p.70 #4 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
rdeloe wrote:
Apropos of nothing, this seems like a good time for one of my favourite snarky quotations:
"If you buy a camera you are a photographer. If you buy a violin, you own a violin."
Speaking as a musician (a couple of degrees…) I can tell you that it isn’t that simple. If you buy a Stradivarius you…
… own a Stradivarius.
But there will be a lot of people disappointed to learn (or unable to accept) that if you buy a really expensive, fancy camera (or a bunch of them) that you…
… own an expensive camera. ;-)
Another weird thing: There have been photographers who made really excellent photographs using pretty crude equipment. (Has anyone else ever visited Edward Weston’s darkroom?)
p.70 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
gdanmitchell wrote:
Speaking as a musician (a couple of degrees…) I can tell you that it isn’t that simple. If you buy a Stradivarius you…
… own a Stradivarius.
But there will be a lot of people disappointed to learn (or unable to accept) that if you buy a really expensive, fancy camera (or a bunch of them) that you…
… own an expensive camera. ;-)
Another weird thing: There have been photographers who made really excellent photographs using pretty crude equipment. (Has anyone else ever visited Edward Weston’s darkroom?)
Dan
That is true, and yet there's this very fine monkey selfie made with an expensive camera!
p.70 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Almost two weeks with the camera and it starts to feel like my own
In the begininng the user interface felt a bit overhelming but dialling Fn-buttons much like in my X100V, made very familiar. I have not had much problems of accidentally hitting cropping lever, but that might be different in winter with gloves.
Changing aspect ratio is fun, but I do not use thatt much. I also find the aspect ratio dial slightly akward. My solution was to have the dial in c and change aspect ratio with front control dial.
The hood and filter system is very nice although a little large. I have almost never use the plasticy lens cover for hood, just toss the camera to bag lens open. Strap feels high quality but it is too stiff to my liking, and takes up room while camera is in bag - I am looking for a replacement strap.
Image quality is great. High ISO performance is surprising considering that is basically a larger version of same sensor I have used in Sony A7rV. I have considered A7rV to be only average in High ISO. Also dynamic range is improved over FF. GFX100RF colors and tonality is ok - I have always considered Fujifilm colors as overhyped while in the same Sony colors have been ranted for no reason.
Some pictures. I am still a bit lost in how to post process GFX100RF files. I use C1. Very often the pictures are actually good almost straight out of the camera - very nice
p.70 #8 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
For anyone looking, B&H has silver in stock at the moment. I'd buy it but just haven't convinced myself to part with $4,900 yet. It will probably go quickly.
p.70 #10 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
That's a very kind thing to say, but I think location and time do a lot. I had 10 days to shoot without pressure, and the results are still just ok, IMO (I'm just an ok photographer). Most of the influencers only had the camera for a day or two, I think.
p.70 #11 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Continuing to report on GFX100RF in person usage ... I've decided to keep it, which I was not expecting to come to that conclusion because 1) I already have a Q2 and A7CR and 2) the price tag.
Maybe it will change later, but the aspect ratios and digital crop zoom is of no interest for me after enough usage, which I went in thinking those would be the top differentiators for me to keep it. Funny how actual experience changes things at times.
So why am I keeping it?
Because there's a handful of street images / environmental portraits that I captured that when viewed next to all my other sensors/lenses there really does seem to be something special (I've never used medium format). One litmus test for me of telling how much I connect with an image is how many times I go back and look at it .... and I've done so 40+ times ... and if they still "hit", then I know.
Usually this "specialness" seen happens in the honeymoon period for most of my new purchases, but that has waned, and the "specialness" has remained. There's nothing magical about the camera overcoming my photography shortcomings, as my crap shots still look like crap just 100 megapixels of crap.
But, when I do my part .... I don't know how to describe it other than some blend of real and surreal feeling, which is probably even more confusing than more helpful
p.70 #12 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
That's a very kind thing to say, but I think location and time do a lot. I had 10 days to shoot without pressure, and the results are still just ok, IMO (I'm just an ok photographer). Most of the influencers only had the camera for a day or two, I think.
Here's some more for ya, though:
I hear ya, tryin' to downplay the "nothin' special" ... and that's kinda what makes it special. When the "nothin' special" is this enjoyable to look at ... that's special.
I know it sounds like "circular speak", but I think you get the gist. The point of the camera's ethos is (imo) excellence with ease / ease of carry. I think you've shown that ethos, nicely.
As to "influencers" ... I hear ya that they had a short time with the camera. But, they apparently aren't (imo) much of an influencer if they couldn't influence me the way yours have. It should have been with similar ease for them to do so.
p.70 #13 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Excellent images, this kind of documentary photography suited for this camera. Some images just deny the complains about lack of separation with F4 lens.
p.70 #14 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Had mine three days now. Wasn't going to but my *dealer* reserved one for me just in case....
Early days and not really used in anger but early impressions. I do have GFX cameras, X2D's and a 907x but no (and never have had) an X100.
Love:
* SIze and weight. Apart from the grip it's not vastly smaller body than the X2D but the lens is genuinely tiny. Maybe the V2 could add a small grip and move the battery allowing for IBIS and improved handling. It feels genuinely tiny in the hand.
* Shutter. Quiet and very very smooth.
* Physical controls. They're not super ergonomic but it's a contemplative camera and they feel nice. Feels *premium*. Power switch needs more resistance though.
* IQ. Lens is excellent and leaf shutter does help with shooting speeds. Good CA control. 1/30th is doable for me with the GFX RF.
