Phillip - how's corner sharpness at f/8? Rendering wide open is superb, as we've seen, I'm curious if Thypoch has created a really well balanced lens, rendering optimized wide open, sharpness optmized stopped down.
I think modern lenses have gotten so good, I've swung a bit and I'm happy for a lens that isn't bitingly sharp or contrasty wide open, but becomes so stopping down.
Has anybody ascertained from any reliable sources if this 28 1.4 e-mount version has been tweaked to perform optimally on the thicker Sony sensor stack?
I’m interested in picking up the 28/50 combo for cine, but I would like to know if I should get the e or m versions which will depend on how the 28 performs on Sony cameras.
Dave, it depends on your standards, they don't need to do much more than gradual fade for me to be happy with that aspect. I don't pixel peep corners unless I see a problem, using 24/36/42 mp sensors. (The 3D effect drags your eye into the frame's middle section.)
As to landscapes, I use f5.6 to f7 if I have no close content, and f8 if regular front-to-back, and f11 if a lot of front-to-back. When people talk 'landscapes', I imagine they mean somewhat distant content at the nearest, from a ridge top or whatever. With a 28mm you otherwise get a lot of foreground.
I'll post below two of the former kind, and two with near content. If you are after near to perfect even IQ across the frame in a mostly landscape usage lens, it may not be for you, but I'll try to help you here. I think this more Zeiss-like need is going to be met by the CV 28/2 APO.
I'm away from my Photoshop PC, but I can do the corner inspection in ten days or so. More of an issue might be vignette, similar with all fast 28s - I trim a bit if needed after ACR. Where I shoot, all full-frame lenses vignette a bit at all usable apertures (!) I checked these below for a lack of cropping. I'm delighted with the lens at f8 because I did not know what to expect.
Travel photography is made so much easier with versatile lenses, ones that are equally at home in dim cafes as they are in open country and shooting people in the street. 350 grams and this one does it all, for me at least. This is the crew at the Indian Coffee House in Shimla, opened in 1936. Phone addiction is in full cry in India, sadly. All ages too.
I came across Marc Alhadeff's video review of the 28/1.4, and I think it's worth a quick look for two reasons: the lovely round bokeh balls in the beginning, and the consistent sense of dimensionality (3D) this one produces, everywhere. It all looks so...natural.
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Has anybody ascertained from any reliable sources if this 28 1.4 e-mount version has been tweaked to perform optimally on the thicker Sony sensor stack?
I’m interested in picking up the 28/50 combo for cine, but I would like to know if I should get the e or m versions which will depend on how the 28 performs on Sony cameras.
I've been wondering the same thing since the M mount cine lenses would allow me to use them on more bodies as opposed to E mount where I'm limited to Sony and Nikon. I borrow/trade old lenses from friends shooting M, L, EF, GF, X, and other mounts.
Passing on that Thypoch has a sale on, from now until December 3. They send me email on occasion because I bought an adapter and the 75mm from them, and they want to know how they went.
So the sale covers all lenses, is available at their dealers. The 28/1.4 for example, is $399 for the mirrorless mounts, and $599 for the M version. Nice to see that reduction, I don't know why the M-mount should cost so much more. Still does, but it's more reasonable now.
philip_pj wrote:
Passing on that Thypoch has a sale on, from now until December 3. They send me email on occasion because I bought an adapter and the 75mm from them, and they want to know how they went.
So the sale covers all lenses, is available at their dealers. The 28/1.4 for example, is $399 for the mirrorless mounts, and $599 for the M version. Nice to see that reduction, I don't know why the M-mount should cost so much more. Still does, but it's more reasonable now.
The E-mount lenses are actually $369 at BH right now. This is an impossibly good price for such lenses. I'd buy the 35/1.4 right now if I didn't already have two other really good 35's. And I tend to use 28/50 way more. At these prices, everyone should jump on the 28mm.
P1:
'Yes, the photo was taken on a Sony a7r2 with the E bayonet version and is available at the link in full size.' 'Yes, I'm very pleased, this is my first manual Chinese 28mm lens.'
I think they want more exposure to help overcome the understandable resistance many feel; these lenses are a big change for many photographers. That's a time-honoured market move for new entrants. I'd rather buy direct from them, no problem with B&H, I prefer to cut out the middle man in appreciation of the maker's efforts. Even if they are actually DZO, who are also growing their cine lens business in the West.
It would be a big mistake to think of these as 'cheap lenses' in any but the crude monetary value; I did some pretty deep looking for the right fast 28mm and I don't buy on price these days. It's why I never mention it. The only real issue is the (common to all fast 28s) vignette wide open.
philip_pj wrote:
Dave, it depends on your standards, they don't need to do much more than gradual fade for me to be happy with that aspect. I don't pixel peep corners unless I see a problem, using 24/36/42 mp sensors. (The 3D effect drags your eye into the frame's middle section.)
As to landscapes, I use f5.6 to f7 if I have no close content, and f8 if regular front-to-back, and f11 if a lot of front-to-back. When people talk 'landscapes', I imagine they mean somewhat distant content at the nearest, from a ridge top or whatever. With a 28mm you otherwise get a lot of foreground.
I'll post below two of the former kind, and two with near content. If you are after near to perfect even IQ across the frame in a mostly landscape usage lens, it may not be for you, but I'll try to help you here. I think this more Zeiss-like need is going to be met by the CV 28/2 APO.
I'm away from my Photoshop PC, but I can do the corner inspection in ten days or so. More of an issue might be vignette, similar with all fast 28s - I trim a bit if needed after ACR. Where I shoot, all full-frame lenses vignette a bit at all usable apertures (!) I checked these below for a lack of cropping. I'm delighted with the lens at f8 because I did not know what to expect. ...Show more →
Thanks for your thoughts, Philip. Your photos look fantastic, and I'm a fan of near-far landscape compositions, so likely f/8-f/11. I have the Loxia 25/2.4 for perfect across frame sharpness, so with the 28/1.4 I'd mostly be looking for shallow DOF compositions with the option to stop down when desired.
This lens looks really special to my eyes - thanks to you and mudlake for continuing to post. Now the only issue is finding one in stock in Canada....argh.
