I think it was to be expected and clear that there would also be losses with the Z-mount and that Thypoch hadn't adapted/optimized it for every single, different filter stack.
However, there is also no question that the thinner filter stack of Nikon Z, compared to Sony, is much better suited for adapting M-mount lenses than is the case with Sony.
Therefore, I'm not too worried about it; apart from a native M-mount sensor or a Kolari mod, Nikon Z-mount bodies seem to be the best solution for adapting M-mount optimized lenses.
It would be different if I were a Sony E-mount user.
As was to be expected we see the biggest differences with the wider lenses and at wider apertures and a lot less with the lenses stopped down, as the widened depth of field can cover the field curvature caused by the thicker filter stack to some degree. We also see that there is a big difference between the performance on a stock Sony A7III and a stock Nikon Z6 – with the latter being a much better choice for adapting M-mount lenses. While the lenses don’t perform just as good as on a Leica M10 or a camera with Kolari UT modification, it is usually only the exterme corners that show a slight degradation in image quality.
So I have little doubt that the Thypoch lens will work much better with my Z6/Z8 than it will with a Sony E-mount body.
What wories me more is that my dealer had to order the lens—the silver version, to be precise—and based on their experience with Thypoch, it will take at least a month.
Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT
When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses.
I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself.
And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close.
And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras.
When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari UT modded camera they show a similar degradation in image quality in the corners as M-mount wide angle lenses do when used on a stock Sony camera – physics work in both ways.
You can already find some comparisons showing this here.
If you are looking for a camera to adapt legacy lenses to in 2024, you should definitely have a closer look at Nikon’s Z-mount cameras.
Here, as an example, is the comment on one of the M-mount lenses tested there, the VM 21/1.4 Nokton.
So there's a huge performance difference, depending on the M-mount lens, between a Nikon Z6/Z and a Sony A7rII.
Where the Z6/Z7 comes close to the Sony with the Kolari UT Mod, the Sony A7rII falls apart.
This is therefore a topic that is much more serious for Sony users.
The Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 Nokton is a very complex modern design and on the Leica M10 it shows an amazing performance from f/1.4. It looks slightly worse on the Sony A7rII UT with the Nikon Z6 following closely behind. On the Sony A7III with its stock sensor it is a complete loss at f/1.4 by comparison: already the midframe looks just awful. Stopped down to f/8.0 it still doesn’t look as good on the A7III as it does on the other cameras.
I think it was to be expected and clear that there would also be losses with the Z-mount and that Thypoch hadn't adapted it for every single, different filter stack.
However, there is also no question that the thinner filter stack of Nikon Z, compared to Sony, is much better suited for adapting M-mount lenses than is the case with Sony.
Therefore, I'm not too worried about it; apart from a native M-mount sensor or a Kolari mod, Nikon Z-mount bodies seem to be the best solution for adapting M-mount optimized lenses.
It would be different if I were a Sony E-mount user.
As was to be expected we see the biggest differences with the wider lenses and at wider apertures and a lot less with the lenses stopped down, as the widened depth of field can cover the field curvature caused by the thicker filter stack to some degree. We also see that there is a big difference between the performance on a stock Sony A7III and a stock Nikon Z6 – with the latter being a much better choice for adapting M-mount lenses. While the lenses don’t perform just as good as on a Leica M10 or a camera with Kolari UT modification, it is usually only the exterme corners that show a slight degradation in image quality.
So I have little doubt that the Thypoch lens will work much better with my Z6/Z8 than it will with a Sony E-mount body.
What wories me more is that my dealer had to order the lens—the silver version, to be precise—and based on their experience with Thypoch, it will take at least a month.
Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT
When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses.
I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself.
And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close.
And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras.
When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari UT modded camera they show a similar degradation in image quality in the corners as M-mount wide angle lenses do when used on a stock Sony camera – physics work in both ways.
You can already find some comparisons showing this here.
If you are looking for a camera to adapt legacy lenses to in 2024, you should definitely have a closer look at Nikon’s Z-mount cameras.
Here, as an example, is the comment on one of the M-mount lenses tested there, the VM 21/1.4 Nokton.
So there's a huge performance difference, depending on the M-mount lens, between a Nikon Z6/Z and a Sony A7rII.
Where the Z6/Z7 comes close to the Sony with the Kolari UT Mod, the Sony A7rII falls apart.
This is therefore a topic that is much more serious for Sony users.
The Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 Nokton is a very complex modern design and on the Leica M10 it shows an amazing performance from f/1.4. It looks slightly worse on the Sony A7rII UT with the Nikon Z6 following closely behind. On the Sony A7III with its stock sensor it is a complete loss at f/1.4 by comparison: already the midframe looks just awful. Stopped down to f/8.0 it still doesn’t look as good on the A7III as it does on the other cameras.
