Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
p.7 #1Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Nick YR wrote:
Nice pics! So is the 28mm Simera really having warmer cast in the rendering vs the Nokton?
Late to the party, but I was noticing this also.
Nice pics! So is the 28mm Simera really having warmer cast in the rendering vs the Nokton?
Late to the party, but I was noticing this also.
Nov 28, 2025 at 09:00 AM
p.7 #2Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Hey everyone, I hope this is ok but just wanted to mention I got a copy of this lens recently from an ebay seller named "Cargo Largo" I think they were selling it for 580 or so, I offered 500 they countered with 535, I accepted and got it for $550 after shipping aprx 200 bucks cheaper than retail. It came yesterday, so far so good on my M240. Was listed as new in box, and came fully plastic wrapped with all accessories and papers so seems to be legit. Only taken cat photos so far but no issues currently and it is the Type 2 version with the focus tab. Last I checked they still had 5 in stock.
Dec 11, 2025 at 03:07 PM
p.7 #3Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
I don't really see the Simera coatings producing warmer images compared to the Voigtlander Nokton in these side-by-side comparisons:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1896188/1#16787749
RustyBug wrote:
Late to the party, but I was noticing this also.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1896188/1#16787749
RustyBug wrote:
Nick YR wrote
Nice pics! So is the 28mm Simera really having warmer cast in the rendering vs the Nokton?Dec 11, 2025 at 05:53 PM
p.7 #4Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
well I was going to wait for the eventual chipped version (assuming it is coming) for my Zf but BH had an open box 28mm simera for $330 that I had a hard time turning down.
I have never had a fast 28mm (all of my 28mm experience is with the GR) so I am looking forward to testing this.
I have never had a fast 28mm (all of my 28mm experience is with the GR) so I am looking forward to testing this.
Dec 24, 2025 at 10:15 AM
p.7 #5Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Yogifi wrote:
Anyone tried this one on a Fuji aps-c?
I don't have an adaptor for m to x but the lens should be arriving...sometime. Would be like a 42mm or so.
The adaptor isn't expensive, was thinking the Urth one. Might a be a bit too big with the adaptor for the xe5.
I had the native Fuji X mount version on my X-T5 and it's a really fun lens to use. I bought it primarily because of the focus falloff (I guess that's what it would be called?) and how it gives a "3D effect" to subjects shot at closer focusing distances. It *almost* renders like the Mitakon 65 does on the GFX system, just not nearly as severe, if you will. I first saw the 28mm and 35mm on social media on the Zf and fell in love with that.
The only "issue" I have with the lens is having not bought it brand new. I bought it more or less as an open box (unofficially) from someone and didn't notice until having it for a month and a half, having barely been able to use it, that it won't focus to infinity until I stop down to ~f/4-5.6...ish.
I contacted Thypoch and they basically said sucks to suck, here's some placed that could adjust focus. I was quoted around $175 to fix it, which really sucks. I've seen a handful of other people, via Threads, that had the same issue with the 28mm on Fuji, but thankfully they bought it first hand and had just returned it for a new copy, which I unfortunately can't do.
Aside from that, the experience of using the lens is fantastic.
Anyone tried this one on a Fuji aps-c?
I don't have an adaptor for m to x but the lens should be arriving...sometime. Would be like a 42mm or so.
The adaptor isn't expensive, was thinking the Urth one. Might a be a bit too big with the adaptor for the xe5.
I had the native Fuji X mount version on my X-T5 and it's a really fun lens to use. I bought it primarily because of the focus falloff (I guess that's what it would be called?) and how it gives a "3D effect" to subjects shot at closer focusing distances. It *almost* renders like the Mitakon 65 does on the GFX system, just not nearly as severe, if you will. I first saw the 28mm and 35mm on social media on the Zf and fell in love with that.
The only "issue" I have with the lens is having not bought it brand new. I bought it more or less as an open box (unofficially) from someone and didn't notice until having it for a month and a half, having barely been able to use it, that it won't focus to infinity until I stop down to ~f/4-5.6...ish.
I contacted Thypoch and they basically said sucks to suck, here's some placed that could adjust focus. I was quoted around $175 to fix it, which really sucks. I've seen a handful of other people, via Threads, that had the same issue with the 28mm on Fuji, but thankfully they bought it first hand and had just returned it for a new copy, which I unfortunately can't do.
Aside from that, the experience of using the lens is fantastic.
Jan 09, 2026 at 12:34 PM
p.7 #6Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
It seems there are three versions of this lens for M-mount in the wild:
- Original version with infinity lock and steel ring
- Focus tab version with steel ring
- Focus tab version without steel ring
I ordered a "focus tab version" in black and it has the steel ring but if you look at the "Type II" version with focus tab on B&H it does not have the steel ring.
