p.1 #1 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
So I bought into the hype a while back and tried out the x100vi and I really like how it handles and functions. However, I also got it as a challenge to myself to force myself to use the 35mm focal length (I tend to gravitate towards 50mm and 24mm/28mm ff equivalent) and after almost a year it still feels like I'm just not gelling with it that well. Because of that, I'm looking to switch things up a little, but unsure which path to take.
Here are the options I'm considering:
- get the tele conversion lens (a little awkwardly large, and I miss out on the potential for a future 24mm ff equivalent pov)
- sell and get an x-pro2 + xf 35mm f2 (ovf + keep a smaller lens profile compared to conversion lens, but a little older tech)
- sell and get an x-e5 + xf 35mm f2 (similar enough to x100vi, just no ovf and I can live without leaf shutter and nd filter)
- just suck it up and learn to deal with 35mm equivalent because it's a more "casual" camera anyway.
I'm leaning towards the x-pro2 because I like the optical viewfinder experience sometimes, but not sure if I'd miss the newer features of the x100vi that I'd also find on the x-e5. I also don't really think I need 40mp, but ibis has definitely come in handy for me. I also wasn't sure if the ovf experience with a the 35mm framelines would be too awkwardly small compared to the 23mm framelines. Has anyone been in a similar spot or used these cameras to have an opinion?
p.1 #4 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
You can get an Fujifilm WCL-X70 converter to get wide 26.25mm and the tele converter for 50mm... Actually now I am using RX1R III with similar X100VI Freewell wide/tele converter set up as RX1R III lens is around 32mm so wide 24mm/50mm and X-E5 with Sigma 56mm for the longer reach....
Going with X-E5, you will loose the bigger EVF/OVF...IBIS helps with the lcd shooting for portraits...
X-Pro2 will give you a bigger 35mm in OVF, but an older evf/af tech, no tlit lcd, no ibis and no animal eye af...
p.1 #5 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
Kyle Pope wrote:
What is it about the 35mm range that you aren't gelling with?
Not trying to be condescending at all. I feel the exact way about 24mm. Love 28. Love 35. Can't stand 24.
I think I'm just struggling to pre-visualize the focal length compared to 50/24. maybe that's not a bad thing, but thought I might try something else to see if it makes a difference to me.
p.1 #6 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
planethex wrote:
So I bought into the hype a while back and tried out the x100vi and I really like how it handles and functions. However, I also got it as a challenge to myself to force myself to use the 35mm focal length (I tend to gravitate towards 50mm and 24mm/28mm ff equivalent) and after almost a year it still feels like I'm just not gelling with it that well. Because of that, I'm looking to switch things up a little, but unsure which path to take.
Here are the options I'm considering:
- get the tele conversion lens (a little awkwardly large, and I miss out on the potential for a future 24mm ff equivalent pov)
- sell and get an x-pro2 + xf 35mm f2 (ovf + keep a smaller lens profile compared to conversion lens, but a little older tech)
- sell and get an x-e5 + xf 35mm f2 (similar enough to x100vi, just no ovf and I can live without leaf shutter and nd filter)
- just suck it up and learn to deal with 35mm equivalent because it's a more "casual" camera anyway.
I'm leaning towards the x-pro2 because I like the optical viewfinder experience sometimes, but not sure if I'd miss the newer features of the x100vi that I'd also find on the x-e5. I also don't really think I need 40mp, but ibis has definitely come in handy for me. I also wasn't sure if the ovf experience with a the 35mm framelines would be too awkwardly small compared to the 23mm framelines. Has anyone been in a similar spot or used these cameras to have an opinion?...Show more →
There’s a degree of romance about the XPro2, and it was a remarkable concept when the camera came out. I shot with one for a long time and liked it a great deal. But I certainly can’t see going back to it now, especially since EVF displays are now quite good. (I moved to the XT5 and I would not move back to a 40 MP XPro equivalent at this point.)
The XE5, even at is inflated price, is likely to be the closest to the experience you were looking for with the X100vi.
Of course, if you would consider the 24MP XPro2, that suggests that you don’t feel a strong need for 40MP. Perhaps a used XE4 would do just fine?
And… “suck it up” could also be an OK idea since it is, as you say, just a “casual” camera.
p.1 #7 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I too couldn't get on with only one FoV, although the '35mm equiv' is one I use a lot. And converters don't provide much variation.
If you want fully interchangeable lens, and OVF, then tge Xpro2 is the best OVF. I bought mine new and don't see parting with it. Camera will do everything it's good at still, nobody surely is going to do Birds in Flight with it so the 'better'AF 9f newer cameras isn't a problem.
p.1 #9 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
johnvanr wrote:
Same for me. Bought the conversion lenses. Never used them, too much hassle and too large.
Same here.
I ended up buying the X-E5 (I already have a bunch of Fuji lenses) with the intention of selling the X100VI.
