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Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue

  
 
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p.5 #1 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Is there any updated findings for this reissue?
Whether the glow is similar to the steel rims and old lux V1, or it’s a lot more modern wide open?

I have 50 lux asph black chrome and 35 steel rims, so if the rendering wide open resembles classic glowy 50 lux V1 or V2, I can justify buying this, but if wide open it’s too similar with ASPH then maybe not for me.

Used to have a chrome 50 lux V2, loved that lens, regretted selling it.



Mar 30, 2025 at 12:13 PM
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Nick YR wrote:
Is there any updated findings for this reissue?
Whether the glow is similar to the steel rims and old lux V1, or it’s a lot more modern wide open?

I have 50 lux asph black chrome and 35 steel rims, so if the rendering wide open resembles classic glowy 50 lux V1 or V2, I can justify buying this, but if wide open it’s too similar with ASPH then maybe not for me.

Used to have a chrome 50 lux V2, loved that lens, regretted selling it.


Mine shows up tomorrow-

I will post samples of the asph vs the re-issue




Mar 30, 2025 at 01:07 PM
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Nick YR wrote:
Is there any updated findings for this reissue?
Whether the glow is similar to the steel rims and old lux V1, or it’s a lot more modern wide open?

I have 50 lux asph black chrome and 35 steel rims, so if the rendering wide open resembles classic glowy 50 lux V1 or V2, I can justify buying this, but if wide open it’s too similar with ASPH then maybe not for me.

Used to have a chrome 50 lux V2, loved that lens, regretted selling it.


Wide open, the 'new classic' has central zone contrast and smooth background bokeh that resemble the modern ASPH lens; but beyond a 15mm radius the contrast and sharpness fall apart very quickly with strong field curvature.
The v3 ( optically nearly identical to the v2 ) has obvious background outlining and better foreground bokeh, so while the 11714 may be derived from the v2 Summilux' optical configuration, there has been significant tweaking under the hood. Modern coatings add flare suppression and I have only seen localised glow in the most extreme of backlit situations.

If you want a lens that renders like the steel rim, try the Voigtländer Heliar 50mm f/1.5.



Mar 30, 2025 at 01:15 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
Mine shows up tomorrow-

I will post samples of the asph vs the re-issue



do you have a V2 or V3 to compare against? I'm patiently waiting to hear....something. I put in preorders in two places immediately



Mar 30, 2025 at 03:59 PM
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p.5 #5 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


rsolti13 wrote:
do you have a V2 or V3 to compare against? I'm patiently waiting to hear....something. I put in preorders in two places immediately


I am going to track one down again to compare- Maybe Fred will sell me mine back

On another note- I called Leica when I ordered my Lens with a question on shipping- They followed up with a call today to ensure I got it.

So Leica isn't perfect, but they do provide some nice service at times.




Mar 31, 2025 at 01:01 PM
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p.5 #6 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Its a pretty lens-

Already prefer the focus through over the V3-

Hood- Lets not talk about that but I like the look







Mar 31, 2025 at 01:08 PM
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p.5 #7 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Beautiful combo….


Mar 31, 2025 at 05:48 PM
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p.5 #8 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


RustyRus wrote:
I am going to track one down again to compare- Maybe Fred will sell me mine back


Thanks for selling it to me! It's become one of my favorite lenses for its beautiful rendering and surprisingly lightweight design for a 50mm f/1.4, and I can't imagine ever parting with it.



Mar 31, 2025 at 06:07 PM
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p.5 #9 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


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Thanks for selling it to me! It's become one of my favorite lenses for its beautiful rendering and surprisingly lightweight design for a 50mm f/1.4, and I can't imagine ever parting with it.


Doesn’t sound like that one is headed back to Rusty….lol



Mar 31, 2025 at 06:47 PM
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p.5 #10 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


FrozenInTime wrote:
Wide open, the 'new classic' has central zone contrast and smooth background bokeh that resemble the modern ASPH lens; but beyond a 15mm radius the contrast and sharpness fall apart very quickly with strong field curvature.
The v3 ( optically nearly identical to the v2 ) has obvious background outlining and better foreground bokeh, so while the 11714 may be derived from the v2 Summilux' optical configuration, there has been significant tweaking under the hood. Modern coatings add flare suppression and I have only seen localised glow in the most extreme of backlit situations.

