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p.3 #1 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Word! I second this!

Thypochs very aggressive pricing for 369$ makes their lenses for non-m mount tempting

EDIT: got both : 28 and 35 with the 50 coming from the FM board - let’s see what these lenses are capable of : taking them to Germany on haloweeen

GAS. Is a real issue….



nineblade wrote:
Crud... at the price it's really tempting.

Seish, do I really need a:
- 24 f/1.4 Sony G
- 24 f/1.8 Nikon S
- 24 f/2 Sigma Contemporary
- 28 f/1.4 Thypoch
- 35 f/2 Voigtlander
- 35 f/1.8 Nikon S
- 35 f/1.4 Sony G
- 40 f/2 Nikon
- 40 f/2 TT Artisan
- 50 f/2 Voitlander
- 50 f/1.8 Nikon S

This is really getting out of hand.



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Oct 22, 2025 at 10:33 PM
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p.3 #2 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


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Oct 22, 2025 at 10:34 PM
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p.3 #3 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I would go with the E-mount option as the Cine Version for E mount has been tested here on FM to be adjusted to consider for the thicker filter stack.
Otherwise, the M mount gives you the option to use the Techart Adapter for AF. Saw some pictures here on the 50 Simera Review page without any detriments to IQ - both very interesting options!

alexvinch wrote:
I’m a new ZF user and will be going manual-lenses-only route. My scene is a street, day-to-day family, a tiny bit of a city landscape.

I would love to hear your opinion on which mount to go with Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 (and then expanding with voigtlanders and thypochs).
I’m not considering native Z mount for simera as I want to use manual focus confirmation, so my choice is between the E and M mounts.

I was able to to try both for a few days only and they seem to perform very similarly (via Megadap ETZ and Funmount MTZ), except I caught
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Oct 22, 2025 at 10:38 PM
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p.3 #4 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Fortunately the discount promotion has also arrived here.
The reason I haven't ordered yet is that so far only the black version of the Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Z is listed at a discount by German retailers.
The silver version is still at the old price, but I would prefer that one.
So I'll check back over the next few days to see if any of the retailers adjust the price of the silver version, otherwise I'll order the black version.

I'm not a fan of the chrome ring on the black version, but apart from that, the Thypoch 28/1.4 Z is supposed to form a team of two, a MF go to duo with my CZJ 58/2 Biotar Pre-Set in the long run, and the latter is classic Biotar silver.



Oct 23, 2025 at 07:19 AM
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p.3 #5 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Already taken care of, quick phone call with my local dealer.
Ordered the silver version at the discounted price, but it will probably take a few days.



Oct 23, 2025 at 07:45 AM
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p.3 #6 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


ISO1600 wrote:
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Personally, I think the focus confirm on ZF with manual glass is overblown. There's not enough customizable buttons to make it truly smooth in operation. Half the time, the focus picks a subject that I wouldn't have. I guess I could just use 3D-tracking, right? Turn off face/animal detect.
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How about turn it all off? I got a manual 28mm because I just want to set it at f/8 or f/11 for daylight shots and set hyperlocal distance. You just mind the minimum distance when shooting and press the button. A good $370(!) 28mm for this purpose makes sense.

You get a bit more speed and versatility with the chipped CV28z/1.5, for dark times where depth gets skinny and you need focus aids - it's a good indoor event/night lens. If that's your MO, then it is "better", but if quick daylight shots are your thing, this one covers it for less than 1/2 the cost (and you can do indoor, just a little slower).

If you're looking for a 28mm for daylight shooting using zone focussing, this looks good. (You might even dream about all those slower, smaller, light, M-mount 28s coming in Z mount, but, alack, they don't exist.)



Oct 23, 2025 at 10:50 AM
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p.3 #7 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


There is some conflation between focus conf and subject detect happening in ISO's post.

I personally don't use subject detect with MF, I just throw the box on the thing I'm focusing on.



Oct 23, 2025 at 11:07 AM
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p.3 #8 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Waiting for Z mount with chip.

Anyway, I see Adorama charges for shipping fee which is wired.
They charge shipping for discount items



Oct 23, 2025 at 03:45 PM
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p.3 #9 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


ISO1600 wrote:
I would buy whichever mount you either A) have another camera in, or B) have more lenses in. I hate to have an adapter that lives on one lens and that's it, especially when they are $100+ adapters.


