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p.26 #1X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jul 08, 2024 at 08:48 PM
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p.26 #2X100VI first impressions + running commentary
And you saw all this on a walkabout? I need to increase my step count to 10,000, apparently. I'm missing out on a lot of photography.
Jul 09, 2024 at 12:58 PM
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p.26 #3X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
My final take was posted a few pages back: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1848441/23#16546755

I did rebuy a mint V (for a great price) and practically only miss Reala Ace. I've never been bothered by the 26mp sensor and actually prefer it for certain applications.


Jul 09, 2024 at 01:07 PM
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p.26 #4X100VI first impressions + running commentary
TENOG wrote:
And you saw all this on a walkabout? I need to increase my step count to 10,000, apparently. I'm missing out on a lot of photography.


I take pictures every day during my walks around the neighborhood, but I'm running out of lampposts and sky to photograph.
Jul 09, 2024 at 01:12 PM
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p.26 #5X100VI first impressions + running commentary
TENOG wrote:
And you saw all this on a walkabout? I need to increase my step count to 10,000, apparently. I'm missing out on a lot of photography.


hahahahahahaha! It's truly a fun camera, it was worth the four month wait. This is a great camera to fulfill my bucket list like doing a double (take pics in the secondary tennis courts at the Aussie Open then head over for the swimsuit shoot at a nearby beach in Melbourne) or doing the same at Foro Italico (Italian Open) then get a local model and walk around the streets of Rome. With this small camera I don't think stadium security will ask 'hey buddy where is your press pass?'

I think I need to buy a couple more batteries as I only have three.
Jul 09, 2024 at 03:10 PM
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p.26 #6X100VI first impressions + running commentary
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I used the X100VI again last week. This camera is becoming to be my 10,000+ steps machine :-) absolutely perfect for walkabouts. I shot mostly with the film bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Negative and Acros G). However, when I saw her printed outfit----I changed immediately to Velvia! I added a few more film sim recipes but only got a chance to use Kevin Mullins' technicolor (warm).

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174688501.I2uwDKeG.3DSCF2449_Nikcopy.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174691120.lMcso5r4.1DSCF1804_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174707924.c9reEOy6.1DSCF2251.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174698302.80Xi8Hdt.1DSCF2151_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174708120.yVK8ovn3.1DSCF2089_DxOAstia.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174691122.Utx0YQ3y.1DSCF4179_DxOc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174708122.rs0eyfBT.1DSCF2321a.jpg

Velvia

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174695989.H4JzTOgK.1DSCF3698_DxOc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174690875.MsIFi2qV.1DSCF3736_DxO.jpg


Are you adding texture in post on these? A few have some funkiness going on, one of which looks like Fuji worms on steroids (6th from top).
Jul 09, 2024 at 05:17 PM
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p.26 #7X100VI first impressions + running commentary


RoamingScott wrote:
jojib wroteI used the X100VI again last week. This camera is becoming to be my 10,000+ steps machine :-) absolutely perfect for walkabouts. I shot mostly with the film bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Negative and Acros G). However, when I saw her printed outfit----I changed immediately to Velvia! I added a few more film sim recipes but only got a chance to use Kevin Mullins' technicolor (warm).

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174688501.I2uwDKeG.3DSCF2449_Nikcopy.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174691120.lMcso5r4.1DSCF1804_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174707924.c9reEOy6.1DSCF2251.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174698302.80Xi8Hdt.1DSCF2151_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174708120.yVK8ovn3.1DSCF2089_DxOAstia.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174691122.Utx0YQ3y.1DSCF4179_DxOc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174708122.rs0eyfBT.1DSCF2321a.jpg

Velvia

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174695989.H4JzTOgK.1DSCF3698_DxOc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174690875.MsIFi2qV.1DSCF3736_DxO.jpg
Are you adding texture in post on these? A few have some funkiness going on, one of which looks like Fuji worms on steroids (6th from top).

That’s a full body shot that I cropped, I didn’t add texture.
Jul 09, 2024 at 05:44 PM
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p.26 #8X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Got ,y hood and filter adaptor today. Locks up will. Is there a lens cap for the hood? IT would be nice if the hood was reversible for packing.