But I ended up keeping both - the X100VI is just a more pleasant camera to use - the controls are somehow better for me - so now I switch between the two.
p.1 #10 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
Same here. I have owned three different X100 models, including the X100vi, and sold them all. The 23mm lens is both too wide and not wide enough at the same time. I already had an X-T5 and my favorite 18mm f/2 lens, so I sold the X100vi. The X-T5 combo isn't all that much larger than the X100vi anyway.
p.1 #11 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
And this is why the RF100 exists…wide when you need it, crop-able when you don’t.
kenbennett wrote:
Same here. I have owned three different X100 models, including the X100vi, and sold them all. The 23mm lens is both too wide and not wide enough at the same time. I already had an X-T5 and my favorite 18mm f/2 lens, so I sold the X100vi. The X-T5 combo isn't all that much larger than the X100vi anyway.
p.1 #13 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I took a lot of heat when the X100vi came out for suggesting that, while it is a compelling camera, that its use case was relatively limited and that most users would probably be better served by a small ILC camera instead.
Looks like more folks are coming around to that idea after using the X100vi. for a while.
There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with the concept or execution of the X100vi. It is more about it being a mismatch to the needs/expectations of most photographers. (It is a great option if you truly want to shoot only the “35mm” AOV-equivalent view, or perhaps as a second/alternative camera to your ILC.)
I expect that a lot of people who rushed to buy the GFX100RF are going to discover something similar as they use it over the next year. There was lot of hype about the camera when it came out, and it does well the thing that it does… but it is, again, a mismatch with the needs of most photographers and its use case is limited.
p.1 #14 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I have the same response to the 35mm FOV, despite having been exposed to it for decades. I have 28mm or 50mm vision, and that's all she wrote. 28 is my bacon. But still, I bought the hype on the X100V, figuring how difficult could it be to shoot such a well-regarded FOV? Turned out to be a lot harder than I thought.
So I bought an X-Pro3, the Fujicrons and the first 23mm f1.4. Nirvana? Not quite. I hate the 24mm (16mm APS) FOV, to me it looks artificial. I got on well with the 35/f2, and the 50 is optically excellent and functionally "usable". So I bought the 18/2 just to see. It was "OK". The build quality was passable, the FOV was perfect, but I found the optical quality to be "meh", especially in the corners. So I got the 18/1.4. While it is better than the 18/2 it feels like I welded a tank to my lens mount. No thank you.
I still had the X100V though, so I took a risk and bought the two Fuji converters. Well. They didn't just convert the lens, they converted ME - to the point that I dug a little deeper into my LOC and got an X100VI. The converters on that camera do an excellent impression of Maria Callas in her prime, singing Madame Butterfly. Exquisite! The X100V and the X-Pro3 and lenses are now keeping each other company in the closet.
Here are my impressions after a couple of weeks:
- Both converters are sharp into the corners (especially by f4) while the two primes smear fine detail in the corners. The 1.4 doesn't smear as much, but still....
- The converters have better micro contrast than the primes.
- I love their size - especially the WCL. With it in place, to me the camera feels complete. And the TCL? I have a weight limit of 300g for a lens, and the TCL comes in well short of that, at under 200g. It's a pleasure to use.
Both converters are crackers IMO, and have found a home in my much lighter bag.
It should be obvious that I'm a hobbyist, not a pro, and that I shoot way more street than architecture, sports or BIF.
This opinion may be an outlier, but it's an honest one.
p.1 #16 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
gdanmitchell wrote:
I took a lot of heat when the X100vi came out fo r suggesting that, while it is a compelling camera, that its use case was relatively limited and that most users would probably be better served by a small ILC camera instead.
Looks like more folks are coming around to that idea after using the X100vi. for a while.
There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with the concept or execution of the X100vi. It is more about it being a mismatch to the needs/expectations of most photographers. (It is a great option if you truly want to shoot only the “35mm” AOV view, or perhaps as a second. camera to our ILC.)
I expect that a lot of people who rushed to buy the GFX100RF are going to discover something similar as they use it. There was a whole lot of hype about the camera when it came out, and it does well the thing that it does… but it is, again, a mismatch with the needs of most photographers and its use case is limited.
p.1 #17 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
johnvanr wrote:
To me, it’s not the fixed lens. It’s the focal length of that lens. If it were 28mm equivalent, it would be fine.
Sure. And for someone else it might be 27mm (40mm equivalent), and for someone else 35mm (52mm equivalent) and so on. Unfortunately, perhaps, Fujifilm isn't going to make fixed lens cameras in each of our favorite focal lengths. That's why something like the XE5 (or, even better, an upgraded future version that moves more in the direction of the XPro line) is going to be a better choice for a lot of people.
Again, there's a use case for the X100vi, and it is an appealing and very competent camera. It is just that it is ideal for a smaller number of people than many hoped. (I cold see having one as a second body in my case... but I am happy with the 27mm pancake on my XT5, and I'm better off carrying just one body...)