I am starting fresh. Just sold all my Fujifilm gear and got a ZF with a 40mm kit. I did try out Voigtlander 50mm f2 APO for Z mount and absolutely loved it. Then I got to try the Simera 28mm for E and M mount, and 35mm for Z mount. I really really loved the rendering, but lack of contact on Z mount made it a no-go for me.

ISO1600 wrote:
Personally, I think the focus confirm on ZF with manual glass is overblown. There's not enough customizable buttons to make it truly smooth in operation. Half the time, the focus picks a subject that I wouldn't have. I guess I could just use 3D-tracking, right? Turn off face/animal detect.


So I will say that focus confirmation (just the red -> green box) with the small size works perfect for me. I do turn on face detection when I'm shooting a single person in a frame as I can keep the eye in focus much easier and don't need to move the focus box around. Try to put it on some of the buttons for quick access (I use "zoom out").
After just a week of shooting manual I actually feel fast enough to be able to catch my 4 year old. It's pretty accurate too, I also know that on my specific unit, I need to be catching the green box from a shorter distance (so if I am turning the focus ring from "close" to "far" I need to stop as soon as green box is blinking, otherwise I will overshoot).


I actually got both E and M mount and will shoot them side by side for comparison with adapters. If anyone is interested I'm happy to share some of the results here, but it looks like M mount is going to have more contrast and a tad sharper corners.



Oct 23, 2025 at 04:57 PM
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p.3 #10 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Yes please share!
Nikon will probably be better than me testing the Sony e mounts on Sony - but hoping that I won’t have to complain.

To the earlier comment : if I love love love the IQ that a lense provides; I’m happy to use an old camera : focusing isn’t that hard

Exciting to see more results here from the Simeras!

Cheers
Dan

alexvinch wrote:
I am starting fresh. Just sold all my Fujifilm gear and got a ZF with a 40mm kit. I did try out Voigtlander 50mm f2 APO for Z mount and absolutely loved it. Then I got to try the Simera 28mm for E and M mount, and 35mm for Z mount. I really really loved the rendering, but lack of contact on Z mount made it a no-go for me.

So I will say that focus confirmation (just the red -> green box) with the small size works perfect for me. I do turn on face detection when I'm shooting
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p.3 #11 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I've been very curious about using M glass with a Techart Pro, but the M is still twice as much as the Z, adding the Techart pushes the combo up to $1000.


Oct 24, 2025 at 01:29 PM
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p.3 #12 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Just buy the complete Simera f/1.4 prime series, then it pays off.

Joking aside, the TechartPro TZM-02 AF M to Z alone costs almost €100 more here than I paid for the silver version of the Simera 28/1.4 Z.
At the current price, I'm happy to take it as a non-CPU lens, especially since the Z version has fewer ergonomic issues than the shorter and more compact M version.
The position of the focus ring on the Z-mount version is significantly better.
The M-version has a very narrow focus ring, which is also extremely close to the camera mount.

With the discount promotion and prices in the range of $369, there is nothing comparable in 28mm f/1.4.
If Thypoch ever releases a chipped version and then sells them for such prices, I can still switch.
At the current price, I could no longer ignore it, especially since it fills one of the few gaps in my lens portfolio: a really fast, moderate wide angle with pleasing rendering/bokeh, without having to break the bank + in dimensions comparable to a 35/2 Apo Lanthar Z.
It will be very nice for environmental portraits of family and friends, conscious and unhurried photography, with a rendering profile suitable for the purpose.



Oct 24, 2025 at 02:57 PM
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p.3 #13 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Yes the short focus ring so thin and close to the camera body which is not ideal at all
BUT dont neglect the focus tab /
the focus throw is so short that the tab should cover the whole range with your index finger.

Autofocus on wide angle is not as important, even with the fast aperature

The short focus throw will make the AF interesting to use; especially considering the absolutely minimal focus spacing at close focusing distance.
Will try the 50 Simera with the first version Techart Adapter for MF (on Sony)

Not sure about nikon, but for sony im using the first version Techart adapter, which I got from FM for a bargain - works well - of course not as fast as the new Techart adapter, but has much less parts that can malfunction - as techart has notoriously no customer service.

