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p.16 #1 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I have ordered the e-mount version. I will be checking it on a modded and a stock Sony sensor so we can finally understand what Thypoch is doing.

If I like the lens and it performs well on Sony, I will probably order a 28/50 combo for cine use.


Thank you!



Oct 23, 2025 at 01:31 PM
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p.16 #2 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


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Along the Seine.


That’s a lovely travel image, Eric, it gives a sense of being there.



Oct 23, 2025 at 01:48 PM
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p.16 #3 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


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Oct 23, 2025 at 03:30 PM
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p.16 #4 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I have ordered the e-mount version. I will be checking it on a modded and a stock Sony sensor so we can finally understand what Thypoch is doing.

If I like the lens and it performs well on Sony, I will probably order a 28/50 combo for cine use.


If I recall correctly you were the poster who mentioned the E-mount version of the CV 28mm f1.5 wasn't as nice as your VM version.

I received my e-mount CV 28mm f1.5 today and I'm looking to replace it with something else. Since there's no APO version for e-mount, and CV dissappointed me so much with that nokton, and with the sale from Thypoch ... I'm looking at this. Looking forward to your thoughts on this... no pressure



Oct 24, 2025 at 01:13 PM
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p.16 #5 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


Yogifi wrote:
If I recall correctly you were the poster who mentioned the E-mount version of the CV 28mm f1.5 wasn't as nice as your VM version.

I received my e-mount CV 28mm f1.5 today and I'm looking to replace it with something else. Since there's no APO version for e-mount, and CV dissappointed me so much with that nokton, and with the sale from Thypoch ... I'm looking at this. Looking forward to your thoughts on this... no pressure


That was indeed me. I really liked the M version because of the size, character and ergonomics. I did not like the performance on a Sony sensor stack. So, when CV announced the e-mount version, I sold my m-mount copy and purchased the e-mount. I never had both lenses at the same time.

If you look at the reviews, I think you’ll see a weaker mid-zone up till about 2.4 to 2.8. I also tested this and posted crops which you can see on the original 28/1.5 m-mount review by Fred. It is just part of the lens design. Again, I haven’t tested the e-mount, but I believe the optical weaknesses will be the same whether you’re shooting M or E unless the lens has been tweaked in someway.

I think your expectations are probably too high. This is a lens that exhibits some field curvature, a good amount of Longitudinal CA, and a weaker periphery than the center until stopped down a bit. Contrast wide open in the central part of the frame should be quite good though. Did you formally check to see if you have a decentered copy?

The e version was just a bit too big for my tastes, and I disliked the long focus throw. I also missed the focus tab. And I didn’t like the e-mount enough to shoot it a lot like the m, but I did feel like it was a bit smoother structurally or a bit different contrast wise. Having said that, I did not test the lens systematically to determine that. I also did not shoot the lens that much because of what I said above.

But, to be honest, I think you should prepare to be disappointed on the Simera 28/1.4 front. I highly doubt it has been tweaked to work better on Sony despite it was released for Sony. Here is a screenshot from the comment section of Bastian’s review:







Oct 24, 2025 at 01:49 PM
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p.16 #6 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


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But, to be honest, I think you should prepare to be disappointed on the Simera 28/1.4 front. I highly doubt it has been tweaked to work better on Sony despite it was released for Sony. Here is a screenshot from the comment section of Bastian’s review:


Not being optimized for anything but M has been known for a while. Same with the Z version.



Oct 24, 2025 at 01:59 PM
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p.16 #7 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


RoamingScott wrote:
Not being optimized for anything but M has been known for a while. Same with the Z version.


Are you talking about on the 28 specifically? Because the 50/1.5 Simera C was tweaked for Sony.



Oct 24, 2025 at 02:05 PM
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p.16 #8 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


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That was indeed me. I really liked the M version because of the size, character and ergonomics. I did not like the performance on a Sony sensor stack. So, when CV announced the e-mount version, I sold my m-mount copy and purchased the e-mount. I never had both lenses at the same time.

If you look at the reviews, I think you’ll see a weaker mid-zone up till about 2.4 to 2.8. I also tested this and posted crops which you can see on the original 28/1.5 m-mount review by Fred. It is just part of the lens design. Again,
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Thank you very much, nehemiahphoto. I did check to see if it was decentered (first thing I did) but with how poor the performance is at f1.5 and with my a7cii, I could hardly tell either way to be fully honest.
Contrast and performance in the center seems fine. Around the midfield, even at f5.6 if I pay attention there, it looks ... not great, or even good. Honestly, every image just looks like something isn't quite right with the light, as if it's not as clean as it should be.

I think you're right, I went in expecting close to the nokton 50mm f1.2 in 28mm focal length for some reason, maybe with some more structure to the out of focus areas, but it's just not even close and it's the parts that are in-focus that cause me the most issue. Just doesn't look like premium image quality, like the 50 does (outside of the glow).

This is a lens that exhibits some field curvature, a good amount of Longitudinal CA, and a weaker periphery than the center until stopped down a bit.

I'll double check what's said about the 28mm APO and wait I guess, will try to make do with the sigma 35mm f2.
Would rather not go xf18mm f1.4 if I can avoid it, keeping my fujis small. But I do like 28mm with apsc with the larger depth of field, let's see.

Sorry for the tangent folks, I'm still looking forward to your thoughts on this one though.




Oct 24, 2025 at 02:07 PM
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p.16 #9 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


nehemiahphoto wrote:
Are you talking about on the 28 specifically? Because the 50/1.5 Simera C was tweaked for Sony.


yeah.



