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Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread

  
 
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p.64 #1 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


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May 03, 2025 at 04:08 PM
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p.64 #2 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Lifeinpictures wrote:
I agree that 1/20 is completely unrealistic. I was just having a little fun while programming my camera. I wanted to how blurry the pictures were in low light.
I also a few other things that I am in the midst off, so taking a few test shots was a nice break.

I was,just so surprised that I got so many keepers at 1/20. I really expected everything to be blurry, but that leaf shutter can surprise me sometimes.

I expect to be using 1/125 most of the time,and living with the consequences that come with elevated ISOs.

I knew what I was getting
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Given that a prime use of this camera is for traveling light, I interpret what you are saying to those waiting for their cameras is that in low light you can reliably capture images that would look good in their vacation album and with improved shooting environments you have a full 100Mpix of resolution to produce wall art of your best images. Shooting 100Mpix is way overkill for most of what I take and how I display most images, but for the few images that have extreme crops, or large prints to be viewed at close distances, it does improve upon the images shot with my A7CR.



May 03, 2025 at 04:13 PM
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p.64 #3 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread




I have the gfx100rf now in use for almost 4 weeks and can assure you that the IQ is on par with my gfx100Sii and 20-35/4 or 32-64/4. I tested this several times on different occasions! Just wondering have you actually shot the RF?


Mine is on delivery. What I wrote on image quality was about some cameras having stab, brighter lens or better AF. So not exactly image quality, but those are assets that potentially improve images.

After taking a look at what sample images (raws included) are available, it looks like GFX100RF image quality is typical Fujifilm. No great news here, but the total package is attractive when thinking about getting MF size sensor in a compact size camera.




May 04, 2025 at 02:02 AM
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p.64 #4 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread




Mine is on delivery. What I wrote on image quality was about some cameras having stab, brighter lens or better AF. So not exactly image quality, but those are assets that potentially improve images.

After taking a look at what sample images (raws included) are available, it looks like GFX100RF image quality is typical Fujifilm. No great news here, but the total package is attractive when thinking about getting MF size sensor in a compact size camera.



I wonder how much Bresson or the f/64 club worried about stabilization, brighter lenses and AF?
I seem to recall that Galen Rowell shot with the slower f/3.5 Nikon, instead of the faster options that were available.


I do think that the salient point here is that folks who are looking for tools that have such features ... well, there is a certain part where the horse is pulling the cart vs. trying to get the cart to pull the horse. Not to suggest that those features have anything wrong with them, just that if I'm trying to pull a big cart, with a small horse (the intent of the ethos), there may be certain limitations I'll contend with. Pulling MF IQ in a small package is bringing (in this iteration) this set of "limited features". We can want / wish / expect for something different ... but, we're gonna just have to wait for that (if / when) to occur.

In the meantime, again, as to the lens being f/4 ... today's ISO penalty is so small ... and, we're only talking about (for the most part) a 1 stop difference to f/2.8 (point being, this is MF, not FF ... without a lot of lens options faster than f/2.8 anyway).

I think that when folks start talking about faster glass in the f/2 and wider, as preferred options, they're really talking about the difference between FF vs. MF options. If I keep my focus to the realm of MF options ... the options for "faster" lenses, drastically drops vs. FF offerings ... and the size / weight is notably different for fast ILC MF lenses. Although, I know folks are inclined to compare to FF, as FF is closing the gap between FF vs. MF, but in MF terms ... I think that 1 stop (even 2) difference in ISO for "those times, when" isn't a deal breaker.

One thing that I don't recall mentioned about the ability to mount up a fast lens (i.e. faster than f/2) is that most lenses when shot that wide open incur optical projection falloff in vignetting and corner sharpness. So, as a designer of the ethos for the "small package" MF IQ (i.e. X100 on steroids), do you lean into a faster / larger optic, or do you lean into the ISO with the smaller / slower optic. One addresses the volume of signal, the other address quality of signal / optical projection. For MF purposes (i.e. seeking quality gains vs. FF), it seems that the quid pro quo choice for the smaller / slower optic was deemed as "less antithetical" to that ethos.


Does that mean that the feature set is less than some folks want ... yup.






May 04, 2025 at 07:27 AM
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p.64 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread




I wonder how much Bresson or the f/64 club worried about stabilization, brighter lenses and AF?
I seem to recall that Galen Rowell shot with the slower f/3.5 Nikon, instead of the faster options that were available.