- Original version with infinity lock and steel ring
- Focus tab version with steel ring
- Focus tab version without steel ring
I ordered a "focus tab version" in black and it has the steel ring but if you look at the "Type II" version with focus tab on B&H it does not have the steel ring.
Jan 09, 2026 at 12:37 PM
p.7 #7Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Does anyone else's copy of the 28mm Simera make a rustling noise when focusing? I'm curious if this is normal on all copies.
Mar 06, 2026 at 10:38 PM
p.7 #8Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
blinkfrog wrote:
Does anyone else's copy of the 28mm Simera make a rustling noise when focusing? I'm curious if this is normal on all copies.
I’ve not heard that myself….
Does anyone else's copy of the 28mm Simera make a rustling noise when focusing? I'm curious if this is normal on all copies.
I’ve not heard that myself….
Mar 09, 2026 at 10:10 AM
p.7 #9Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Some of you might be aware some dude (me) went from Thypoch Simera 28mm to the 28/1.4 Summilux M. The reason I did was due to upgrading M body but on the M10-P, I really didn't like it as much as when it was paired with M9.
Fast forward to recently I managed to fine tune my preset and finally, I'm seeing basically same rendering as it did, and falling in love with the Thypoch again. Something about the way it render colors, I thought the lux having higher saturation but the Thypoch actually rendered the color differently, in a way the lux felt more life-like, more opaque if you will, while the Thypoch has more glow to it. I thought it was the M9 unique tonality, but turned out to be the lens! What's really great about the Thypoch is the rounded and smooth tonal transitions, which the lux was lacking...
Here are both M9 and M10-P
Fast forward to recently I managed to fine tune my preset and finally, I'm seeing basically same rendering as it did, and falling in love with the Thypoch again. Something about the way it render colors, I thought the lux having higher saturation but the Thypoch actually rendered the color differently, in a way the lux felt more life-like, more opaque if you will, while the Thypoch has more glow to it. I thought it was the M9 unique tonality, but turned out to be the lens! What's really great about the Thypoch is the rounded and smooth tonal transitions, which the lux was lacking...
Here are both M9 and M10-P
Apr 21, 2026 at 01:25 AM
p.7 #10Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Another set (different subject but similar color palette)
Apr 21, 2026 at 01:44 AM
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p.7 #11Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
I went through the review again paying attention to one thing. Fred, to my eye when the Simera is set to infinity the DOF seems to me to be better in the corner near to camera than the CS 1.4. I really like the 1.4 28 Nokton it is a goto landscaper for me when light is a bit dim like in Alaska. The posts are downscaled, am I correct in my assessment that the Simera has a better in focus DOF for near field when landscaping for infinity ? My CS 1.4 is most often displaced by the apo Lanthar when light is great, the lens to beat, except when weight challenged and light is great then it is 2.8 color skoper.
Apr 21, 2026 at 08:46 AM
p.7 #12Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
EMH2025 wrote:
I went through the review again paying attention to one thing. Fred, to my eye when the Simera is set to infinity the DOF seems to me to be better in the corner near to camera than the CS 1.4. I really like the 1.4 28 Nokton it is a goto landscaper for me when light is a bit dim like in Alaska. The posts are downscaled, am I correct in my assessment that the Simera has a better in focus DOF for near field when landscaping for infinity ? My CS 1.4 is most often displaced by the apo...Show more →
While I'm not Fred, I'd say the simera render very different to the Nokton 28/1.5 (which the rendering is so close to that of 28 summilux M which I had good dea of experiences with), and one should take into consideration about the draw character alongside the optical performances.
My own take was that there are a lot to love about the summilux but ultimately, I still like the artistic color rendering way more. If you like how the Nokton rendered chances is that you'll also need to deal with the different character from the simera.
I went through the review again paying attention to one thing. Fred, to my eye when the Simera is set to infinity the DOF seems to me to be better in the corner near to camera than the CS 1.4. I really like the 1.4 28 Nokton it is a goto landscaper for me when light is a bit dim like in Alaska. The posts are downscaled, am I correct in my assessment that the Simera has a better in focus DOF for near field when landscaping for infinity ? My CS 1.4 is most often displaced by the apo...Show more →
While I'm not Fred, I'd say the simera render very different to the Nokton 28/1.5 (which the rendering is so close to that of 28 summilux M which I had good dea of experiences with), and one should take into consideration about the draw character alongside the optical performances.
My own take was that there are a lot to love about the summilux but ultimately, I still like the artistic color rendering way more. If you like how the Nokton rendered chances is that you'll also need to deal with the different character from the simera.
Apr 21, 2026 at 09:13 AM
p.7 #13Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Rendering of this lens really is special for a fast wide angle. Bokeh is smooth but given the FOV, the context of the background will always be there to document the story.
