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p.25 #1X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
To clarify what I'm talking about - some pics:

First, this is with the grip just barely tightened - enough to pull the bottom plate in contact with the camera (but would quickly loosen and fall off if used). The gap here is consistent along the bottom.

And to confirm - when mounted on my X100V, the exact same thing happens, so it's not the camera.


I've got the Smallrig grip and don't seem to be having this problem.... have you replaced the grip yet?

May 20, 2024 at 01:23 PM
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p.25 #2X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Got a V back in hand...feels like home compared to the VI

One thing of interest that I had as a + for the VI was the ability to simply plug the camera into my iPhone 15 via USB-C to transfer files.

The V actually supports this too, albeit considerably slower for reasons unknown...perhaps the CPU, perhaps a slower USB spec?
May 25, 2024 at 03:24 PM
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p.25 #3X100VI first impressions + running commentary
5Gbps vs 10Gbps
May 25, 2024 at 08:43 PM
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p.25 #4X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Funny how big of a difference it makes…the VI moves files almost instantly where the V has the typical loading bar.

Walie wrote:
5Gbps vs 10Gbps

May 25, 2024 at 08:55 PM
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p.25 #5X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
To clarify what I'm talking about - some pics:

First, this is with the grip just barely tightened - enough to pull the bottom plate in contact with the camera (but would quickly loosen and fall off if used). The gap here is consistent along the bottom:
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_loose.jpg

Now, if you tighten the screw down so that the grip is secure, you can see the center/right goes flush to the camera body, while the gap on the left stays...the cut out on the left is just barely too small to allow it to fully seat...the result is that the plate bends slightly and
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Mine had a gap between the body and grip that didn't look right on both the v and vi, I returned mine.
The Fuji leather case and a Small Rig thumb grip took its place and is very comfortable with a wrist strap.

I did get to take the vi on a trip to Peru along with a Sony kit. I used it about 50% of the time (for street). Its a really great street camera, super stealthy, got some superb candids. Still going through the images. The more I use it the more I enjoy it mostly. I thought I'd use the Optical VF more, but it stays in EVF almost always unless I'm wearing sunglasses.
I got the chance to use the TC for some portraits, they turned out a little better than I had hoped. The bokeh is nice for environmental clicks at 3-5 ft.
If I keep the LCD screen "off" it really helps battery time.
I thought I'd use the ND filter more, but with an electronic shutter and IBIS I didn't "need" to.
I own a Q and have owned Q2's, I've not owned the Q3, I refuse to pay 6-6.5K for a fixed lens body. lol
But to me, this vi is a perfect option and more fun than my Q
Anyways, just my .02 cents coming from the Leica and Sony world.


May 26, 2024 at 08:38 AM
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p.25 #6X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Matt Kerby wrote:
Jman13 wroteTo clarify what I'm talking about - some pics:

First, this is with the grip just barely tightened - enough to pull the bottom plate in contact with the camera (but would quickly loosen and fall off if used). The gap here is consistent along the bottom:
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_loose.jpg

Now, if you tighten the screw down so that the grip is secure, you can see the center/right goes flush to the camera body, while the gap on the left stays...the cut out on the left is just barely too small to allow it to fully seat...the result is that the plate bends slightly and slightly angles the camera (and I'd imagine puts stresses on the tripod socket that probably shouldn't be there). (if anything, the area covered on the left is LESS covered when tightened than when the screw is loose, since it's bending the plate)
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_tight.jpg

From the front you can see the difference too, as the amount of camera base covered up by the grip is different. Just trying to figure out if this is a design error or a manufacturing error on my grip. If the latter, I'll exchange mine, because otherwise I like it, and it does look really nice.
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_front.jpg

And to confirm - when mounted on my X100V, the exact same thing happens, so it's not the camera.
I own a Q and have owned Q2's, I've not owned the Q3, I refuse to pay 6-6.5K for a fixed lens body. lol
But to me, this vi is a perfect option and more fun than my Q
Anyways, just my .02 cents coming from the Leica and Sony world.