I do think that the salient point here is that folks who are looking for tools that have such features ... well, there is a certain part where the horse is pulling the cart vs. trying to get the cart to pull the horse. Not to suggest that those features have anything wrong with them, just that if I'm trying to pull a big cart,
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I hope you noticed that we do not disagree




May 04, 2025 at 03:05 PM
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p.64 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


For those still on the waitlist - I placed an order on BH 3/20 afternoon on pre-order day. 4/24 came around and still back ordered. Then somebody posted that Amazon was taking pre-orders whenever they close to restocking, so I placed one. Got my camera from Amazon yesterday 5/3. Have since canceled my BH order. So maybe keep an eye out on Amazon as they may pop up once in a while.


May 04, 2025 at 05:39 PM
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p.64 #7 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread




I hope you noticed that we do not disagree



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May 04, 2025 at 07:05 PM
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p.64 #8 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Update: everything I liked about the GFX100RF continues to be good and the two issues I noted have improved.
* The focus stick gets better after breaking-in; I haven’t used the camera a ton and it already feels much better.
* Capture One Mobile handles the RAW files without any hangups like I’m getting with Lightroom on my iPad Pro M4.



May 04, 2025 at 07:48 PM
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p.64 #9 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


The LF and Bresson crowd and Rowell had only film to contend with, and it masked a vast array of modern day issues that glare in the midday sun of the accuracy of digital processing. Rowell used E lenses to save weight, he should have taken a Fuji 645z with him (32 exposures in a 220 roll), not the postage size 135 film image Nikon provided.

The case for faster lenses in this era rests squarely on the very large percentage of the image given over to off-plane content. I use that term deliberately, because the focal plane is wafer thin with acceptable content either side of it.

Bokeh, it is often forgotten, is very much a modern concern, the term did not exist until Mike Johnston popularized it. But beautiful bokeh is now an intrinsic element of modern photography. Every maker has their own take on what exactly constitutes bokeh quality, and isn't that marvelous to have the choices?

So much of the best of photography rests on the existence of focus fade, transitions and deep bokeh fields. We've only just begun to appreciate it.



May 04, 2025 at 10:14 PM
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p.64 #10 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


philip_pj wrote:
So much of the best of photography rests on the existence of focus fade, transitions and deep bokeh fields.


There is certainly a set of folks who lean hard into that, and I can dig on it, too ... but, I'm not sure that I'd subscribe to the notion that so much of the best photography rests on it, nor that it is the criteria of the "best". Is it en vogue, sure why not. But I think that this premise is placing entirely too much emphasis on the tenets of bokeh.

Meanwhile, there are things like:

Composition
Content
Color
Line
Shape
Form
Relationships
Timing
Symmetry
Balance
Juxtapositions
Emotion
Motion
Tonality
Light
Dark
Contrast
Hue


And, likely a few others that escape me at the moment ... that some would suggest are more intrinsically meaningful to the best photography / image than bokeh.

So, yes Focus and the transitions from the plane of focus are also part of the image ... part ... how much is that required for the "best" photography, is highly subjective. Or, is the extreme use of bokeh a substitute for superb command of the others ... one that is achieved by using fast lenses?

IDK, placing that much emphasis on bokeh, seems kinda ... shallow.

YMMV




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RustyBug wrote:
I wonder how much Bresson or the f/64 club worried about stabilization, brighter lenses and AF?
I seem to recall that Galen Rowell shot with the slower f/3.5 Nikon, instead of the faster options that were available.


HCB did “worry” about lighter lenses and cameras, which is why he chose to forego using the larger format systems of his era and instead use a format that was largely considered to be too small and too low quality for “serious” photography. Yes, that’s was how lots of people felt about 35mm film cameras in that era.

But more significantly, he didn’t worry about stabilization and AF (or AE, etc), not did Galen Rowell because…

… those things largely did not exist on the equipment of the time. (I’d have to look closely, but my best hunch is that Rowell was using 35mm gear — I believe Nikon was his choice —— that had things like match-needle exposure and split prism manual focus aids. I suppose one might have challenged him by pointing out that HCB didn’t “need’ those things.)

