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 p.6 #17 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications | |
Jman13 wrote:
The R5 II will definitely have a few advantages, but you've got a few misconceptions and some things that are straight wrong.
- 20 fps vs 30 fps raw
Yep. This is an advantage for the R5 II for sure. Unless, of course, you're shooting a fast ball sport where the 1/160s readout isn't quite fast enough to avoid distortion, where you'll need to go back to the R5 II's mechanical shutter at 12 fps.
- JPEG pre-capture vs usable raw pre-capture
Yes. Advtantage the R5 II. Having used Canon and Nikon pre-capture both are an abomination in usability, though, so hopefully the R5 II's implementation is easier to use.
- 6 stops vs 8.5 stops IBIS
Yes, the R5 II should have a little better IBIS. Nikon was still using their second generation IBIS in the Z8, and not the newer one that's in the Zf and Z6 III...the detriment to being a year older.
- 2Mpx viewfinder vs 5Mpx HDR eye-controlled viewfinder
First: the Z8 does not have a 2MP viewfinder. It has a 3.6M dot viewfinder. As someone who has owned the original R5 and owns the Z8 now, I can say that MP does not the finder make. The eye control is a cool feature, but that's an AF feature, not an EVF one, and from what I can tell the R5 II uses essentially the same EVF as the original R5. (I shot with the R5 for two years). The R5's finder is a little higher res, but that's not the only important thing. If you gave me a choice between the Z8's EVF and the R5's, I'd take the Z8's ever day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's brighter, it's clearer, it's simply more enjoyable to use. Not sure if they just have a better quality panel in there, or if it's the optics or what, but the Z8 EVF is fantastic.
-no mechanical shutter vs mechanical shutter for tough lighting situations
This is not an advantage to the R5 II. The Z8 has a significantly faster reading sensor than the R5 II, and so it doesn't need a mechanical shutter. That means it always gets its full burst rate, it never wears out a mechanical shutter, and its readout is roughly the same speed as the maximum speed of the R5 II's mechanical shutter, so rolling shutter is going to be roughly the same in ES on the Z8 vs MS on the R5 II. And that means that for high speed action, the Z8 is going to have less distortion when shooting at high framerates.
-the worst AF among the big 3 vs class leading AF
I do think Canon's AF is a little better than Nikon's at the moment, but the Z8's AF is outstanding. I would put it a little ahead of the original R5's (when taking into account all situations), and probably a little behind the AF in the R3/R6 II/R8. But all are pretty close. I do expect the R5 II to have an edge, but let's not pretend this is some mind blowing difference. It's not. I have a very, very high hit rate with my Z8.
910g vs 670g
- Yeah, I guess. Z8 has a more full grip, though, and some people like the heavier weight. I liked the R5's grip a lot, so I'd probably prefer the lighter weight overall, but not a huge deal.
- $3999 vs $4299 intro price
Intro price is irrelevant. The Z8 has already been on the market for a year, and so the only way to compare price is to compare price now that both cameras exist. And that price is $4,299 vs $3,499. It's an $800 premium.
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My bad - the Nikon's EVF is 3.6M. Regarding brightness - you're comparing your Nikon to the R5. The R5's EVF is significantly worse than the R3's EVF (which I believe is in the R5 II now). The R3 EVF looks like OVF, I couldn't believe my eyes when I tried it, quite literally.
1/180s vs 1/270s I don't think would make any difference in soccer. Maybe golf? Both are still slow compared to global shutter.
Regarding the price - is that $500 a permanent reduction?
Jman13 wrote:
The real fact is, both of these cameras are absolutely phenomenal, and if you can't take good pictures with either, the problem isn't with the camera. It's great that Canon has a camera that can compete with the Z8s and A1s of the world, and overall competition is fantastic for the market. I'm sure when Nikon updates the Z8 in a year or two, it'll be ahead of the R5 II in several areas.
100% true, can't argue with that!
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Of course Nikon had to drop the price so the camera would remain competitive.