Would you elaborate a bit more on why you like the X100VI better than the Leica Q and Q2? Your comment about the VI being more fun resonates with me.
May 26, 2024 at 09:52 AM
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p.25 #7X100VI first impressions + running commentary
TENOG wrote:
Matt Kerby wrote
Jman13 wroteTo clarify what I'm talking about - some pics:

First, this is with the grip just barely tightened - enough to pull the bottom plate in contact with the camera (but would quickly loosen and fall off if used). The gap here is consistent along the bottom:
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_loose.jpg

Now, if you tighten the screw down so that the grip is secure, you can see the center/right goes flush to the camera body, while the gap on the left stays...the cut out on the left is just barely too small to allow it to fully seat...the result is that the plate bends slightly and slightly angles the camera (and I'd imagine puts stresses on the tripod socket that probably shouldn't be there). (if anything, the area covered on the left is LESS covered when tightened than when the screw is loose, since it's bending the plate)
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_tight.jpg

From the front you can see the difference too, as the amount of camera base covered up by the grip is different. Just trying to figure out if this is a design error or a manufacturing error on my grip. If the latter, I'll exchange mine, because otherwise I like it, and it does look really nice.
https://www.jordansteele.com/2024/xgrip_front.jpg

And to confirm - when mounted on my X100V, the exact same thing happens, so it's not the camera.
I own a Q and have owned Q2's, I've not owned the Q3, I refuse to pay 6-6.5K for a fixed lens body. lol
But to me, this vi is a perfect option and more fun than my Q
Anyways, just my .02 cents coming from the Leica and Sony world.
Would you elaborate a bit more on why you like the X100VI better than the Leica Q and Q2? Your comment about the VI being more fun resonates with me.


It's more fun having an articulating screen on this type of camera, especially with such a small MFD. It's smaller and lighter and has a flash and I'm not worried I might scratch it and lose $500-1000 (literally) in resale value. People complain about the x100vi continuous focus mode. But I actually LOVE it for street. You don't need to close down the aperture much, point it towards your subject and it grabs the face so I can focus on composition. Very stealth.
Also, (I think) people think its a film camera and don't give it a second look.

I also think it's fun to be able add the TC's, they work and are pretty darn good, (compared to my prior assumptions.)

The Ricoh GR3 ticked off most these boxes as well, but with no EVF/OVF I couldn't gel.

May 26, 2024 at 10:39 AM
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p.25 #8X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Finally got my X100VI this weekend. My first impression when holding it, is that it feels a bit plastic-y (for lack of a better word) compared to my original X100 or X100T (I also owned an X100F). I didn't own an X100V for comparison but have to say, I was a bit surprised at first. The older models 'feel' more substantial. I felt the same way when comparing my Xpro2 to my XPro3. Despite this, it still feels familiar and is a nice upgrade coming from the X100F.

The shutter button feels fine to me. I've read some complaints about it.

AF seems improved from the F.

I absolutely hate the location of the Q button.

I'm not sure how I feel about the ISO dial. I got used to the detents on the other X cameras that own.

IQ is what I expected.

Jun 02, 2024 at 10:58 AM
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p.25 #9X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Finally got my X100VI after a four month wait.....it was worth it. Love the film sims IQ from the camera. I alternated between film sim bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Negative and Reala Ace) and C1 (Kodak Portra 160 recipe that I found in the superb fuji x weekly website). All fine jpegs.

I found the focusing to be fast enough. The only drawbacks are: the mechanical shutter sound is very muted. It doesn't give me a good feeback that I already clicked the shutter. Maybe because I was doing bracket shots? Anyway, I'll read the manual and find out if I can raise the volume. The only other negative I could think of is when shooting with C1, there's a lag when writing the image to the SD card. However, when I use the built in sims, there is no delay.