On the 100VI coming from a 100T- I like it but I struggle with some of the controls. On my T, I use the lever on the front to switch from EV-OVF to the right, and to the left, it brings up the little EVF sqaure in the corner. The T has the patch function (I thought I saw it) but now its gone and the lever doesn't bring it back. Not ever sure what to call the little patch to try to find it in the manual.

I find on the IV that I'm inadvertanly hitting buttons and engaging things. I keep on getting the digital zoom for 50mm and 70mm, and I don't know how or why, and I can only seem to get rid of it in the menu.
Jul 10, 2024 at 11:33 PM
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p.26 #9X100VI first impressions + running commentary
You are spinning the manual focus ring and engaging the tele converter. Not sure which lens hood you bought, but if it’s the one from my post, they sell a separate lens cap for it. The one that comes with the camera won’t fit on it snuggly.

anselwannab wrote:
Got ,y hood and filter adaptor today. Locks up will. Is there a lens cap for the hood? IT would be nice if the hood was reversible for packing.

On the 100VI coming from a 100T- I like it but I struggle with some of the controls. On my T, I use the lever on the front to switch from EV-OVF to the right, and to the left, it brings up the little EVF sqaure in the corner. The T has the patch function (I thought I saw it) but now its gone and the lever doesn't bring it back. Not
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Jul 11, 2024 at 06:19 AM
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p.26 #10X100VI first impressions + running commentary
anselwannab wrote:
Got ,y hood and filter adaptor today. Locks up will. Is there a lens cap for the hood? IT would be nice if the hood was reversible for packing.

On the 100VI coming from a 100T- I like it but I struggle with some of the controls. On my T, I use the lever on the front to switch from EV-OVF to the right, and to the left, it brings up the little EVF sqaure in the corner. The T has the patch function (I thought I saw it) but now its gone and the lever doesn't bring it back. Not
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I got all Fuji OEM UV filter and hood. I read on one of the FB X100VI groups that a 58mm lens cap works. I ordered one on Amazon. It's OK but the cap isn't fully flushed when you try to close it to the hood. I don't walk around with the lens cap on because I know I might lose it.
Jul 11, 2024 at 07:33 AM
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p.26 #11X100VI first impressions + running commentary
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lsquare wroteI have some questions for X100 VI owners. I was looking at DPR's review and I was surprised that if I want to shoot 6.2K videos, there will be a crop. So I'm assuming I'll have to shoot at 4K with line skipping to utilize the full width of the sensor? If so, what is this mode called in the menu? Since it's using the full width of the sensor, why is DPR saying in this mode the view is equivalent to about 37mm? How's the quality of the videos? Is it usable?
As I detailed in the OP, one core reason I tried the VI was for filming short handheld videos during travel. I found the IBIS jerk very annoying to the point that the footage was not up to my standards.

The crop factor was the least of the issues, but yes, it's present in many modes.


IBIS aside, what's the highest quality 4K video mode that utilizes the full width of the sensor?
Jul 30, 2024 at 01:23 AM
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p.26 #12X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Just guessing… but regarding the shot in question, to me it looks like a fairly significant crop from a larger original that was probably shot at a somewhat high ISO before some shadow recovery was done in post, resulting in somewhat prominent noise.

One more small thing: I think that it would be appropriate to reduce the number of these photographs in these posts. One or two example photographs are fine, especially when they illustrate a specific issue or point, but there are other forums here at FM for sharing large numbers of images for their own sake.

YMMV.
Jul 30, 2024 at 07:46 AM
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p.26 #13X100VI first impressions + running commentary


lsquare wrote:
RoamingScott wrote
lsquare wroteI have some questions for X100 VI owners. I was looking at DPR's review and I was surprised that if I want to shoot 6.2K videos, there will be a crop. So I'm assuming I'll have to shoot at 4K with line skipping to utilize the full width of the sensor? If so, what is this mode called in the menu? Since it's using the full width of the sensor, why is DPR saying in this mode the view is equivalent to about 37mm? How's the quality of the videos? Is it usable?
As I detailed in the OP, one core reason I tried the VI was for filming short handheld videos during travel. I found the IBIS jerk very annoying to the point that the footage was not up to my standards.

The crop factor was the least of the issues, but yes, it's present in many modes.
IBIS aside, what's the highest quality 4K video mode that utilizes the full width of the sensor?


