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p.2 #1 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


AS of now Fred, all Mac issues appear fixed. Those that I encountered...Let me check the PC's
Dan

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Feb 13, 2025 at 03:35 PM
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p.2 #2 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


All my Windows PC's appear fine now with my listed problems Fred!
Thanks!!
Dan



Feb 13, 2025 at 03:41 PM
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p.2 #3 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


Now I noticed that WA is not in logical order and no images to vote on.......
MA has some issues also.....
Dan



Feb 13, 2025 at 03:52 PM
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p.2 #4 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


mudnut wrote:
This is minor, but I can't seem to find a place to look up my B&S rating and feedback. It used to be under Profile.


Unless I’m overlooking something, feedback only appears when browsing the Buy and Sell boards. It doesn’t show on other boards like this one.



Feb 13, 2025 at 03:55 PM
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p.2 #5 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


EDIT: when initially editing this post the text was all run together in the text entry box. After posting it's all spread out?

I appreciate all site/forum improvements made.

Thank You.

Please excuse any editing issues with this post as strange things are happening on my end.



Firefox 115.20.0esr (64-bit) -- Win 7 Pro_x64 -- Desktop -- logged IN. Plugins all disabled/paused.



While typing in the "Quick Reply box" the {enter} key does not drop cursor down to next line? Also {backspace} and {spacebar} keys are sometimes lagged or just don't work on first press. If I copy the above text and paste it into Notepad I see all the spaces and {enter} presses. It seems like message editing/entry is completely "server side" and any server lag effects message entry?

Sorry can't explain things better or if it's all issues on my end.

Thank You.



Feb 13, 2025 at 05:42 PM
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p.2 #6 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


Also: I haven't logged in for a while and had to reset PW. No problem, understandable.







The email address is not displayed, just "". I understand not displaying the whole address for security/SPAM reasons but just looks like something went wrong. Perhaps H*****@Y****.com (or whatever) instead of just "". Thanks.



Feb 13, 2025 at 05:51 PM
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p.2 #7 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


The power went out about four am, when it came back on the whole layout had changed! 


Feb 13, 2025 at 08:08 PM
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p.2 #8 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


I definitely understand needing to update the site for SEO. Here are a few suggestions (putting on my software developer hat): 

1) Shrink the verticle height of the sticky header or make it vertically smaller on scroll, like the header on Google Search. It takes up a good amount of space on smaller screens/windows.
2) Use a neutral gray (RGB are the same value) to match the other gray colors on the site Instead of the current yellowish gray. 
3) Use a CSS backdrop filter blur to make content behind the sticky header less distracting
4) Use a darker background on the new hover menus. It's fairly jarring to be on a darkish theme website and suddenly on hover a white dialog appears. 
5) Clicking the What's New header brings you to an error page if you are not logged in. 

Fred, if you find these types of suggestions helpful, feel free to DM me. I can dive in deeper if I know the direction you are trying to go in. This site has taught me so much over the years. I don't mind providing some free suggestions in return.



Feb 13, 2025 at 08:08 PM
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p.2 #9 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


madNbad wrote:
The power went out about four am, when it came back on the whole layout had changed! 


Me too, on the opposite coast. How weird!




Feb 13, 2025 at 08:37 PM
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p.2 #10 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


I could immediately tell there were beneath-the-hood changes beyond the new Header: everything is so snappy now! Great work!

It's gonna take a minute to get used to FM no longer being one of the last bastions of the old "information dense, drop shadows and rounded edges" era of web design that I prefer to the modern "everything is big and flat" era, but time marches on.

I agree with what @DWOfPaul said, and I have one nitpick of my own to add: I think it feels a bit off-balance or "unfinished" that the pull-down for Buy & Sell doesn't have a sub-header (with the red underscore) like the Forum and What's New ones. Even though there's only one category on that one, so the sub-header would just be the words "Buy & Sell" repeated, I think that'd make visual sense.

Also, I know you haven't made many changes to the styling of the forums themselves with this update, but I'm gonna use this thread to bring up again the one I really want to see: Search Results page has a too-narrow fixed width that, particularly on Buy & Sell with the mandatory prefixes, can show too few characters of the thread titles. Just letting that stretch like the main forum pages would be a really nice QoL improvement.



Feb 13, 2025 at 08:57 PM
 


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Oh, also, what if the black bar got a good bit skinnier but the aperture logo hung down below it, so that the aperture logo wouldn't have to shrink as much (which, I presume, is the reason the bar has so much neutral space currently)? I'm pretty sure I've seen sites use transparency to pull that off.


Feb 13, 2025 at 09:05 PM
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p.2 #12 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


All the columns are very narrow and makes each post very very long. Buttons extend past the framing across the top of each post.


Feb 13, 2025 at 09:32 PM
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p.2 #13 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


Fred Miranda wrote:
Is the bump button / Countdown issue on the Buy and Sell forum fixed. Please confirm.


Bump is working now (windows, firefox 135.0)



Feb 13, 2025 at 11:39 PM
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p.2 #14 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


In the "latest posts" lists on the right side, I used to be able to tell which items I had visited in the past. IIRC, visited items were a different shade of yellow/orange than unvisited items. Now all the items in those lists are white, and there doesn't seem to be any way for me to see which ones I have visited in the past.


Feb 14, 2025 at 12:53 AM
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p.2 #15 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


The quick reply box can no longer be resized on the bottom right corner. It’s an inch and a half high on my 27″ screen.

Safari 18.3/macOS Sequoia 15.3.1 (both the latest version).



Feb 14, 2025 at 07:16 AM
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p.2 #16 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


The buttons when you edit or cancel a post need to be clearer and need a border like the previous version.

The button colors blend in with the rest of the post, so they should be a different shade of gray.







Feb 14, 2025 at 08:23 AM
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p.2 #17 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


Hey Fred,

This might not be a big deal, but the button was more pronounced and not flat looking like on this new version. Also there was a countdown on the previous version:









Feb 14, 2025 at 08:28 AM
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p.2 #18 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


cosmom3 wrote:
Hey Fred,

This might not be a big deal, but the button was more pronounced and not flat looking like on this new version. Also there was a countdown on the previous version:



I will work on that.





Feb 14, 2025 at 10:38 AM
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p.2 #19 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


This problem occurs in the Mobile version on my Android phone but not on my Windows laptop, don't recall seeing this problem yesterday.


When I'm in Buy & Sell Photo Gear I cannot change the search filters. When I enter Buy & Sell it remembers the last search filter criteria I used (good!!) but when I change the search filter from WTB to FS and click "Apply Filter" I still get WTB search results.

Edited on Feb 18, 2025 at 04:59 PM · View previous versions



Feb 14, 2025 at 11:39 AM
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p.2 #20 · FM Site Header Update – A Needed Change


The redesigns are helpful, and I appreciate that they are subtle. But why they don't seem to have addressed a small annoyance that has persisted over the past several years - I am asked to log in almost every time when returning to the FM website. Is that intentional? Why not use a persistent cookie to save the hassle?


Feb 14, 2025 at 12:23 PM
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