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p.4 #1 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


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I think it was to be expected and clear that there would also be losses with the Z-mount and that Thypoch hadn't adapted it for every single, different filter stack.


I have to take a little umbrage with this. Voigtlander has done a FANTASTIC job adapting every lens they produce to optimize for each mount. I certainly didn't expect Thypoch to sling slop here when they have big competition in their space from CV.

Thypoch is charging Voigtlander prices at retail and putting in none of the work. They are lazily throwing their M design onto every mount they can, all while not even chipping the lenses to maximize functionality.



Oct 29, 2025 at 09:55 AM
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p.4 #2 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I would generally agree, but ultimately that's part of the purchasing decision.
Even though there are no further details, it was clear to me personally that Thypoch would most likely not optimize the lenses for every filter stack, but simply adapt them to a suitable housing with a suitable mount.

These are things I can overlook because of the massive discount.
Chipped is nice to have, but it has never been a deal breaker for me if the rendering is convincing, and I don't expect any significant performance drops with the Z-bodies either.
In Phillipreeve's test, Z6 + fast M-mount lenses looks good to very good across the board, especially in the center and mid-range.
If anything, it's the corners that fall slightly short compared to the Sony with Kolari UT mod, something that won't be the strength of the Thypoch 28/1.4 anyway.

Logically, the path Cosina is taking with Voigtländer lenses is clearly the better one—licensed, chipped, and optimized—but that's why a CV 28mm f/1.5 Z-mount currently costs €700 more than my Thypoch 28/1.4.

Given the introductory prices and the claim that the manufacturer presents itself as a producer of high-quality optics, both mechanically and optically, this cannot really be the standard.
One should definitely be able to expect more, chipped and ideally optimized.
However, at the current price, I can turn a blind eye to this, because even unchipped and non-optimized for the respective filter stack, it remains a very high-quality 28mm f/1.4 for the money, with a rendering style that stands out.
Especially since the Z-mount works much better with M-mount lenses and similar performance slumps as with Sony's thicker filter stack are not to be expected.

The massive discounts on the Simera series, especially the Z, RF, E and X-mount versions should also be a clear indicator that the market does not accept the introductory prices under these conditions, despite a successful influencer campaign and positive reviews and rightly expects more.
If Thypoch wants to establish itself in the niche targeted at launch beyond the M-mount; it will have to improve in this area, otherwise demand will only come through extreme discounts.



Oct 29, 2025 at 10:22 AM
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p.4 #3 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


This^. I ordered a simera 50 (baby lux) for my z8 . Got it fully realizing what's being raised here.
But.... the image comparisons with the Lux shocked me. I got the lens for $455 brand new. The lens renders beautifully and is insane value for money. I'm willing to live with the fact they dont optimize it for the mount's sensor stack thickness and the lack of a chip. Would have certainly been nice but given the price I am fine with it.

Also thinking about picking up the 28/1.4 simera z version.



Oct 29, 2025 at 01:40 PM
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p.4 #4 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


The price of something means little to me, and on the flip side, I'm more than willing to pay for quality. I don't let a company off the hook because of a black friday price.


Oct 29, 2025 at 01:40 PM
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p.4 #5 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Its great to have choices. Buy a Voigtlander and move on.
I happen to have Voigtlanders too and enjoy them. Although it took me 3 tries to land a centered copy of the Voigt 40/1.2. For the price, you could argue "one should definitely be able to expect more"



Oct 29, 2025 at 02:29 PM
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p.4 #6 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I've been experimenting with my new copy of the Simera 28/1.4 in Z mount. For US$369, I'm keeping it. If it had cost US$1000 I wouldn't want it. It's a time-killer until the hoped-for VZ 28 Apo.


Oct 29, 2025 at 05:25 PM
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p.4 #7 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


RoamingScott wrote:
The price of something means little to me, and on the flip side, I'm more than willing to pay for quality. I don't let a company off the hook because of a black friday price.


This doesn't really have anything to do with letting it go.
If there were several alternatives that would be better suited to my needs and preferences, then maybe.

The essential criterion for me with any lens is finding the aesthetically pleasing rendering that best suits my intended use.
I subordinate everything to that; whether it's chipped or unchipped, or whether there are some marginal corner sharpness losses is a completely secondary consideration for me when buying the Thypoch.
I'm looking for a fast, moderately wide-angle lens, primarily for environmental portraits during family and friends activities, with a very harmonious, cinematic rendering and plenty of pop in the close-up and mid-range.
From what I've seen, the Thypoch comes closest in that focal range and speed category at least within my price range.
A rendering style that inspires and is already generating creative ideas for me, even before it arrives.