The new Techart has 4 small motors vs. the 1 large motor on the older version. Its bulkier but cheap. Doesnt extend lower than my camera body so mounting on Tripod is no issue.

I feel funny (like an outsider) posting on the Nikon Sub-forum : but the Simera threads are so spread out on FM!

Coming from using Cosina optics, Ill see if I dig the warm color cast of the Simeras or if I will adjust the White balance on all pics - time will tell…



Oct 24, 2025 at 04:01 PM
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p.3 #14 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


RoamingScott wrote:
I've been very curious about using M glass with a Techart Pro, but the M is still twice as much as the Z, adding the Techart pushes the combo up to $1000.


I bought the Techart Pro. Used it for 2 days. Returned it without any hesitation.
It's a very cool concept, for sure, but this is what it came down to for me:
- it's not fast enough to do the actual tracking of a moving person reliably (and not at all if the person is a kid!)
- for shooting still objects, it works perfectly fine, but still misses some times and hunts in poor contrast conditions
- manual focus confirmation on a Simera via MTZ adapter + ZF is reliable enough, where if I see a green box, I can press the button and I'll get my shot in focus

So, if I'm trying to catch something (or someone) that moves fast, I'm actually better off not hoping for the techart to catch it as it will miss more often than not. I've talked myself into taking a bit of time to get used to the manual focus and I by now (about 2 weeks) I'm doing a much better job with my hands than the adapter.
For shooting still objects — it's not even a question anymore, focusing manually I can get exactly what I want in focus quickly and reliably instead of holding my breath and needing to review every shot cuz it could've shifted focus last moment.

YMMV, but I think techart adapter needs more finesse before it's actually useful to justify $400 price tag.



Oct 24, 2025 at 09:09 PM
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p.3 #15 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Surprisingly, the Simeras produce fine blues while not neglecting the warmer tones of oranges, ochres and other red-influenced hues. I may have had to use a cooler WB setting just a few times, but mostly on the Kolari-shaved a7rII. More often, a warming filter is needed with them.

But I am pretty hard to please with cool lenses, being ex-Voigtlander too. Now, I don't enjoy them because the cool overlay seems to remain in some lesser form after warming the image. Obviously I am not one of those who believes you can fix any color issues with computer codes. I think it is a little more involved than that, once you know what you want rather than an approximation, maybe that is fine as a starting point.

Zeiss use cool casts in many lens ranges, so they are easy to decide if they are for you. Cosina is influenced by them, but is also close to Leica M sensibilities, in the older CV ones (mid-last decade) more so than the newest.

The purest colors in my cameras come from the original a7r, I'll post one OOC and final below, from the 28mm. That's AWB on that camera in #1, then after warming in Photoshop, #2. And a 50mm portrait, midday light, hard to see without sunglasses. Just reduced exposure, and basic moves.

Warmer tones in the Simeras come out in skin tones in suitable light, and in faces particularly, so it will depend on what you shoot as well as your light. Looking across a lot for mine, maybe 1000 finals would be book-ready, color is close to being 'just right' or it can be attained pretty quickly.

And very important, the files are very responsive in post-processing - you get what you ask for, and that is not always true of other lenses. Color is lovely, IMO, but it's so personal we know.

The 50mm - we'll see what you think. I call it the improved Summilux! Why? Very solid base design in the Summilux, slight revision of elements shape and sequencing, 14 aperture blades to remove polygons in bokeh balls; the introduction of their very good HRI glass in 3 of 8 elements; a balanced choice of glass, just one asph and just one ED; very light, great presence and really surprising IQ stopped down. The highlight handling is special, comes from the glass. A keeper for me, this one.




And let me point to the 3D that just flows out form each image; no leading lines here..






..it's just engieering to well-developed image-based goals. see drawing of distant horizon.






light handling Simera 50/1.4




Oct 25, 2025 at 01:28 AM
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p.3 #16 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I know the title of this thread is for the 28 and in the Nikon sub-forum
But still, FYI
The Simera 50 came today, what a stellar performing lens!
Thanks Thypoch for curing my GAS!
The 28 and 35 are expected to arrive Moonday

Manual focusing with this 50 is eazy! Plane of focus is very wide unless snapping near MFD.
Doesnt even make me want to attach the Techart.
Mostly impressed by the deep reds . I cannot notice any IQ issues using this M-mount on sony - at all!