It is undoubtedly true that one can make photographs with gear that doesn’t have typical modern features like AF, IS, AE, etc. Likewise, it is true that one could drive cross-country in a Model A Ford, travel to Europe by ship, forego the use of cellular phones, carry traveler’s checks instead of credit cards, heat your home with a fireplace, and carry water from the well in a bucket.

You could also use glass plates instead of film. And you could even make some fine photographs that way.

I can tell you with certainty that the majorly of past photographers (though, honestly, HCB might have been at least a bit of an exception) would embrace the improvements to modern photographic gear and technologies had they been available. While some modern folks look backwards and imagine some lovely “purity” or something about that earlier work, the folks in those earlier times did not see it that way. They.

(If you’ve been around photography for a while, you have actually watched this process take place with quite a few photographic luminaries. I personally know folks who were Ansel protégés, and they — with almost no exceptions — have moved from the manual LF film gear that was common back then to the modern digital gear that all of us use today.)

No one questions that fact that we can make good photographs with a camera that has a single 35mm focal length, a maximum f/4 aperture, no IBIS, etc. What some may well question is whether foregoing those useful and easily available photographic technologies for a different technology (the 100MP 33 x 44 sensor) is going to be a plus, a minus, or neutral for photographs… and reasonable photographers may conclude that the theoretical plus of better IQ from that sensor is outweighed by the plus of larger aperture, smaller size, and features like IS on alternative cameras.

As you point out, HCB — who did use and ILC — seemed to do quite well without modern improvements like… 100MP 33x44 formats.



May 05, 2025 at 03:03 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
HCB did “worry” about lighter lenses and cameras, which is why he chose to forego using the larger format systems of his era and instead use a format that was largely considered to be too small and too low quality for “serious” photography. Yes, that’s was how lots of people felt about 35mm film cameras in that era.

But more significantly, he didn’t worry about stabilization and AF (or AE, etc), not did Galen Rowell because…

… those things largely did not exist on the equipment of the time. (I’d have to look closely, but my best hunch is that Rowell was
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Understood.

For clarity ... I'm not playing the "purist" card ... just the fact that there are lots of folks who get along just fine without "all the features" (i.e. they don't allow the absence of something to restrict them from doing what they do). Personally, I (can) carry M, Q and SL. Technology wise, that's one each with no stabilization, OIS, IBIS. Of the three, I easily shoot the M more often than I shoot those with the additional technology. And, as to the f/4 lens ... I routinely shoot at f/4-f/4.5, occasionally I'll push / pull it a 1/2 stop into the f/3.5 - f/5.6 or f/6.3 territory. f/8 and f/2.8 are rarely used. Bear in mind also, that even in FF, there are some WA lenses that are only f/3.8, not to mention the zooms that are f/4.

So, if it's a reasonable choice for folks to choose those "slower" lenses, instead of their larger options, I don't see any reason why f/4 on the 100RF is such a problem for folks to get their head around, that it is an option. Don't like it ... get the GFX 100 II with fast ILC glass and pack it instead, like folks have the option to buy that 70-200/2.8 instead of a 70-200/4 (with the accompanying size / weight / aperture quid pro quo).

So, while I'm well versed in the lack of IBIS, the lack of fast aperture and the lack of AF, those are the three things that are suggested as being so big of an issue ... well, I'm just not buying it, as being all that restrictive. It doesn't restrict me, and I'm a nobody. So, if someone is a "somebody" that's an "all that" photographer, I'm quite certain they have the skillset (technical and mental approach) to do good works with the GFX 100RF. Others, might find it requires them to shift their mindset a bit, in order to be rewarded with the ethos of the 100RF. Still others, won't get there for a bit. And, some others will never get there. There's no requisite to do so. If folks find this camera to be too restrictive for their temperament, lots of other options. For those who can appreciate it for what it is, rather than lament what it isn't ... we'll soon see the fruits of their good works. Check back in a year and see where things are.

YMMV




May 05, 2025 at 07:05 AM
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A key point from my post was: “… reasonable photographers may conclude that the theoretical plus of better IQ from that sensor is outweighed by the plus of larger aperture, smaller size, and features like IS on alternative cameras.”

That is it.



RustyBug wrote:
Understood.