If you want a lens that renders like
...Show more

Can I say something?....pleeease...

I read about this lens here and there and I am trying to wrap my head around the following issue:
at wide open lens is not sharp across and writers/users call this magical or glowing effect....I mean its all fun and games till someone loses and eye...er...I meant usd 3800+tax..
Can that glow and magic be introduced in post processing?...and money spent on a sharp lens?



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p.5 #11 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Fred Miranda wrote:
Thanks for selling it to me! It's become one of my favorite lenses for its beautiful rendering and surprisingly lightweight design for a 50mm f/1.4, and I can't imagine ever parting with it.


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I love that you are enjoying it!!!! Some great photos I have already seen with it man!



Mar 31, 2025 at 08:02 PM
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p.5 #12 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


I don't love dog test pictures but first few images taken of my Ridgeback. It feels like my Noctilux 1.2 in a more mangeable size so far-

Looking forward to a direct comparison with the 50 1.4 LUX CF -

My 50 needs to go into Leica for service with a stiff. aperture ring but not for a few months still-




  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.7    1/250s    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/200s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  




Mar 31, 2025 at 08:20 PM
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p.5 #13 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Nice pics, Rus!

Do you see some of the glows / uncorrected SA wide open at MFD?



Apr 01, 2025 at 04:57 AM
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p.5 #14 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


I don’t have mine yet, but the background blur looks nothing like a V2 to me. Here are some V2 pics from this past weekend. I like the little bubbles of the V2, but I’m really digging the softness I’m seeing from the reissue




















Apr 01, 2025 at 05:17 AM
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p.5 #15 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Nick YR wrote:
Nice pics, Rus!

Do you see some of the glows / uncorrected SA wide open at MFD?


Haven't shot enough with it yet to tell-

If the weather stays, taking it out tonight for some sample shots. First impression though is its nothing like the V3 I owned but I will hold judgement.




Apr 01, 2025 at 06:20 PM
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p.5 #16 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Quick walk in the backyard before the rain came again-

Interesting lens so far- I will reserve judgement until I can get some real samples that aren't flowers but liking what I see so far.

Really want a side by side with the ASPH. Should have time later this week.




  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/1250s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/800s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/800s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/500s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/640s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M11-P    Summilux-M 1:1.4/50 lens    50mm    f/1.4    1/2000s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  




Apr 01, 2025 at 07:55 PM
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p.5 #17 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Thanks Rus and rsolti13!

The reissue seems like having smoother bokeh and less outlines than V2, more similar to ASPH.

I do hope they still retain some of the glows. OK will wait for your side by side comparison.

Thanks!



Apr 01, 2025 at 08:18 PM
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p.5 #18 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


Has anyone actually shot it with film yet?


Apr 01, 2025 at 08:37 PM
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modlin wrote:
Can I say something?....pleeease...

I read about this lens here and there and I am trying to wrap my head around the following issue:
at wide open lens is not sharp across and writers/users call this magical or glowing effect....I mean its all fun and games till someone loses and eye...er...I meant usd 3800+tax..
Can that glow and magic be introduced in post processing?...and money spent on a sharp lens?


Do you like you the "portrait" effect on your phone? Do you shoot your camera at f/8 and then apply a PS effect?

If the answer is yes to the above then, I guess, the answer is yes to your question.



Apr 02, 2025 at 10:00 AM
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p.5 #20 · Leica Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 (pre-ASPH) reissue


panos.v wrote:
Do you like you the "portrait" effect on your phone? Do you shoot your camera at f/8 and then apply a PS effect?

If the answer is yes to the above then, I guess, the answer is yes to your question.


Good one...
no..I shoot f1.4-f2.5 on otus 55, zeiss135 apo or milvus 85 my portraits
its 2025 asph/apo is a default
cheers



Apr 02, 2025 at 10:31 AM
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