* EVF location.
* Startup speed and general responsiveness. It's small. I expected it to be a bit more sluggish.
Hate:
* The menus. Really Fuji? I get it on my GFX100ii but this camera should dump half the menu items.
* Limitations on what you can set the rear dial click to.
* Joystick. Just awful but some Sugru should fix it.
* Lens hood/filter. God awful piece of crap. Just put a friggin filter thread on the lens. Adding nearly an inch to the size of the lens to make the thing water resistant is plain stupidity. The hood is huge. If you don't use the hood but do have a filter the push cap doesn't fit. A mental patient designed the hood filter arangement.
* You can't force a peak design strap anchor into the strap lug holes. First camera ever I couldn't get a PD anchor onto. I've gone off rope straps.
Meh:
* I'd swap the menu and play buttons.
* Why is playback magnification lost when swapping between LCD and EVF?
* Would have loved some vertical flip in the rear LCD.
* A version with a 55(43mm) lens would be killer.
* A single, giant, rigid door makes topping up via USBC while in a bag more difficult.
* Buttons and dials make adding a thumb support basically impossible.
* ISO dial. Not easy to use and fiddly.
Yes, I'd love IBIS. No. It's not a flaw. It is what it is. A design choice. Overall though I really like the camera. More than I thought I might.
p.70 #15 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Also I just can't get the filter adapter ring. They should've made internal focusing lens 5mm longer with filter thread. Instead they provided a ring with diameter is not identical with lens so it can't accept the cap anymore. We don't know about the lens sealing, the necessity of the protection. I use it without protector indoor, and screw on the protector with hood outside, what is quite bothersome because first I have to unscrew the small ring first (one day I'll lost it). I agree this is the most silly solution I've ever experienced. Best option maybe just leave on the adapter ring with UV filter all time and get a cap fitting on the adapter ring. Also I think slimmer ring would be enough because the lens barely expands when focusing, maybe 2-3mm movement.
I like the original strap (with a bit use it gets softer), but I'd like small rotating clips instead of the rings.
I'd prefer a bigger joystick (like on A7rV) instead of that small nipple.
When I set RAW+Jpeg and set saving jpegs on slot 2, on playback I have to switch to slot 2 in playback menu every time checking focus on jpegs. I don't know the solution, only sticking to write raw+jpeg on same card.
Capture One just don't want to read from camera, I have to copy raws to my computer and import from there. It's refering to tethering setting (I use it auto USB).
The LCD tilting arm and hinge should be a bit more robust. I like the thin size, but when i pull the screen from the side, it comes out a bit uneven, but it's not a huge deal.
p.70 #16 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Gordon, I have a question on the joystick. I found it very hard to use it esp in the menus. I saw in dpreview some say it is similar to GFX100 camera and another saying his second camera has a better joystick ctrl, so I don't know if there is any QC issue or maybe different expectations....
Also Ricoh GW-4 0.75X wide angle adapter (49mm tread) works with GFX100RF around f/8-11 so it gives 21mm view... Teleconverters are working only in apsc 63mm and 80mm crops with some distortion...
p.70 #17 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
flash wrote:
You can't force a peak design strap anchor into the strap lug holes. First camera ever I couldn't get a PD anchor onto. I've gone off rope straps.
Did you slip some floss through the PD strap first and use that to pull it through? I've gotten a few done that way that seemed impossible.
p.70 #18 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
+1 with the floss trick. All my Fujis are tough to pull this off to the point I feel like I’m gonna break the camera. I usually use a very small ring then attach PD anchor to that. Another option is track down older slimmer PD anchors.
*hot shoe thumb grip, seeing some pop up on EBay so imagine JJC and Smallrig will figure it out.
*regarding large file sizes … I’m Getting 95mb files in lossless compressed. My Q2 spits out 85mb DNGs. My A7CR around 125mb raw files 🤣
p.70 #19 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
Did you slip some floss through the PD strap first and use that to pull it through? I've gotten a few done that way that seemed impossible.
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Malick80 wrote:
+1 with the floss trick. All my Fujis are tough to pull this off to the point I feel like I’m gonna break the camera. I usually use a very small ring then attach PD anchor to that. Another option is track down older slimmer PD anchors.
*hot shoe thumb grip, seeing some pop up on EBay so imagine JJC and Smallrig will figure it out.
*regarding large file sizes … I’m Getting 95mb files in lossless compressed. My Q2 spits out 85mb DNGs. My A7CR around 125mb raw files 🤣
Sure did. Tried floss and fishing line. Both break before the anchor gets through. Hole is just too small, unfortunately.
Might raid the drawer and see if I have any of the old type.
p.70 #20 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
serhan_ wrote:
Gordon, I have a question on the joystick. I found it very hard to use it esp in the menus. I saw in dpreview some say it is similar to GFX100 camera and another saying his second camera has a better joystick ctrl, so I don't know if there is any QC issue or maybe different expectations....
Also Ricoh GW-4 0.75X wide angle adapter (49mm tread) works with GFX100RF around f/8-11 so it gives 21mm view... Teleconverters are working only in apsc 63mm and 80mm crops with some distortion...
No. It’s not as good as the GFX100ii. And that’s not a really high bar. As I said above I’ll put a dot of Sugru on it and it’ll be much better. I do this on quite a few cameras.
Not bothered about converters, personally. I’d just carry my 100Si or X2D. I see the appeal for some. Just not for me. And I’d have to use that stupid filter adaptor thing which makes the camera big enough I may as well just use the Hasselblad.
