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Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH

  
 
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p.3 #1 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


Can’t wait to see the APO 35mm f/2 ASPH in action. Hopefully, the performance is solid like all their past lenses. I wonder if they’ll experiment with different materials like they did with the 8 Element.

With the design being similar to the APO, there’s a chance the same mounting issues might occur on some cameras, especially certain L-mount models. The protruding glass element, like on the LLL 28mm lens, could be a problem again.



Mar 19, 2025 at 01:32 AM
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p.3 #2 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


Mounting issues? Can you elaborate on that?


Mar 19, 2025 at 02:48 AM
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p.3 #3 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


Still anticipating the announcement for the S21 😬


Mar 19, 2025 at 03:05 AM
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p.3 #4 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


tzhang4284 wrote:
we’ll see if they dare to release an optical block diagram for the lens.


They’ve published lens diagrams for of all their “knockoff” lenses so far. So daring! It’s almost like they actually wanted you to see their good work and to provide transparency.



Mar 19, 2025 at 07:18 AM
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p.3 #5 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


I believe it only impact those adapting to L mount cameras with a sensor guard, the protruding portion prevents it from being mounted.




Mar 19, 2025 at 07:48 AM
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p.3 #6 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


@LightLensLab, could you share more details about the new lenses and their body and optical designs, particularly the new Light Lab Lens 35mm f/2 APO ASPH.? Thank you!


Mar 19, 2025 at 02:08 PM
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p.3 #7 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


@LightLensLab
When will be available LLL Z21 50/1.5 for order and what will be its price?



Mar 19, 2025 at 02:13 PM
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p.3 #8 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


https://lightlenslab.com/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-50mm-f-1-5-z21-in-prototype-stage

Z21 Announcement



Mar 20, 2025 at 11:27 PM
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p.3 #9 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


LightLensLab wrote:
https://lightlenslab.com/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-50mm-f-1-5-z21-in-prototype-stage

Z21 Announcement


No comments on any of the other topics in this thread? Be nice to see you respond to any questions/concerns about the direction of the brand with the 35 APO instead of a drive by product page-

Thanks-




Mar 20, 2025 at 11:36 PM
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p.3 #10 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


What is the size on the Z21? Length and diameter, weight, and filter size?


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p.3 #11 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


RustyRus wrote:
No comments on any of the other topics in this thread? Be nice to see you respond to any questions/concerns about the direction of the brand with the 35 APO instead of a drive by product page-

Thanks-



Hi, I went to sleep after publishing the announcement as it was late.

Fred reached out to me a few days ago, but I was not able to comment due to the said announcement, I will copy it here:

In regard to the 35mm f/2 APO ASPH. Please be aware that it is a very early prototype and there are several major changes to the design of the lens.

The 35mm f/2 APO ASPH is an entirely new design. The body design is derived from the design of the 35mm f/1.4 ASPH "11873" and it has no connection to the 35mm f/2 APO Summicron. The only element that is inspired by Leica is the lens hood.

Optically, it is also different from Leica's design, however it is inevitable to be a comparison between Leica, since we consider the 35mm f/2 APO Summicron to be the best lens Leica has ever made.

Best



Mar 21, 2025 at 12:18 PM
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p.3 #12 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


Nick YR wrote:
What is the size on the Z21? Length and diameter, weight, and filter size?


As our development blog states, specifications will be posted on May 21st.

I received the prototype copy and the filter size is E49.

Cheers!



Mar 21, 2025 at 12:20 PM
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p.3 #13 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


@LightLensLab

The original lens Angenieux 50mm f1.5 S21 has a 51.5mm filter thread. I expected LLL to make the Z21 50/1.5 a 52mm thread. Will using the 49mm filter increase vignetting on the GFX camera? We will appreciate it if you do a vignetting test (with and without filter) with the GFX camera.

When shooting with a filter on the LLL 50mm f1.2 "1966" lens, vignetting increases (on FF camera), which is very unpleasant.

_https://www.l-camera-forum.com/uploads/monthly_2024_01/vignetting.png.7839e6c5801fc9e40e28a695321c683f.png



Mar 21, 2025 at 01:13 PM
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p.3 #14 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


LightLensLab wrote:
https://lightlenslab.com/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-50mm-f-1-5-z21-in-prototype-stage

Z21 Announcement


I want one.

Well, someone had to say it. I’m curious about that one and furthermore if it covers more or less a GFX sensor.



Mar 21, 2025 at 01:32 PM
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p.3 #15 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH




Listopad44 wrote:
@LightLensLab@

The original lens Angenieux 50mm f1.5 S21 has a 51.5mm filter thread. I expected LLL to make the Z21 50/1/5 a 52mm thread. Will using the 49mm filter increase vignetting on the GFX camera?

When shooting with a filter on the LLL 50mm f1.2 "1966" lens, vignetting increases (on FF camera), which is very unpleasant.







Sorry I mispoke, after some measurement the filter thread on the prototype copy is 52mm!



Mar 21, 2025 at 01:39 PM
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p.3 #16 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


LightLensLab wrote:
Sorry I mispoke, after some measurement the filter thread on the prototype copy is 52mm!


A very welcome change!




Mar 21, 2025 at 03:54 PM
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p.3 #17 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


LightLensLab wrote:
Fred reached out to me a few days ago, but I was not able to comment due to the said announcement, I will copy it here:

In regard to the 35mm f/2 APO ASPH. Please be aware that it is a very early prototype and there are several major changes to the design of the lens.

The 35mm f/2 APO ASPH is an entirely new design. The body design is derived from the design of the 35mm f/1.4 ASPH "11873" and it has no connection to the 35mm f/2 APO Summicron. The only element that is inspired by Leica is the lens
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Thank you for clarifying this!



Mar 21, 2025 at 03:55 PM
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p.3 #18 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


LightLensLab wrote:
Hi, I went to sleep after publishing the announcement as it was late.

Fred reached out to me a few days ago, but I was not able to comment due to the said announcement, I will copy it here:

In regard to the 35mm f/2 APO ASPH. Please be aware that it is a very early prototype and there are several major changes to the design of the lens.

The 35mm f/2 APO ASPH is an entirely new design. The body design is derived from the design of the 35mm f/1.4 ASPH "11873" and it has no connection to the 35mm f/2 APO
...Show more

So a totally new design derived from or inspired by Leica designs

Either way thanks for clarifying- Hope its a hit for you





Mar 21, 2025 at 05:03 PM
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p.3 #19 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


RustyRus wrote:
So a totally new design derived from or inspired by Leica designs

Either way thanks for clarifying- Hope its a hit for you


I'm more curious about how it will compare to the Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar, since the LLL will be much smaller.



Mar 21, 2025 at 08:22 PM
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p.3 #20 · Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.5 S21 and APO 35mm f/2 ASPH


Thank you for all the clarifications, and sorry my bad, missed the May 21st spec date


Mar 21, 2025 at 08:28 PM
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