p.2 #1 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
gdanmitchell wrote:
Sure. And for someone else it might be 27mm (40mm equivalent), and for someone else 35mm (52mm equivalent) and so on. Unfortunately, perhaps, Fujifilm isn't going to make fixed lens cameras in each of our favorite focal lengths. That's why something like the XE5 (or, even better, an upgraded future version that moves more in the direction of the XPro line) is going to be a better choice for a lot of people.
That's what led me (years ago) to buy an X-Pro2 . . . having the flexibility of adding lenses if I wanted to. Still have it (and only the 35mm f/1.4 lens).
p.2 #2 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
pjheller wrote:
That's what led me (years ago) to buy an X-Pro2 . . . having the flexibility of adding lenses if I wanted to. Still have it (and only the 35mm f/1.4 lens).
In its time, the XPro2 was a great camera – the best of the XPro models (it still had the “flagship” features).
p.2 #4 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I wish they made an X-E4 II like they did with the X-T30. I can go out and buy an X-T30iii off the shelf new for what the X-E4 goes for used around here.
p.2 #5 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
Does the X100VI control similar to a X-E5? If so, I'd be looking between an X-E5 and an X-T5, honestly. The X-E5 looks cool and all that, and it's pretty low profile, but sometimes I do miss added controls.
p.2 #6 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
gdanmitchell wrote:
In its time, the XPro2 was a great camera – the best of the XPro models (it still had the “flagship” features).
gaopa wrote:
Agree, Dan, but Fuji technology has moved on.
That is exactly my feeling about the XPro line. I loved my XPro2 when I got it and it served me well. It was a brilliant solution to a problem (or at least. perceived problem) earlier in the evolution of EVF displays, and it was originally intended to the the Fujifilm APS-C flagship camera.
But the market has essentially completed a wholesale transition to EVF-only mirrorless cameras now, and EVF displays no longer seem like a deficient compromise. Overall, I’d argue that their pluses outweighs those of optical viewfinders and that their minuses have mostly been resolved.
That’s certainly been my experience with the XT5. I loved the XPro, but if a new XPro come out today (I’m very much NOT expecting that to happen) I would prefer to keep my XT5.
p.2 #7 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I quite like the WCL with the x100vi. But I'm not expecting insane resolution from the shots, decent enough and a bit more artsy.
I've only got tighter lenses for the x-e5 - 35/1.4 and 56/1.2.
X100VI is a bit nicer of a camera imho. Tilt screen is higher quality, optical viewfinder, weather sealed. Better positioned controls. Just that lag when you get into the system settings and I think it's exercising the optical viewfinder.
I kind of go back and forth on both of them though (and whether or not to keep them). I feel like they should stop increasing the resolution now and spend a lot more time on the quality of the compact lenses, colours, reliability, feel etc. Sometimes I prefer the look of the x-e3 to the x-e5, but it doesn't have a tilting screen at all, no ibis and the autofocus isn't as good.
And I'm starting to have to tweak the colours more in post, not just the usual settings but the actual colours.
The recipes are so confusing, half the time it changes a million other settings. Just make it simple. Either it's a control/setting profile or it's a color profile - and how about fuji provide their own rather than just the bases.
I wanna see a frontier mode that actually looks the part, and more dynamic. Frontier scanner with kodak film and way less resolution. Spend millions and millions and millions on making it amazing. I don't see another fuji in my future without a much closer look to actual film or the best compact lenses the world has ever seen.
p.2 #8 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I am with the OP and the main reason I never jumped on the X100V bandwagon is the fixed 35 FoV lens -- for myself, they're never quite wide enough nor quite long enough in my style of shooting. Best answer is to get an XE5 and whatever focals AND APERTURES you prefer, done.
p.2 #9 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
Jack Flesher wrote:
I am with the OP and the main reason I never jumped on the X100V bandwagon is the fixed 35 FoV lens -- for myself, they're never quite wide enough nor quite long enough in my style of shooting. Best answer is to get an XE5 and whatever focals AND APERTURES you prefer, done.
Or an XT5. (You know I had to say that, right, Jack? ;-)
p.2 #11 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
Jack Flesher wrote:
Of course And used, the XT5 is a better buy right now by far. But it is a wee bit bigger than the XE5 if the OP wants the XT form factor.
It definitely is a bit bigger, though the XT isn’t exactly big.
Every so often I am tempted by the idea of getting the X100vi to complement my XT5 — a second body with its 23mm lens, while the XT could get whatever I want/need to put on it. The X100vi would be perfect for my “always with me” camera, which is the XT with the 27mm f/2.8.