Posted pics on the Simera 50 thread, half way down the page
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1878983/25





Simera 50 SOOC

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/400s    500 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Simera 50 STRAIGHT OUT OF CAMERA!!!

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/640s    400 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Simera 50

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/6400s    640 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Simera 50: BW conversion with C1 “BW punch” preset

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/6400s    640 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Simera 50

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/100s    500 ISO    +0.3 EV  







Simera 50 with strongest backlight possible midday Florida sun

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/125s    500 ISO    +0.3 EV  



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Oct 25, 2025 at 04:47 PM
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p.3 #17 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


My Thypoch 28 arrived today. It's heavy, but quite compact for a 1.4. The aperture ring is different from other manuals. It's quite stiff, and has a soft 'click'. So far so good.


Oct 27, 2025 at 04:28 PM
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p.3 #18 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Just created a thread in the Sony sub forum for all simera lenses, fyi
Got the 35 today and the 28
But only tested the 35 - stellar performance on thick
Sony sensor glass
Can’t detect any field curvature, but then again : I’m just enjoying overall rendering

I know this is the Nikon sub group, just wanted to let you know

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1920732/0#16916937

Cheers
Dan

Simera 35 pics attached (first impressions)





Simera 35 wide open - tulsi flower up close at MFD

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/2500s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







Bokehtastic Bougonvillea !

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/6400s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  







Let that mailbox POP - approx 1m away

  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    ---- lens    1/80s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 27, 2025 at 06:15 PM
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p.3 #19 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


A good scientific example of what to expect from a Z version of the lens as well, given Thypoch made no effort to optimize the lens for anything but M.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1880360/16#16917865



Oct 29, 2025 at 08:33 AM
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p.3 #20 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I think it was to be expected and clear that there would also be losses with the Z-mount and that Thypoch hadn't adapted/optimized it for every single, different filter stack.
However, there is also no question that the thinner filter stack of Nikon Z, compared to Sony, is much better suited for adapting M-mount lenses than is the case with Sony.
Therefore, I'm not too worried about it; apart from a native M-mount sensor or a Kolari mod, Nikon Z-mount bodies seem to be the best solution for adapting M-mount optimized lenses.
It would be different if I were a Sony E-mount user.

As was to be expected we see the biggest differences with the wider lenses and at wider apertures and a lot less with the lenses stopped down, as the widened depth of field can cover the field curvature caused by the thicker filter stack to some degree. We also see that there is a big difference between the performance on a stock Sony A7III and a stock Nikon Z6 – with the latter being a much better choice for adapting M-mount lenses. While the lenses don’t perform just as good as on a Leica M10 or a camera with Kolari UT...Show more

So I have little doubt that the Thypoch lens will work much better with my Z6/Z8 than it will with a Sony E-mount body.
What wories me more is that my dealer had to order the lens—the silver version, to be precise—and based on their experience with Thypoch, it will take at least a month.

Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/different-filter-stacks-and-what-they-mean-for-us-sony-e-nikon-z-leica-m-kolari-ut/


When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses.
I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself.
And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close.
And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras.
When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari
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Here, as an example, is the comment on one of the M-mount lenses tested there, the VM 21/1.4 Nokton.
So there's a huge performance difference, depending on the M-mount lens, between a Nikon Z6 and a Sony A7III.
Where the Z6 comes close to the Sony A7rII with the Kolari UT Mod, the Sony A7III falls apart.
This is therefore a topic that is much more serious for Sony users.

The Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 Nokton is a very complex modern design and on the Leica M10 it shows an amazing performance from f/1.4.
It looks slightly worse on the Sony A7rII UT with the Nikon Z6 following closely behind. On the Sony A7III with its stock sensor it is a complete loss at f/1.4 by comparison: already the midframe looks just awful. Stopped down to f/8.0 it still doesn’t look as good on the A7III as it does on the other cameras.

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