That's what matters most to me!
Is it the right tool to generate the look I envision for the intended application, and does it complement my existing palette, which already includes many highly corrected and extremely high-resolution lenses, by offering a different approach.
Especially since the factor of compactness and reduction also plays a role.
I have enough bulky lenses among my existing ones; solutions like an adapted Nikon AF-S 28/1.4 E with FTZ or an Otus 28/1.4 with FTZ are absolutely out of the question, not least for cost reasons.

Sure, I could afford a Voigtländer Nokton 28mm f/1.5 Z, but it doesn't meet my needs to the same extent, and neither licensing, chipping, nor filter stack optimization would change that.
I don't see it, like the previous poster, as a temporary solution for a Z-mount version of the VM 28/2 Apo Lanthar.
So if I were concerned with optical perfection, the highest possible resolution and maximum sharpness consistency right to the corners, then I wouldn't be interested in the Thypoch.
If I want that look, if I want to photograph things that benefit from it, then I have my 35mm Apo Lanthar.

The current price makes it easier to forgo convenience features like chipped, but the decisive criterion for me is the rendering, which I find very appealing.
So, you could say I won't let factors like being unchipped and not optimized for Z-mount spoil my enjoyment of this lens, as it seems to fulfill all the essential requirements for me: focal length, speed, rendering style, high-quality mechanical construction, and currently an outstanding price.
To categorically reject this lens on principle, because of ultimately minor details that will rarely affect me in practice with this lens, makes no sense to me, if it otherwise fully meets the criteria that are decisive for me in this special case.
I've been photographing with manual focus lenses without focus confirmation for over 40 years and still do, so this Typoch lens isn't going to keep me up at night because it's unchipped.



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Oct 29, 2025 at 07:03 PM
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p.4 #8 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Do all the 28 1.4 have the infinity lock or can you get it without?

I’d consider a 21, 28 or 50 a those prices as a Christmas present to me lol

Vento wrote:
This doesn't really have anything to do with letting it go.
If there were several alternatives that would be better suited to my needs and preferences, then maybe.

The essential criterion for me with any lens is finding the aesthetically pleasing rendering that best suits my intended use.
I subordinate everything to that; whether it's chipped or unchipped, or whether there are some marginal corner sharpness losses is a completely secondary consideration for me when buying the Thypoch.
I'm looking for a fast, moderately wide-angle lens, primarily for environmental portraits during family and friends activities, with a very harmonious, cinematic rendering and plenty of
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Oct 29, 2025 at 07:25 PM
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p.4 #9 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I have no idea how it is with the other mount versions, especially since this is already the second version for the M-mount, but the Simera Z-mount versions come with a focus adjustment tab, but without Infinity Lock.
As far as I understand, the first version for M-mount had a poorly implemented Infinity Lock solution.
In the second M-mount versions, as well as all other mounts, there is only the focus tab.



Oct 29, 2025 at 07:32 PM
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That’s perfect.

Vento wrote:
I have no idea how it is with the other mount versions, especially since this is already the second version for the M-mount, but the Simera Z-mount versions come with a focus adjustment tab, but without Infinity Lock.
As far as I understand, the first version for M-mount had a poorly implemented Infinity Lock solution.
In the second M-mount versions, as well as all other mounts, there is only the focus tab.




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Picture This! wrote:
Its great to have choices. Buy a Voigtlander and move on.
I happen to have Voigtlanders too and enjoy them. Although it took me 3 tries to land a centered copy of the Voigt 40/1.2. For the price, you could argue "one should definitely be able to expect more"


And we have people saying they had to go through 3 Hasselblad 55v lenses at $3500 a piece to get a "good" copy. The lens lottery (and issues arising from poor shipping practices) has little to do with specific brands.

"Buy a Voigt and move on" is such a lazy response. I don't want a 28mm Voigt. The Nok is disgusting to my eye. I don't want the eventual soulless APO.

I want a properly tuned Thypoch 28mm Simera for Z with chips. Until then, I'll bash them for being a 2nd rate Z lens maker However good their M glass is, or how cheap their sales go holds no weight with the things I want as a Z shooter.



Oct 29, 2025 at 08:02 PM
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p.4 #12 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


RoamingScott wrote:
And we have people saying they had to go through 3 Hasselblad 55v lenses at $3500 a piece to get a "good" copy. The lens lottery (and issues arising from poor shipping practices) has little to do with specific brands.

"Buy a Voigt and move on" is such a lazy response. I don't want a 28mm Voigt. The Nok is disgusting to my eye. I don't want the eventual soulless APO.

I want a properly tuned Thypoch 28mm Simera for Z with chips. Until then, I'll bash them for being a 2nd rate Z lens maker However good their M glass
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People going through multiple $$$$ hassy lenses to find a good copy, doesn't make it right. Not sure what your point is. Or maybe there wasn't one

I purchased the Thypoch because I value its rendering style and the fact that it isn't chipped or that its not optimized for the nikon sensor stack is not a concern to me. I purchased it as a "character" lens and it absolutely fulfills that role. Price / performance is subjective. The lens paints ~ like a summuilux and the fact that it can be had for < $500 is absolutely amazing. Have you even tried the lens ? Guess not and I couldn't care less about someone bashing Thypoch without any first hand experience with the product.





