suteetat wrote:
I heard partial stacked sensor, whatever that is. Pre capture is still jpg only as far as I know. EVF improvement is supposed to be major though. But let see what actually show up tomorrow.
Partially stacked??!! Now that’s pretty interesting.
suteetat wrote:
I heard partial stacked sensor, whatever that is.
It might mean it reads out multiple rows in parallel but without stacked memory co-located on the sensor. This is the arrangement on the Canon R5/R6, which have readouts approximately 3x faster than the Z6/Z7:
suteetat wrote:
I heard partial stacked sensor, whatever that is. Pre capture is still jpg only as far as I know. EVF improvement is supposed to be major though. But let see what actually show up tomorrow.
Well Tower is now selling FF sensors with different stacking technologies, so who knows.
I don’t see why Sony semi-conductor would not have co-développes a stacked sensor with Nikon for the Z6III.
They provided Sony imaging and Nikon with the same tech in similar time frames for the a1 and Z9, I don’t see why they wouldn’t deliver a mid-range stacked sensor to Nikon first for the Z6III.
Canon cobbled the “semi-stacked” sensor together because they don’t have a sensor supplier and are years behind on R&D. There’s no reason Nikon wouldn’t work with Sony on a basic full stacked sensor if that is what they wanted.
RoamingScott wrote:
Canon cobbled the “semi-stacked” sensor together because they don’t have a sensor supplier and are years behind on R&D. There’s no reason Nikon wouldn’t work with Sony on a basic full stacked sensor if that is what they wanted.
If the leaked UK MRSP is confirmed, WEX Photo lists the Nikon Z6 III with a price of £2,700 then a full stacked 24MP sensor should easily be possible for the price.
Otherwise, that would be extremely steep for a conventional non-stacked 24MP sensor in 2024.
That's why I expect corresponding substance on the hardware side at this price.
₤2,700 is quite an announcement, even if it includes 20% UK-VAT.
At the current exchange rate, that would be over $2,850 net, even minus the 20% UK VAT.
Even if you don't pass that through 1:1, a US MRSP of $2,500 would be a surprise.
EU price, also with 19-20% VAT, would also be at least €3,000, tending to be even higher at around €3,100.
Here in the EU you can get almost a Canon R5 for the money, or a Sony A7IV or Canon R6 II including a €1,000 budget saving.
Having never paid attention to prior Nikon product launch lead-ups, it seems to this novice observer that the folks in Tokyo are quite confident and/or pleased to be making this announcement?! Or maybe I'm reading too much into all the frenzy they're generating this past week?
jimmy462 wrote:
Having never paid attention to prior Nikon product launch lead-ups, it seems to this novice observer that the folks in Tokyo are quite confident and/or pleased to be making this announcement?! Or maybe I'm reading too much into all the frenzy they're generating this past week?
Nikon has only posted a few seconds long teaser. Nothing out of the ordinary. I sure hope they'd be excited to announce a new product they are 2 years late in delivering
jimmy462 wrote:
Having never paid attention to prior Nikon product launch lead-ups, it seems to this novice observer that the folks in Tokyo are quite confident and/or pleased to be making this announcement?! Or maybe I'm reading too much into all the frenzy they're generating this past week?
Kind of par for the course with most camera makers these days, independent of the offering. I think it's a good strategy - free advertising for the buzz leading into the announcement.
RoamingScott wrote:
Nikon has only posted a few seconds long teaser. Nothing out of the ordinary. I sure hope they'd be excited to announce a new product they are 2 years late in delivering
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Agreed. Especially that the Z6 II was supposed to be the camera the Z6 was supposed to be. Dual card slots, etc.
snapsy wrote:
Kind of par for the course with most camera makers these days, independent of the offering. I think it's a good strategy - free advertising for the buzz leading into the announcement.
Yep. Leak a little info and everyone spreads it everywhere. Forums. Social media. Word of mouth and so on
The Z9 is the only Nikon announcement I remember where they managed to keep such a total secrecy about the key spec of the camera (the sensor read out speed).