Help?
Aug 03, 2024 at 03:39 AM
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p.26 #14X100VI first impressions + running commentary
I recently saw a video where the presenter indicated that on the X100V the ISO with the greatest dynamic range was 640 and he would typically use the ND filter because he would always shoot at 640 even in daylight. Is this true? And is there a sweet spot for the X100VI since it has a different sensor?
Aug 06, 2024 at 06:30 AM
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p.26 #15X100VI first impressions + running commentary
saxguy wrote:
I recently saw a video where the presenter indicated that on the X100V the ISO with the greatest dynamic range was 640 and he would typically use the ND filter because he would always shoot at 640 even in daylight. Is this true? And is there a sweet spot for the X100VI since it has a different sensor?


This needs more nuance. It's not JUST shooting at 640, it's setting DR400 and shooting in JPEG. The overall "best" DR is of course achieved at base ISO, 160 for the V and 100 for the VI: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#FujiFilm%20X100V,FujiFilm%20X100VI

However, what DR400 is doing is shooting underexposed by several stops and pulling up the exposure as part of the JPEG processing. On the V, the ISO will become 640, and on the VI it will become 500. This allows for better highlight retention and the APPEARANCE of better DR. The transitions between contrasty areas are far more pleasing to my eye using this method.

DR400 will also affect RAW files, but not in the same positive way, you're simply shooting dark, raising EV, and introducing unnecessary noise. The JPEG processing mitigates this well in my experience.

It's how I shoot my V by default, but again, I use mine for JPEG only.
Aug 06, 2024 at 06:59 AM
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p.26 #16X100VI first impressions + running commentary
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saxguy wroteI recently saw a video where the presenter indicated that on the X100V the ISO with the greatest dynamic range was 640 and he would typically use the ND filter because he would always shoot at 640 even in daylight. Is this true? And is there a sweet spot for the X100VI since it has a different sensor?
This needs more nuance. It's not JUST shooting at 640, it's setting DR400 and shooting in JPEG. The overall "best" DR is of course achieved at base ISO, 160 for the V and 100 for the VI: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#FujiFilm%20X100V,FujiFilm%20X100VI

However, what DR400 is doing is shooting underexposed by several stops and pulling up the exposure as part of the JPEG processing. On the V, the ISO will become 640, and on the VI it will become 500. This allows for better highlight retention and the APPEARANCE of better DR. The transitions between contrasty areas are far more pleasing to my eye using
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So in DR400 is the camera selecting a higher shutter speed than what's set in order to shoot underexposed?

Aug 06, 2024 at 07:16 AM
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p.26 #17X100VI first impressions + running commentary
No, but it is selecting a faster than EV0 shutter speed if on Auto.

saxguy wrote:
RoamingScott wrote
saxguy wroteI recently saw a video where the presenter indicated that on the X100V the ISO with the greatest dynamic range was 640 and he would typically use the ND filter because he would always shoot at 640 even in daylight. Is this true? And is there a sweet spot for the X100VI since it has a different sensor?
This needs more nuance. It's not JUST shooting at 640, it's setting DR400 and shooting in JPEG. The overall "best" DR is of course achieved at base ISO, 160 for the V and 100 for the VI: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#FujiFilm%20X100V,FujiFilm%20X100VI

However, what DR400 is doing is shooting underexposed by several stops and pulling up the exposure as part of the JPEG processing. On the V, the ISO will become 640, and on the VI it will become 500. This allows for better highlight retention and the APPEARANCE of better DR. The transitions between contrasty areas are far more pleasing to my eye using this method.

DR400 will also affect RAW files, but not in the same positive way, you're simply shooting dark, raising EV, and introducing unnecessary noise. The JPEG processing mitigates this well in my experience.

It's how I shoot my V by default, but again, I use mine for JPEG only.
So in DR400 is the camera selecting a higher shutter speed than what's set in order to shoot underexposed?


Aug 06, 2024 at 07:18 AM
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p.26 #18X100VI first impressions + running commentary
This site has nice A/B shots so you can see what I mean about the highlight/shadow falloff.

https://exposureworks.co.uk/fujifilm-xt-3-dynamic-range-settings/
Aug 06, 2024 at 07:27 AM
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p.26 #19X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Does the same hold for other models, specifically the X-E4 and the X-T5?
Aug 06, 2024 at 09:07 AM
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p.26 #20X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Of course.
Aug 06, 2024 at 09:09 AM
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