Wezre wrote:
The rear cap on the Thypoch 28 1.4 is miserably loose and comes off even with gentle handling. I tried replacing it with a Nikon rear cap and it wouldn't tighten at all, just stayed loose. I was using the lens with the rectangular hood and push-on front cap. The cap seemed to stay on fine, but the hood didn't securely click into place and would easily rotate loose.
Please share if you find a solution to the rear cap. My rectangular hood stays on but the cap on the hood does come off easily. Not like the rear cap though.....that cap has absolutely zero connection to the mount unless I tape it. Who in their right mind builds an optically marvelous lens but fails to secure a mount cap?!!! Rant over
For those becoming annoyed at the performance of the supplied Simera Z rear cap and Nikon LF-N1 rear caps on the Simera Z 28mm, check your inventory of 3rd party Z rear caps. I found two unbranded Z rear caps of unknown origin that work perfectly on the mount of the Simera 28/1.4. BTW, the Meike branded cap that came on Meike extension tubes doesn't work well. The Simera rear Z cap works fine on Nikon Z lenses and FTZ adapters.
Keith B. wrote:
For those becoming annoyed at the performance of the supplied Simera Z rear cap and Nikon LF-N1 rear caps on the Simera Z 28mm, check your inventory of 3rd party Z rear caps. I found two unbranded Z rear caps of unknown origin that work perfectly on the mount of the Simera 28/1.4. BTW, the Meike branded cap that came on Meike extension tubes doesn't work well. The Simera rear Z cap works fine on Nikon Z lenses and FTZ adapters.
Thanks. Unfortunately the Z lens caps do not stick to the Thypoch 28 for me, but the Thypoch cap does work fine on the Z lenses.....so it's a mount issue.
Thanks for the reminder though.....the Meike extension tube caps don't stay on the extension tubes either. But at least there's no glass elements to worry about!
Haha, it's so reassuring to see people complaining about similar things.
I also poked my head in to complain about the caps. My complaint is that the square front cap that goes over the lens hood tends to slip off, and it's metal so it clangs against the lens in the camera bag if it does. So... probably not going to use it
RoamingScott wrote:
Also note that if you’re like me and like having the lens hoods on your Voigtander, the cap size is larger if you want the front cap to attach directly to the hood instead of inside to the lens itself.
I’ve started putting standard Nikon Z back caps on all of my lenses just for consistency sake
The Nikon 58mm cap fits on the 40mm f/1.2 Nokton (Z mount) with or without the hood. This allows me to screw the lens hood on and leave it attached.
nineblade wrote:
Haha, it's so reassuring to see people complaining about similar things.
I also poked my head in to complain about the caps. My complaint is that the square front cap that goes over the lens hood tends to slip off, and it's metal so it clangs against the lens in the camera bag if it does. So... probably not going to use it
Friction-fit caps are insecure and nearly useless and the one supplied with the Simera 28/1.4 has little value. I put a 49-52 step up ring and an ancient Nikon HN-1 hood on mine. I can put a 52mm Nikon NC filter on this rig if I go to the beach.
I bought all 3 (typoch 28mm z mount, typoch 28mm m mount adapted to z, voigtlander 28mm) in plans of keeping one. What I found was:
1. Typoch m glass adapted has the most pleasing rendering. It controls flairs and has much better contrast and colors in high light contrast situations. The manual focus ring is incredibly stiff. It's annoying.
2. The typoch for z mount is not too much behind. It does loose some contrast and abit of washing out but that also gives it the most filmic look. It also handles shadows the nicest, with the best transition and tonality between light and dark.zoom ring is perfect.
3. The voigtlander images is all over the place. Sharpest, no doubt, but purple fringing. I think it handles flaires best, maintaining a good contrasry image, and jt has the best sun stars. The sun stars in this lens is exceptionally good. But the tonality and transition from light to dark is lacking. It also colder and somewhat clinical with not as filmic character as the typoch. It's sharper, but the typoch images have more presence? While the voigtlander seem thinner? If that makes sense.....handling though, hands down is best. Zoom ring is soon smooth, and the size factor fits perfectly.
Joeyguess wrote:
1. Typoch m glass adapted has the most pleasing rendering. It controls flairs and has much better contrast and colors in high light contrast situations. The manual focus ring is incredibly stiff. It's annoying.
2. The typoch for z mount is not too much behind. It does loose some contrast and abit of washing out but that also gives it the most filmic look. It also handles shadows the nicest, with the best transition and tonality between light and dark.zoom ring is perfect.
I wonder how the different mount could affect the contrast, the cinematographic look, flare and so on.
Could these differences, along with greater or lesser stiffness of the focus ring, be ascribable to sample variation?
I think it's just the difference from the manufacturing. I suspect they use better coating elements in the leica lens. Also, perhaps, they designed the barrel to have a tighter focus ring. I heard from other users the same complaint. But, the image quality is wow...the z mount isn't far behind. It's just the leica has a glow...but the z mount is filmic. Though I think the usability of the smoother focus ring and the slightly lighter size is swaying me towards it
In Germany, the M-mount Typ II is € 280 more expensive at present. In US it's the same, more or less ($ 255 now).
Hope they haven't cut the quality of E- and Z-mount versions to save manufacturing costs, e.g., coatings ...
Keith B. wrote:
Friction-fit caps are insecure and nearly useless and the one supplied with the Simera 28/1.4 has little value. I put a 49-52 step up ring and an ancient Nikon HN-1 hood on mine. I can put a 52mm Nikon NC filter on this rig if I go to the beach.
EDIT (1.5 Months later) Once I was convinced that the Simera 28mm could consistently produce usable shots for me, I knuckled under and bought a 49mm B+W 007 filter, and with that was able to go with the supplied Simera 28/1.4 hood. Now I just leave the clear filter on + the hood.
What I like most about the Simera Z 28mm is that the focus stroke is so long that I can scale focus with great accuracy. Of course, on my copy, the engraved focus marks are way off, so I had add my usual silver paint marker dots for infinity, 15', 10', and 5'.
There's something strange about how Thypoch designed the focusing mechanism. The stroke seems longer at the infinity end than the close focus end...exactly the opposite of the way standard lens helicoids usually work. There's also some sort of cam action that engages at the close end of the focus rotation and seems to accelerate the rate of focus change as you focus closer than about 1 meter...very strange!
Joeyguess wrote:
first time using this, not sure why the pics aren't coming up on the thread
2nd and 3rd look good to me, and very similar to eachother. I'm guessing those are the simeras. I like the 1st but it has more of a vintage look to my eyes. It might suit a grainy image more but a little less flatterring.
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Lovely photo btw, was there much post-processing? Looks almost like film.
Phew, very frustrating. I can't find the share button!
In any case, yes, the last 2 are simera the 1st one is the voigtlander. I did some post processing, mostly threw a lut on and some slide adjustments. I am having a hars time choosing. The voigtlander has deeper more saturates colors. Is sharper and more contrast. Also controls flairs. The simera has much better bokeh. And a very filmic vibe. Also the voigtlander is substantially easier to use...the center of gravity falls in the camera, so you feel it more easier on the wrist (I don't use the additional grip on the zf becasue it ads another 120grams). Which ones do you.like?
Not sure why else the share button wouldn't show but you could try a different web browser.
I think for this style, the nokton suits the lut you used really well. But I think the subjects themselves would prefer a Simera, and they still look good with the lut.
I also own both (but for Sony with the nokton, simera m-mount), and I've justified keeping both (in my head) by appointing the nokton to be for filmic vibes.
I'm not good at letting go quickly though, so I'll keep quiet after this.