Oct 29, 2025 at 09:11 PM
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p.4 #13 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I agree with Scott - in a perfect world we'd know that a v2 is coming soon and I'd suggest waiting for that.....and hopefully they fix the ridiculous cap issue in the process.

With that said, can't agree with you Scott re: price. There's a price for everything and this lens draws beautifully for the price-point. I can live with the shortcomings knowing that it optically competes with the 1.4E at a fraction of the size and huge fraction of the price. I am not upset about the lack of chip because I bought it knowingly......but the cap issue is what REALLY irritates me lol.



Oct 30, 2025 at 02:21 AM
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p.4 #14 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Idk about everyone here but I’m not in love with Voigtlander caps. Never tried thypoch but I’ve had 4 Voigtlander, own 2 now, and the caps pop off way too easily. Take camera out of bag and ….no cap, it popped off and is in the bag.

urbanwild wrote:
I agree with Scott - in a perfect world we'd know that a v2 is coming soon and I'd suggest waiting for that.....and hopefully they fix the ridiculous cap issue in the process.

With that said, can't agree with you Scott re: price. There's a price for everything and this lens draws beautifully for the price-point. I can live with the shortcomings knowing that it optically competes with the 1.4E at a fraction of the size and huge fraction of the price. I am not upset about the lack of chip because I bought it knowingly......but the cap issue is
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Oct 30, 2025 at 07:18 AM
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newyork wrote:
Idk about everyone here but I’m not in love with Voigtlander caps. Never tried thypoch but I’ve had 4 Voigtlander, own 2 now, and the caps pop off way too easily. Take camera out of bag and ….no cap, it popped off and is in the bag.



On my Voigtlander lenses, I replaced the front cap with Nikon ones that stay on much better even with the hood attached on my 40mm f/1.2 Nokton.




Oct 30, 2025 at 07:43 AM
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I’m going to look into that asap

jrscls wrote:
On my Voigtlander lenses, I replaced the front cap with Nikon ones that stay on much better even with the hood attached on my 40mm f/1.2 Nokton.





Oct 30, 2025 at 07:48 AM
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p.4 #17 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


Also note that if you’re like me and like having the lens hoods on your Voigtander, the cap size is larger if you want the front cap to attach directly to the hood instead of inside to the lens itself.

I’ve started putting standard Nikon Z back caps on all of my lenses just for consistency sake



Oct 30, 2025 at 07:54 AM
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p.4 #18 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


I have a Thypoch 28mm and the Nikon 28mm 1.4E. On my Z7II, I see differences in overall rendering. I agree with others that the thypoch is a character lens and does it very well. I use both lenses for different reason. The Nikon is big and heavy (with the adapter) but gives me decent AF and eye detection. The thypoch is small and MF and does well when I'm traveling with the 24-120mm as my main lens.


Oct 30, 2025 at 08:43 AM
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p.4 #19 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


jrscls wrote:
On my Voigtlander lenses, I replaced the front cap with Nikon ones that stay on much better even with the hood attached on my 40mm f/1.2 Nokton.



The rear cap on the Thypoch 28 1.4 is miserably loose and comes off even with gentle handling. I tried replacing it with a Nikon rear cap and it wouldn't tighten at all, just stayed loose. I was using the lens with the rectangular hood and push-on front cap. The cap seemed to stay on fine, but the hood didn't securely click into place and would easily rotate loose.



Oct 30, 2025 at 09:01 AM
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p.4 #20 · Thypoch 28mm f/1.4 Lens


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I have to take a little umbrage with this. Voigtlander has done a FANTASTIC job adapting every lens they produce to optimize for each mount. I certainly didn't expect Thypoch to sling slop here when they have big competition in their space from CV.

Thypoch is charging Voigtlander prices at retail and putting in none of the work. They are lazily throwing their M design onto every mount they can, all while not even chipping the lenses to maximize functionality.


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RoamingScott wrote:
The price of something means little to me, and on the flip side, I'm more than willing to pay for quality. I don't let a company off the hook because of a black friday price.


So first you complain that they're charging Voigtlander prices for an inferior product, and then say that it means little to you. Which one is it? The Z-mount Thypoch 28 1.4 is normally priced at $550. The Z-mount Voigtlander 28 1.5 is $900. You're paying 40% less and getting a product with less features and an optical design that isn't adjusted for the Nikon Z sensor stack thickness. How is that "charging Voigtlander prices"?



Oct 30, 2025 at 09:09 AM
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