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 p.12 #8 · Official Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications | |
Jman13 wrote:
Yeah, it's a pain. Just now I pulled out my R8 and went to go set it.
First, I need to get a general idea of the exposure. Since there is no metering in Bulb mode at all, and the bulb timer only works when sent to Bulb mode, first I need to go into Manual mode, and see what the metering is at 30s. 3 stops underexposed? Ok, so I'll need a 4 minute exposure.
Second, I need to turn it into bulb mode (then the option becomes available).
Then I have to remember where in the damn menus the setting is. If I go 2 months between needing this, that can be a pain. I even have it in my My Menu (3rd page), but I missed it the first time through and ended up spending over a minute looking through all the menu pages trying to find it. Then I have to select 'Enable' after going into the menu option. Then press Info (and dont forget to press info, because just hitting enable will just leave it at whatever you had set before), then scroll over to the the minutes, press Set, then press up or down until 4 is set. Then press Set again to confirm.
Then I need to remember to either tap "OK" on the screen, or navigate over to the OK button and confirm it, because even after you've set it, if you get out by half pressing the shutter button, it won't save the time setting you've just set. (I have forgotten this step to my frustration many, many times). Then you can go ahead and exit the menu and tap the shutter to expose.
Then, if your exposure is actually still a little dark and you want to go to, say, 6 minutes, you need to go back to the menu, re-enter, make sure you confirm, etc.
On my Nikons: Go to Manual mode, meter at 30s, calculate that I need a 4 minute exposure, then move the dial 5 notches to 240". Done. Need to go to 6 minutes? 4 more clicks. Done.
It's a LOT easier.
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I just tried the same process with my Z8 for comparison... turn the camera on, find out the battery is dead again, put the battery on the charger... and in the mean time, three or four button presses and my R5 is set to the last long exposure time I used. Press OK and then press the shutter button. Way faster on the Canon! 
Just because you spent several minutes trying to remember how to operate your camera, doesn't make the process fundamentally worse.
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you are totally missing the point... the state of technology is DIFFERENT between now and when Z8 was launch. you can't compare camera prices like that. 
) However the silence that Canon is entertaining in that regard is not encouraging. Is the rumoured RF 200-500 still in the pipeline? What disapointed me the most about the announcement of the R1 and R5 mark ii was the fact that a VR lens rather than a great new lens for wildlife photography was announced. I think that this coupled with the "AI innovation" they are pushing/promoting in their recent releases (rather then the traditional expectations for a flagship, for example) are perhaps indicative as to where Canon hopes to make money in the future, Not sure "sports photographers" or "wildlife photographers" niches are their main targets. Perhaps they are looking at bigger fish to fry.