For clarity ... I'm not playing the "purist" card ... just the fact that there are lots of folks who get along just fine without "all the features" (i.e. they don't allow the absence of something to restrict them from doing what they do). Personally, I (can) carry M, Q and SL. Technology wise, that's one each with no stabilization, OIS, IBIS. Of the three, I easily shoot the M more often than I shoot those with the additional technology. And, as to the f/4 lens ... I routinely shoot at f/4-f/4.5, occasionally I'll push / pull it a
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May 05, 2025 at 07:40 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
A key point from my post was: “… reasonable photographers may conclude that the theoretical plus of better IQ from that sensor is outweighed by the plus of larger aperture, smaller size, and features like IS on alternative cameras.”

That is it.




Which, of course ... cuts both ways.

Some folks carve wood with a chainsaw. Others, prefer to carve with a chisel.




May 05, 2025 at 08:26 PM
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p.64 #15 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread


Since I received it a couple of days ago, I thought I'd share a few shots I took today. I was able to make a small deviation on the way home to try it out. There's no particular story in these street shots—just experimentation to get familiar with Fuji/this camera.

A few notes:

• Over the past couple of years, I've primarily used the GR IIIx and A7CR.
• These were not developed in Lightroom but used in-camera “recipes” (size was reduced and ImageOptim used to facilitate embedding here). It's very unusual for me to not use Lightroom.
• I am 100% new to Fuji, so I mostly just played on my way home with zone focusing (unusual to use medium format for street photography...) and recipes to experiment and see how I can handle it on the fly.

Quick impressions:

Very fun to use. Leaf shutter, like on the Ricoh, is a joy. Do I miss the rendering of a Voigtlander 40 mm f1.2 or 28 mm f1.5? Sure. And their apertures? Sure again. Could I use IBIS? Perhaps, like 10% of the time. But is it very fun and has a good feeling when walking around? Yes. Absolutely. This easily feels like the most fun camera I've used, from an old analog Yashica to digital Canon or Panasonic.































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May 05, 2025 at 10:35 PM
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f/4 lens, mediocre AF and not having IS are not image quality issues, but they make GFX100RF less of an allround camera. That is not necessarily a problem.

We are far beyond the point where IQ was a real issue. Neither usability is a problem. For those looking for extreme usability and flexibility find a camera from Sony/Canon/Nikon ILC FF camera line-up - the IQ comprise will be very small. GFX100RF is different. It lives in a niche where one must certain embrace limitations and make the best out of small size and inconspicuousness. GFX100RF is both a fun camera and a tool for creativity, and that is fine if used right.

gdanmitchell wrote:
A key point from my post was: “… reasonable photographers may conclude that the theoretical plus of better IQ from that sensor is outweighed by the plus of larger aperture, smaller size, and features like IS on alternative cameras.”

That is it.







May 06, 2025 at 01:07 AM
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Whether or not you’ll be satisfied with the AF depends on your context. This isn’t a Sony A1, but the AF in my finding is superior to the Q3. To experiment with it I shot a few bursts of my kids playing on a swing the other day, and while the hit rate didn’t match my Z8, I didn’t expect it to and found it more than good enough. Certainly well over 75% of my shots were in focus. I don’t really plan to use the camera for that kind of shot, but it’s good to know it can do decently if I need it to. I think it’d be more than adequate for most street or documentary or travel shooting. I could see using it for some of my theatre work. I wouldn’t shoot a basketball game with it.

I’m looking forward to traveling with mine this summer. Most likely paired with my M and a couple lenses for a really small and capable kit.



May 06, 2025 at 11:30 AM
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Gordon's ICELAND Photo Trip
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May 06, 2025 at 05:23 PM
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Since I do little other than a lot of 'street or documentary or travel shooting', I cannot agree that 'it’d be more than adequate for most street or documentary or travel shooting.' I'd say no more than 10-15% of my efforts happen at f4 or smaller.

The value of the camera is more to do with the kinds of images and the kinds of light conditions you can work within in your photography and, more importantly, what you are prepared to do without, or carry another camera and lens(es). Gordon Laing does a good job of providing actual settings he tried to use and the results he found.



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You may agree that your list 'that some would suggest are more intrinsically meaningful' apply equally to those whose priorities are different. You set up a false dichotomy here.

'Shallow' eh? And while I'm at it, I really dislike the weasel words 'leaning into' to point to a person's difference of opinion being somehow unbalanced or less valuable. Stick with the rights and wrongs of the opinion itself please, not the personal that is behind it. In fact, looking at it again, I'll do the Ignore thing right now. No more replies will be good for you as well.



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