EB-1 wrote:
I doubt there are any new DSLR designs and few if any in production. It's like saying film is a comeback, because maybe they are selling more boutique filmstocks, but there is no significant volume of camera production.
EBH
It's more like saying high speed dial up is making a comeback because people miss the handshake sound. Those of us who've moved to broadband will never look back, or understand the sentiment.
And I'm saying this as someone who still packs a D810 as a backup body. I dread having to bring it out :/
I'm of the opinion that a camera is a tool for completing a specific task. If your priority is still capture, which is what I do with little or no interest in video or crazy high frame rates, then you may be holding onto your dSLR because it is still giving you everything you need. And, while mirrorless may give you a few more tricks, the cost of the upgrade for the bodies and lenses just doesn't make all that much sense.
jlafferty wrote:
It's more like saying high speed dial up is making a comeback because people miss the handshake sound. Those of us who've moved to broadband will never look back, or understand the sentiment.
And I'm saying this as someone who still packs a D810 as a backup body. I dread having to bring it out :/
Yet the IQ of many of my 2015 5DsR images is equal and or better to the 45MP cameras. Of course the old cameras were slower, but the end result was far less different that the specs would indicate. Of course I would not use it today, but from mid 2015 to mid 2017 it was my preferred body.
jlafferty wrote:
It's more like saying high speed dial up is making a comeback because people miss the handshake sound. Those of us who've moved to broadband will never look back, or understand the sentiment.
I spent years with a 300 baud modem connection between my ADM-3A terminal at home and the DEC20 mainframe at work, starting in the late seventies. Later, it was a VT100 terminal with Tektronix 4010 graphics, at 1200 baud. Then, I got a 386SX - wow!
I'd rather not go back. Although, I'd happily use a DEC20; its TOPS20 operating system was the most easy to use, that I've yet seen.
I currently use a mix of DSLR (5DS,6D,SL2) and mirrorless (M5,M6). I'll buy into the R-series when they release something that will produce a meaningful increase in image quality. Like, a 100MP camera.
I came into internet usage at the tail end of those times (when 14.4 became 28.8, and then 56k!), and they were wonderful. I miss what the internet was back then. I do not miss the tools needed to connect with it at all
jcolwell wrote:
I spent years with a 300 baud modem connection between my ADM-3A terminal at home and the DEC20 mainframe at work, staring in the late seventies.
Your typo is actually quite apt, as we did spend a fair amount to time “staring” at the screen while we waited for stuff to connect and then load over modems.
EB-1 wrote:
So now we spend 30 minutes staring at a bozo rambling on the Google U-Tube when we used to read a coherent article in 5 minutes.
EBH
Never understood why some blokes OPINION of anything should be any more interesting than mine, Give me numbers, measurements, corner crops of comparisons with others, Then I can make up my own mind whether it will do what I want or not.
gdanmitchell wrote:
Your typo is actually quite apt, as we did spend a fair amount to time “staring” at the screen while we waited for stuff to connect and then load over modems.
And then using FidoNet to send and receive messages, sometimes waiting a day or two to get a reply....
The last DSLR that I used was my 5d2. When Sony came out with their compact mirrorless A7r I jumped quickly for the weight savings alone. I never looked back and I see no real advantages in using a dslr over a mirrorless system these days.
Yup. D850 and just purchased a D780 in Jan of this year. I thought hard about a Z8 but opted for the 24MP D780 instead. The D850 & D780 compliment each other perfectly. That said the D780 is an amazing image producer. It's basically a Z6 in live view so I get the mirrorless experience. I also now see how a full mirrorless camera adds things (live histogram) that ease the shooting experience that a DSLR can't match.
I fully intend to eventually jump to a Z8. Probably around the time that a Z8 II is announced. At that point I'll swoop in and get a minty Z8 from someone who wants to fund their Z8 II.
Recently used a D4S and D5 to shoot a high school reunion in a bar mixed with outdoors stuff. Didn't want to use my Z9 and Z6III and didn't trust my Fuji XH cameras AF in lighting that bad. They got it done, though the D4S struggled a bit in the bar. Kinda makes me want a D6 at a deep discount I got paid and the client was happy that's all that matters. There's a use case for these things, but 90% of the time I use my mirrorless cameras.
JadedWriter wrote:
Recently used a D4S and D5 to shoot a high school reunion in a bar mixed with outdoors stuff. Didn't want to use my Z9 and Z6III and didn't trust my Fuji XH cameras AF in lighting that bad. They got it done, though the D4S struggled a bit in the bar. Kinda makes me want a D6 at a deep discount I got paid and the client was happy that's all that matters. There's a use case for these things, but 90% of the time I use my mirrorless cameras.
Didn't feel worth it. $200 event that lasted like 70 minutes of my time. Didn't want to use anything super high rez either. I just wanted easy to import, easy to export, dark AF space so I just wanted a down and dirty OVF for that. The D4S and D5 fit the bill perfectly. The Z9 and Z6III I think would've performed fine AF wise I just didn't want to bother with them if that make any sense. sonofjesse2010 wrote:
Why didn't you want to use the Z9/Z6III?
The D5 is my daily driver and the D3S is my back up body. I am interested in getting the Z9 mk II when it becomes available. All of the photographers in my circle that shoot college and pro sports are shooting mirrorless. I'm also interested in getting a smaller full frame when I'm out all day and don't need a pro body.
I got paid and the client was happy that's all that matters. There's a use case for these things, but 90% of the time I use my mirrorless cameras.