I think it was to be expected and clear that there would also be losses with the Z-mount and that Thypoch hadn't adapted it for every single, different filter stack.
However, there is also no question that the thinner filter stack of Nikon Z, compared to Sony, is much better suited for adapting M-mount lenses than is the case with Sony.
Therefore, I'm not too worried about it; apart from a native M-mount sensor or a Kolari mod, Nikon Z-mount bodies seem to be the best solution for adapting M-mount optimized lenses.
It would be different if I were a Sony E-mount user.
As was to be expected we see the biggest differences with the wider lenses and at wider apertures and a lot less with the lenses stopped down, as the widened depth of field can cover the field curvature caused by the thicker filter stack to some degree. We also see that there is a big difference between the performance on a stock Sony A7III and a stock Nikon Z6 – with the latter being a much better choice for adapting M-mount lenses. While the lenses don’t perform just as good as on a Leica M10 or a camera with Kolari UT modification, it is usually only the exterme corners that show a slight degradation in image quality.
So I have little doubt that the Thypoch lens will work much better with my Z6/Z8 than it will with a Sony E-mount body.
What wories me more is that my dealer had to order the lens—the silver version, to be precise—and based on their experience with Thypoch, it will take at least a month.
Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT
When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses.
I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself.
And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close.
And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras.
When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari UT modded camera they show a similar degradation in image quality in the corners as M-mount wide angle lenses do when used on a stock Sony camera – physics work in both ways.
You can already find some comparisons showing this here.
If you are looking for a camera to adapt legacy lenses to in 2024, you should definitely have a closer look at Nikon’s Z-mount cameras.
Here, as an example, is the comment on one of the M-mount lenses tested there, the VM 21/1.4 Nokton.
So there's a huge performance difference, depending on the M-mount lens, between a Nikon Z6/Z and a Sony A7rII.
Where the Z6/Z7 comes close to the Sony with the Kolari UT Mod, the Sony A7rII falls apart.
This is therefore a topic that is much more serious for Sony users.
The Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 Nokton is a very complex modern design and on the Leica M10 it shows an amazing performance from f/1.4. It looks slightly worse on the Sony A7rII UT with the Nikon Z6 following closely behind. On the Sony A7III with its stock sensor it is a complete loss at f/1.4 by comparison: already the midframe looks just awful. Stopped down to f/8.0 it still doesn’t look as good on the A7III as it does on the other cameras.
I think it was to be expected and clear that there would also be losses with the Z-mount and that Thypoch hadn't adapted it for every single, different filter stack.
However, there is also no question that the thinner filter stack of Nikon Z, compared to Sony, is much better suited for adapting M-mount lenses than is the case with Sony.
Therefore, I'm not too worried about it; apart from a native M-mount sensor or a Kolari mod, Nikon Z-mount bodies seem to be the best solution for adapting M-mount optimized lenses.
It would be different if I were a Sony E-mount user.
So I have little doubt that the Thypoch lens will work much better with my Z6/Z8 than it will with a Sony E-mount body.
What wories me more is that my dealer had to order the lens—the silver version, to be precise—and based on their experience with Thypoch, it will take at least a month.
Different Filter Stacks and what they mean for us: Sony E | Nikon Z | Leica M | Kolari UT
When it comes to Nikon’s Z-mount cameras there were a lot of rumors regarding their filter stack thickness and how well they work with M-mount wide angle lenses.
I don’t like rumors, I like facts, so I decided to check for myself.
And what we found out here is, that they may not work as well with these M-mount wide angle lenses as a Leica M or Kolari modded camera, but in many cases they come very close.
And they play much better with these lenses than stock Sony E-mount cameras.
When using native E-mount wide angle lenses on a Kolari UT modded camera they show a similar degradation in image quality in the corners as M-mount wide angle lenses do when used on a stock Sony camera – physics work in both ways.
You can already find some comparisons showing this here.
If you are looking for a camera to adapt legacy lenses to in 2024, you should definitely have a closer look at Nikon’s Z-mount cameras.
Here, as an example, is the comment on one of the M-mount lenses tested there, the VM 21/1.4 Nokton.
So there's a huge performance difference, depending on the M-mount lens, between a Nikon Z6/Z and a Sony A7rII.
Where the Z6/Z7 comes close to the Sony with the Kolari UT Mod, the Sony A7rII falls apart.
This is therefore a topic that is much more serious for Sony users.
The Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 Nokton is a very complex modern design and on the Leica M10 it shows an amazing performance from f/1.4. It looks slightly worse on the Sony A7rII UT with the Nikon Z6 following closely behind. On the Sony A7III with its stock sensor it is a complete loss at f/1.4 by comparison: already the midframe looks just awful. Stopped down to f/8.0 it still doesn’t look as good on the A7III as it does on the other cameras.