I get close to falling for it… and then I look at the XT5 with pancake and feel like it isn’t worth it in my situation.
p.2 #12 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
Yogifi wrote:
The recipes are so confusing, half the time it changes a million other settings. Just make it simple. Either it's a control/setting profile or it's a color profile - and how about fuji provide their own rather than just the bases.
The Fuji software team COMPLETELY BROKE recipes somewhere between the X100V and X100VI (and all of the other new cameras). The C1, C2 etc settings are now functionally useless for people who like to bounce between recipes often.
Not being able to set which settings stick to a recipe and which are global (and CRUCIAL things like aspect ratio) mean that you have to keep extreme mental tabs on what all you've changed on each recipe, often overlooking something in the background. This change also screwed up being able to tie WB to a specific recipe.
This has been discussed at length, even on the Fuji Rumors site, and I have to think they've heard the frustrations. It's almost like they shouldn't shoehorn C settings onto their cameras that have the more retro physical design language and instead reserve it for the PASM models.
For me, Fuji went from a brand that was legitimately fun to use to one where it's a slog through annoyances at every turn. Luckily there are better options.
p.2 #13 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
RoamingScott said: "For me, Fuji went from a brand that was legitimately fun to use to one where it's a slog through annoyances at every turn. Luckily there are better options."
Are you considering another camera brand? If so, what do you think is best?
p.2 #14 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
No brand is “best.”
They are all (including Fujifilm) quite good these days, with different pluses and minuses that line line up better or worse for an individual photographer’s preferences.
Photographers of 20-30 years ago would not have dreamed of the capabilities and power we have in our camera systems these days.
p.2 #16 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
I've owned a number of x100's and always had issues with the 23mm/35mm lens focal length. I ended up using the TCL/WCL way too often with the x100VI, so I sold it. I now have the X-E5 and like it's ability to changes lenses. I think it's still best to have a pancake lens like the 23mm f/2.8 or 27mm f/2.8 to use when you need the most compact carry. Then add the 35mm f/2 for when you want something a little longer. After the f/2 primes or Viltrox air lenses, you can always mount one of the Sigma zooms. You just have a lot of options with this body.
p.2 #17 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
gdanmitchell wrote:
No brand is “best.”
They are all (including Fujifilm) quite good these days, with different pluses and minuses that line line up better or worse for an individual photographer’s preferences.
Photographers of 20-30 years ago would not have dreamed of the capabilities and power we have in our camera systems these days.
Yet many things I wanted 30 years ago still don't exist. A lot of the crap they added is more of a PITA than it is worth.
p.2 #19 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
AZ Photo wrote:
Same here.
I ended up buying the X-E5 (I already have a bunch of Fuji lenses) with the intention of selling the X100VI.
But I ended up keeping both - the X100VI is just a more pleasant camera to use - the controls are somehow better for me - so now I switch between the two.
I always felt that most people who planned to rely on the conversion lenses would be better off just getting and ILC and good, small lenses that matched their focal length preferences. I suppose the conversion lenses make sense if you don't use other focal lengths much and they act as a sort of emergency option, when you add them you lose the small lens benefits of the fixed lens camera... and there are some really small interchangeable lens options.
Yeah, I know... the smallest pancakes are only f/2.8 lenses instead of f/2. There are always trade-offs. For my part, that difference doesn't seem huge to me, and I do fine with urban night street photography using f/2.8 primes.
I can sort of see having the X100vi and an interchangeable lens camera if you are the sort of photographer who often is fine with a single focal length, but who also wants more flexibility at times... and you are the sort who might go out with two camels sometimes — X100vi with the 23mm lens and XE5/XT5 with other lenses or any sort.
p.2 #20 · love the x100vi, but can't get on with 35mm equivalent. where to go?
X100vi, also Gfx100rf, rx1riii reason of existence the small, built in lenses, not replaceable with any ILCE setup. X100vi has faster and sharper lens than x-e5 23mm kit lens.
For tighter fov, I'd consider the adapter, however it's the better option if 35mm still your main focal length. Otherwise x-e5 is the obvious alternative, question which lens, what's tge expectation. 33 1.4 is quite large for that camera, but seems manageable paired with kit pancake as daily carry setup. If you want completely go for 50mm, Viltrox 35 1.7 is a good budget lens, main disadvantage the lack of aperture ring. 35 1.4 has more separation and character but not a sharp lens, AF is slow. Xf 35 f2 is the choice if you want aperture ring and better AF and sharpness than 35 1.4, still maintain the compact size.
Other options: A7cii + Viltrox air 50, Sigma bf/s9 with sigma 45 2.8, canon m6ii 32 1.4.
And used, the XT5 is a better buy right now by far. But it is a wee bit bigger than the XE5 if the OP wants the XT form factor.