DSC07871 by Mystik, on Flickr
DSC07874 by Mystik, on Flickr
DSC07864 by Mystik, on Flickr
DSC07887 by Mystik, on Flickr
DSC07917 by Mystik, on Flickr
DSC07911 by Mystik, on Flickr
DSC07871 by Mystik, on FlickrDSC07874 by Mystik, on FlickrDSC07864 by Mystik, on FlickrDSC07887 by Mystik, on FlickrDSC07917 by Mystik, on FlickrDSC07911 by Mystik, on FlickrApr 21, 2026 at 10:08 PM
p.7 #14Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
King of fruits! Now I'm back to shooting with this lens I really appreciate the colors it renders and tonal separation. So much so now I'm seriously considering selling my 28mm Summilux, but they say never sell a Leica lens...
Apr 21, 2026 at 10:54 PM
p.7 #15Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Here are a couple of night shots from a recent trip to Bergen, Norway. All wide open on the A7RV. I was happy with these.
Apr 22, 2026 at 05:32 AM
p.7 #16Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
Following the post above about Thypoch vs Summilux, ultimately I sold the Summilux.
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but gave me images with more textures (grittier if you will) which I always valued.
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but gave me images with more textures (grittier if you will) which I always valued.
Jun 13, 2026 at 07:46 AM
p.7 #17Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
jeffersoncasey wrote:
Following the post above about Thypoch vs Summilux, ultimately I sold the Summilux.
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOacS9HsL_SoJuO0UE4pH3jNrBxFOH7l3mk1nWCyQqRovlOwyxCtC9pEyzNydlp22JNJbk_3lipMLoelk2qEeqWT_Rdf670_eUvtNT7oWRHJ4svOLbBDLld6Pyic0m5a76btFQqODpzepbiOoohwWrS=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnx1IuysvfFyVdvKT-KRfVMizUt0gO8_Yi-TyqvRh_FQ25o8RGLpBpUluuhd9AF3IIg1amBLceeILWOfKj-_1-0CeSvftztGbZ9ttIMArxmPCeW-bTLySrSGcv7y0QW34hln_HsnjlB30ZkmaTXJp2=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but...Show more →
Is the Lux the top one? From the small image I’m looking at looks like much more detail
Following the post above about Thypoch vs Summilux, ultimately I sold the Summilux.
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOacS9HsL_SoJuO0UE4pH3jNrBxFOH7l3mk1nWCyQqRovlOwyxCtC9pEyzNydlp22JNJbk_3lipMLoelk2qEeqWT_Rdf670_eUvtNT7oWRHJ4svOLbBDLld6Pyic0m5a76btFQqODpzepbiOoohwWrS=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnx1IuysvfFyVdvKT-KRfVMizUt0gO8_Yi-TyqvRh_FQ25o8RGLpBpUluuhd9AF3IIg1amBLceeILWOfKj-_1-0CeSvftztGbZ9ttIMArxmPCeW-bTLySrSGcv7y0QW34hln_HsnjlB30ZkmaTXJp2=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but...Show more →
Is the Lux the top one? From the small image I’m looking at looks like much more detail
Jun 13, 2026 at 08:18 AM
p.7 #18Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
You're right, top is the lux, curious which part you're noticing more details, but I can see people generally prefer visible shadows but to me the contrasts within the texture looked washed out.
Also a fun fact - the Thypoch always produce more moires...
rsolti13 wrote:
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOacS9HsL_SoJuO0UE4pH3jNrBxFOH7l3mk1nWCyQqRovlOwyxCtC9pEyzNydlp22JNJbk_3lipMLoelk2qEeqWT_Rdf670_eUvtNT7oWRHJ4svOLbBDLld6Pyic0m5a76btFQqODpzepbiOoohwWrS=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnx1IuysvfFyVdvKT-KRfVMizUt0gO8_Yi-TyqvRh_FQ25o8RGLpBpUluuhd9AF3IIg1amBLceeILWOfKj-_1-0CeSvftztGbZ9ttIMArxmPCeW-bTLySrSGcv7y0QW34hln_HsnjlB30ZkmaTXJp2=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but gave me images with more textures (grittier if you will) which I always valued.Is the Lux the top one? From the small image I’m looking at looks like much more detail
Also a fun fact - the Thypoch always produce more moires...
rsolti13 wrote:
jeffersoncasey wrote
Following the post above about Thypoch vs Summilux, ultimately I sold the Summilux.Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOacS9HsL_SoJuO0UE4pH3jNrBxFOH7l3mk1nWCyQqRovlOwyxCtC9pEyzNydlp22JNJbk_3lipMLoelk2qEeqWT_Rdf670_eUvtNT7oWRHJ4svOLbBDLld6Pyic0m5a76btFQqODpzepbiOoohwWrS=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnx1IuysvfFyVdvKT-KRfVMizUt0gO8_Yi-TyqvRh_FQ25o8RGLpBpUluuhd9AF3IIg1amBLceeILWOfKj-_1-0CeSvftztGbZ9ttIMArxmPCeW-bTLySrSGcv7y0QW34hln_HsnjlB30ZkmaTXJp2=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but gave me images with more textures (grittier if you will) which I always valued.