Oct 24, 2025 at 02:07 PM
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p.16 #10 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


RoamingScott wrote:
yeah.


Have you seen any actual testing to confirm?



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p.16 #11 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


I couldn’t help myself. For $369 I couldn’t pass up the Thypoch 35/1.4 at BH. I’m going to test it against my Voigtlander 35/1.2 SE.

Now, about this discussion about the 28mm being tweaked for Sony. I don’t believe it is. And guess what. It doesn’t matter! 🙂. The images I’ve posted and the other terrific images posted in this thread are all anyone needs to know about the quality of output of the 28/1.4. I’m 100% with Philip on this issue: these lenses produce an overall image that is very pleasing. THAT’S what I’m interested in. I have never once in my life looked at a beautiful image on this site and then peered into the corners! Folks, it’s the image that counts, not the corners. And the corners on this e-mount 28/1.4 are perfectly fine at f4 and smaller.

This lens is a little jewel and it shouldn’t be passed up because of some completely unimportant lack of corner sharpness at f1.4. Look at the images it produces. Do you like them? Are they different in a pleasing way from other “better” lenses? Do you have $369? I paid $500 for mine and it’s worth every penny.



Oct 24, 2025 at 03:06 PM
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p.16 #12 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


I'm not overly fussed about corner sharpness all that much ... the nokton e-mount though, it's like it's using cheap glass an optician might put out to save some cash and hope you don't notice the light isn't quite right.

It's just funky, crunchy, how nehemiahphoto put it a while ago, was the right description. Funky and contrasty.


^^ this was initial impression on a bright sunny day, next day with clouds was better, I suspect CA related but not sure really -- just wanted to drop this edit for clarification. I was really not happy with it after, you could probably tell.

The pics from this thread do look wonderful still and with the sale I'm very tempted to just pick it up anyway to compare for myself.

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Oct 24, 2025 at 03:10 PM
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p.16 #13 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


mudlake wrote:
I couldn’t help myself. For $369 I couldn’t pass up the Thypoch 35/1.4 at BH. I’m going to test it against my Voigtlander 35/1.2 SE.

Now, about this discussion about the 28mm being tweaked for Sony. I don’t believe it is. And guess what. It doesn’t matter! 🙂. The images I’ve posted and the other terrific images posted in this thread are all anyone needs to know about the quality of output of the 28/1.4. I’m 100% with Philip on this issue: these lenses produce an overall image that is very pleasing. THAT’S what I’m interested in. I have never
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First of all, congrats on your new lens. I’m sure you will enjoy it!

I am not really worried about the corners on the 28/1.4. Deep corners are never a worry of mine, especially wide open, unless I’m shooting some very demanding landscape, which I no longer frequently do. I shoot many lenses which are optically far inferior and fussier than this Thypoch, needing more careful operation. What I want to know is the mid-zone performance, which is where I often place my subjects and I want to shoot wide open. I also would not use the lens in the way that you and Philip have posted pictures of.

It is good that you and Philip like the rendering—to my mind it is pretty modern and on the boring side. But that is preferential, and I’m sure some of my preferences for photos would be disagreeable for some. It’s wonderful we all have options.

Having said all that, we have very few options for fast 28mm’s. And while I like the CV 28/1.5 on M, I was less excited on E. I am interested in the 28 1.4 for cine use, where the demands are different and where I can couple it with a similar lens in the Simera 50 (which I like).



Oct 24, 2025 at 03:42 PM
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p.16 #14 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


nehemiahphoto wrote:
First of all, congrats on your new lens. I’m sure you will enjoy it!

I am not really worried about the corners on the 28/1.4. Deep corners are never a worry of mine, especially wide open, unless I’m shooting some very demanding landscape, which I no longer frequently do. I shoot many lenses which are optically far inferior and fussier than this Thypoch, needing more careful operation. What I want to know is the mid-zone performance, which is where I often place my subjects and I want to shoot wide open. I also would not use the lens in the way
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Have you considered the e-mount 28/1.4 Simera-c cine lens? That may be the perfect one for you.



Oct 24, 2025 at 04:02 PM
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p.16 #15 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


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Oct 24, 2025 at 04:03 PM
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p.16 #16 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


mudlake wrote:
Have you considered the e-mount 28/1.4 Simera-c cine lens? That may be the perfect one for you.


Yup—I tried the 50/1.5 and liked it. If this version performs well on a stock Sony, I’ll be the cine 28/1.5 version. Sadly, I doubt it will perform as well.



Oct 24, 2025 at 05:36 PM
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p.16 #17 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


Time to start carrying two bodies so this lens and the Nokton 40 can stay glued to each.

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Oct 25, 2025 at 10:43 AM
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p.16 #18 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


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Oct 25, 2025 at 07:14 PM
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p.16 #19 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


Looking forward to finding out what the damage is on E-mount as a result of the lack of sensor stack corrections in the E-mount version. I'm curious how it compares to the Voigtländer which, while corrected for the stack differences, makes compromises on image quality to achieve a compact size.


Oct 26, 2025 at 12:34 AM
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p.16 #20 · Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4 E-mount


More showing the level of retained detail inside the bokeh field. It becomes a valuable element in 'image design' (which is what 'composition' really is).




focus is on the small plate, and I got the figures blocking right






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crops hold up well






Example of image design, I 'saw' it is the EVF, can only happen when you see how the lens treats the scene.




Oct 26, 2025 at 01:16 AM
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