Thypoch is launching a Black Friday sale starting tomorrow.
I hope it will also be available for the EU.
For that price, it would be a no-brainer, even unchipped.
Are ppl just using focus peaking with the unchipped lenses?
Vento wrote:
Thypoch is launching a Black Friday sale starting tomorrow.
I hope it will also be available for the EU.
For that price, it would be a no-brainer, even unchipped.
I don't know how other users feel about this, but I primarily use magnification with MF lenses, regardless of whether they are chipped or unchipped.
MF subject detection, provided you have a Z body with this feature, also works with non-CPU MF lenses.
What is omitted is focus confirmation via the green frame of the focus box and the RSF/RSF Hold option on Z bodies that have this feature.
I personally rarely use focus peaking with MF lenses; 100%, 200%, and 400% magnification are all I need, plus MF subject detection on the Z8 and, with chipped lenses such as Voigtländer optics, focus confirmation/green frame.
I primarily use focus peaking with AF lenses, but only to immediately recognize when I have accidentally touched the MF ring.
Depending on the lens, this happens occasionally, and then you can immediately see that you have accidentally touched the ring, which would otherwise go unnoticed.
I don’t love focus peaking is why I ask. Is using the magnification super slow? Seems it would be especially if something was moving.
Vento wrote:
I don't know how other users feel about this, but I primarily use magnification with MF lenses, regardless of whether they are chipped or unchipped.
MF subject detection, provided you have a Z body with this feature, also works with non-CPU MF lenses.
What is omitted is focus confirmation via the green frame of the focus box and the RSF/RSF Hold option on Z bodies that have this feature.
I personally rarely use focus peaking with MF lenses; 100%, 200%, and 400% magnification are all I need, plus MF subject detection on the Z8 and, with chipped lenses such as Voigtländer optics, focus confirmation/green frame.
I primarily use focus peaking with AF lenses, but only to immediately recognize when I have accidentally touched the MF ring.
Depending on the lens, this happens occasionally, and then you can immediately see that you have accidentally touched the ring, which would otherwise go unnoticed....Show more →
There is a significant lag in the EVF/LCD when it comes to magnification and the current implementation in Nikon Z bodies.
Personally, I can cope with this, but I don't use my MF lenses in situations where this factor is particularly relevant.
When there is really movement involved, I use my AF lenses.
That doesn't mean I don't take portraits with MF, but only in situations/settings where MF is sufficient.
But of course, it also depends heavily on the focal length, distance and working aperture.
I have a lot of experience with manual focus.
I've had my Canon FD 85/1.2 L for over 40 years now, so I learned the hard way, but at f/1.2, it remains a challenge if the subject isn't reasonably static.
Especially if you can't anticipate, i.e. pre-focus.
As long as the movement/direction of movement is predictable, you can get along very well with MF lenses and pre-focusing.
With the video button mapped to magnify: quick, intuitive. (I don't shoot video with the Zf.)
I haven't found focus peaking to be correct at wider apertures so don't use it.
taildraggin wrote:
With the video button mapped to magnify: quick, intuitive. (I don't shoot video with the Zf.)
I haven't found focus peaking to be correct at wider apertures so don't use it.
This is exactly my workflow too (record button also). It's a pretty good workflow overall, but I agree with Scott with a preference for focus confirmation. I'll look to upgrade to a chipped version if they make one. It's a beautiful lens overall.
Yeah I mapped a button for quick 100% punch-in/out and that's much more accurate than relying on peaking. My ZF might have the most useless peaking on a mirrorless I've used in years lol.
Nor me, this one does over 50% of what I do. Its focal plane performance obviates magnification much of the time, and it is very tolerant of near misses, as are many great MF lenses.
That said, I use magnification a lot, for work that has no second chances (people) It's a very serious imaging tool. The lack of EXIF positions it as a cine-style optic, not a convenience lightweight for the masses.
I’m a new ZF user and will be going manual-lenses-only route. My scene is a street, day-to-day family, a tiny bit of a city landscape.
I would love to hear your opinion on which mount to go with Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 (and then expanding with voigtlanders and thypochs).
I’m not considering native Z mount for simera as I want to use manual focus confirmation, so my choice is between the E and M mounts.
I was able to to try both for a few days only and they seem to perform very similarly (via Megadap ETZ and Funmount MTZ), except I caught a pretty bad veiling flare on M mount once, but then I couldn’t reproduce the issue later.
Given the filter stack thickness differences, the slight variation in lenses themselves (and all other "scientific" aspects), which system would you recommend adopting — M or E mount?
I would buy whichever mount you either A) have another camera in, or B) have more lenses in. I hate to have an adapter that lives on one lens and that's it, especially when they are $100+ adapters.
Personally, I think the focus confirm on ZF with manual glass is overblown. There's not enough customizable buttons to make it truly smooth in operation. Half the time, the focus picks a subject that I wouldn't have. I guess I could just use 3D-tracking, right? Turn off face/animal detect.
I would be ordering the 28/1.4 in black, but it has that stupid ugly chrome nose.
Strong Coma has been noted with the Simera 50 (see Bastians review at phillipreeve.net) not sure about the 28
I would love to test the CV 21 Nokton 1.4 for astro but dont expect wonders regarding Coma. Just a thought.