Jun 13, 2026 at 08:32 AM
p.7 #19Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
I kinda love the way this lens renders. I wish the build quality was a bit better on the Thypoch's, but I like their approach to lens design. Wide open, they tend to glow and get swirly, but when you stop them down they get more clinical. They're sorta 2-in-1 lenses!
Aug 04, 2026 at 12:17 PM
p.7 #20Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4 ASPH. Type II Review
jeffersoncasey wrote:
Following the post above about Thypoch vs Summilux, ultimately I sold the Summilux.
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOacS9HsL_SoJuO0UE4pH3jNrBxFOH7l3mk1nWCyQqRovlOwyxCtC9pEyzNydlp22JNJbk_3lipMLoelk2qEeqWT_Rdf670_eUvtNT7oWRHJ4svOLbBDLld6Pyic0m5a76btFQqODpzepbiOoohwWrS=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnx1IuysvfFyVdvKT-KRfVMizUt0gO8_Yi-TyqvRh_FQ25o8RGLpBpUluuhd9AF3IIg1amBLceeILWOfKj-_1-0CeSvftztGbZ9ttIMArxmPCeW-bTLySrSGcv7y0QW34hln_HsnjlB30ZkmaTXJp2=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but...Show more →
I preferred the top images before I read the it was the Lux. But I don't think it's a super helpful comp to be honest.
What aperture are these at? And it looks like the exposure is different--the Simera images looks darker which works against it.
I owned the Simera 28/1.4 and liked it. I would not say it's a micro-contrast lens. WO, it's a bit soft but with pleasant color and modern smooth bokeh. Stopped down, most lenses, especially primes, are good across the frame.
I'd like to see a comp WO with the same exposure in not overcast light at a distance. Do you still have both lenses?
Also, Fred compared the 28/1.5 and Lux 28/1.4 extensively--they render so closely you probably could sell you 28 Lux, replace it with the much cheaper/smaller CV with the same rendering and keep the Simera 28/1.4. Meaning, you'd have your two renderings and you'd save a boatload of cash
Following the post above about Thypoch vs Summilux, ultimately I sold the Summilux.
Without going in-depth about the differences between the two lenses, here's a set of comparison between the Thypoch and the Summilux (pardon the geometry auto correction on one of them). Ultimately the Thypoch's rich micro contrast won me over, which caught me off guard because the Summilux is a sharper and punchier lens overall.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOacS9HsL_SoJuO0UE4pH3jNrBxFOH7l3mk1nWCyQqRovlOwyxCtC9pEyzNydlp22JNJbk_3lipMLoelk2qEeqWT_Rdf670_eUvtNT7oWRHJ4svOLbBDLld6Pyic0m5a76btFQqODpzepbiOoohwWrS=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnx1IuysvfFyVdvKT-KRfVMizUt0gO8_Yi-TyqvRh_FQ25o8RGLpBpUluuhd9AF3IIg1amBLceeILWOfKj-_1-0CeSvftztGbZ9ttIMArxmPCeW-bTLySrSGcv7y0QW34hln_HsnjlB30ZkmaTXJp2=w2048-h1365-s-no-gm?authuser=0
This comparison also reminds me back when I still have the 35croh asph and 28cron V1, I always felt the 28cron was a boring lens for some reason, while the 35 was less sharp, but...Show more →
I preferred the top images before I read the it was the Lux. But I don't think it's a super helpful comp to be honest.
What aperture are these at? And it looks like the exposure is different--the Simera images looks darker which works against it.
I owned the Simera 28/1.4 and liked it. I would not say it's a micro-contrast lens. WO, it's a bit soft but with pleasant color and modern smooth bokeh. Stopped down, most lenses, especially primes, are good across the frame.
I'd like to see a comp WO with the same exposure in not overcast light at a distance. Do you still have both lenses?
Also, Fred compared the 28/1.5 and Lux 28/1.4 extensively--they render so closely you probably could sell you 28 Lux, replace it with the much cheaper/smaller CV with the same rendering and keep the Simera 28/1.4. Meaning, you'd have your two renderings and you'd save a boatload of cash
Aug 04, 2026 at 12:51 PM