"The Nikon Z6 III is rumored to have a stacked sensor (or partially stacked?) from Sony. That same sensor is expected to be used in the upcoming Sony a7S IV, rumored to be announced later this year. I was told that Nikon got a special and exclusive contract with Sony and only Nikon and Sony will use this specific sensor. Nikon had to buy a lot of them in order for Sony to agree on exclusivity. This explains the rumored high price of the Z6 III.
Nikon is pushing strongly for a larger video market share (RED acquisition).
I also keep getting hints that the EVF of the Z6 III will be greatly improved. One tipster even suggested that it will be the best EVF currently available on the market.
All rumors for now. Come back here tomorrow morning at 8 am EST for the final reveal and pre-order options."
Perhaps a "partially-stacked" sensor won't have the slight drawbacks of DR/low light but it'll be a much faster sensor vs Z6 II but still under the Z8, very curious.
That sounds very interesting and exciting, especially when you combine it with earlier rumors about the Sony A7s IV, where it was said that the A7s IV would have the highest dynamic range ever in an Alpha camera.
I had hoped that it would lean in that direction, towards a higher quality, albeit more expensive Z6 III.
We should know more about this tomorrow but at least the rumors tend, at least to my taste, in exactly the desired direction.
Finally a moment where I'm glad I stayed patient and bit my tongue when it itched.
I've had my finger on the trigger so often with the Z8, but in a number of areas it's not the camera I personally have in mind, and that's not because of the price.
This could finally change with a Z6 III or possibly a Z7 III in the pipeline, if the rumors about the sensor, very fast read out, and simultaneous progress in the area of DR/low light/high ISO turn out to be true.
Vento wrote:
That sounds very interesting and exciting, especially when you combine it with earlier rumors about the Sony A7s IV, where it was said that the A7s IV would have the highest dynamic range ever in an Alpha camera.
I had hoped that it would lean in that direction, towards a higher quality, albeit more expensive Z6 III.
We should know more about this tomorrow but at least the rumors tend, at least to my taste, in exactly the desired direction.
Finally a moment where I'm glad I stayed patient and bit my tongue when it itched.
I've had my finger on the trigger so often with the Z8, but in a number of areas it's not the camera I personally have in mind, and that's not because of the price.
This could finally change with a Z6 III or possibly a Z7 III in the pipeline, if the rumors about the sensor, very fast read out, and simultaneous progress in the area of DR/low light/high ISO turn out to be true. ...Show more →
I'm curious to see what someone like Gerald Undone reviews it. I like his reviews, pretty thorough and does a decent job of testing dynamic range.
Based on what we know at this point:
- Those photographers who were unhappy about Nikon's high performing cameras being too large will be happy
- Those photographers (D5/D6 owners for example) who were complaining about the lack of mid 20mp camera with pro level AF will be happy
- Those photographers who were concerned that Sony may not give Nikon access to their best sensors will be happy
- Those photographers who were unhappy that the Z6II had not progressed enough vs the Z6 will be happy
But I don't doubt that however brilliant the Z6III will be... we will see many unhappy comments anyways.
It does certainly feel that the Z6III was designed not just to beat the Canon R6II, but also to beat the R6III.
I really hope that this settles once for all the questions in the air about the positioning of Nikon vs Sony. To me it is 100% clear that they make up a great team and that more and more photographers will work with both systems in tandem.
Anyone remember how soon after release previous Z cameras have been available for purchase at Best Buy? I have over $2k worth of points there from appliance purchases at Pacific Bath that I have no other use for other than a Z6iii.
bernardl wrote:
Fortunately adapters work so well these days that all those great FE mount lenses can be considered as being part of the Z mount eco-system.
Cheers,
Bernard
I wouldn't say that. I'd say that you get around 75-90% functionality when adapting FE lenses to Nikon using the Megadap Pro. Some lenses work great whereas others have noticeable compatibility issues.
The adapter itself also has some issues where it sometimes sticks to the lens and or camera mount and some have reported that it can be a little fragile and bends when trying to take it off.
A few have resorted to buying multiple adapters and leaving them attached to the lens because of these issues.