I love the film sims. With Astia/Reala Ace it's as if I did the shoot in the blue hour. OTOH with Portra it's as if it was during the golden hour (I shot late afternoon). It's amazing what this little camera can do.

Here are some of my faves. Maybe sometime I'll post the swimsuit pics too.

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676053.0b0mIgp1.1DSCF0535_DxOc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676066.IKW3AWUf.1DSCF1399_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676060.sFI0v2bf.1DSCF0784_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676059.CdapXBcz.1DSCF0554_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676055.6Di5osNt.1DSCF0721_Nikc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676067.qFTKogNT.1DSCF0760_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676058.yj6tUdAV.1DSCF1400_DxO.jpg

Cheers,

José

Jun 27, 2024 at 11:23 PM
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p.25 #10X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Great stuff. Set clarity to zero on any recipes that are taking time to write to the card, that’s the setting that slows it down.

jojib wrote:
Finally got my X100VI after a four month wait.....it was worth it. Love the film sims IQ from the camera. I alternated between film sim bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Negative and Reala Ace) and C1 (Kodak Portra 160 recipe that I found in the superb fuji x weekly website). All fine jpegs.

I found the focusing to be fast enough. The only drawbacks are: the mechanical shutter sound is very muted. It doesn't give me a good feeback that I already clicked the shutter. Maybe because I was doing bracket shots? Anyway, I'll read the manual and find out if I
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Jun 28, 2024 at 06:26 AM
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p.25 #11X100VI first impressions + running commentary
jojib wrote:
Finally got my X100VI after a four month wait.....it was worth it. Love the film sims IQ from the camera. I alternated between film sim bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Negative and Reala Ace) and C1 (Kodak Portra 160 recipe that I found in the superb fuji x weekly website). All fine jpegs.

I found the focusing to be fast enough. The only drawbacks are: the mechanical shutter sound is very muted. It doesn't give me a good feeback that I already clicked the shutter. Maybe because I was doing bracket shots? Anyway, I'll read the manual and find out if I
...Show more →

Great pictures!
Jun 28, 2024 at 07:48 AM
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p.25 #12X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Great stuff. Set clarity to zero on any recipes that are taking time to write to the card, that’s the setting that slows it down.

Much appreciated Scott! And thanks for getting the ball rolling with the X100VI impressions/feedback.

I looked into the explanation on clarity in the fuji x weekly website. Before I read it I thought about changing all my four customized film sims to 0 clarity. However, from the article the clarity is an important factor to get that 'look'. Thus I'll just leave it as is. One other thing I could do is to find a close alternative to the Portra 160 recipe from the built-in Fuji film sims.

Cheers,

José


Jun 28, 2024 at 11:14 AM
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p.25 #13X100VI first impressions + running commentary
For what’s it worth I just use a 10% mist filter in place of clarity in cam and like that result too.

jojib wrote:
RoamingScott wrote:
Great stuff. Set clarity to zero on any recipes that are taking time to write to the card, that’s the setting that slows it down.

Much appreciated Scott! And thanks for getting the ball rolling with the X100VI impressions/feedback.

I looked into the explanation on clarity in the fuji x weekly website. Before I read it I thought about changing all my four customized film sims to 0 clarity. However, from the article the clarity is an important factor to get that 'look'. Thus I'll just leave it as is. One other thing I could do is to find a close
...Show more →
Jun 28, 2024 at 11:23 AM
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p.25 #14X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Thanks again Scott. I'll try to experiment with that.
Jun 28, 2024 at 01:38 PM
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p.25 #15X100VI first impressions + running commentary
nepali wrote:
jojib wroteFinally got my X100VI after a four month wait.....it was worth it. Love the film sims IQ from the camera. I alternated between film sim bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Negative and Reala Ace) and C1 (Kodak Portra 160 recipe that I found in the superb fuji x weekly website). All fine jpegs.

I found the focusing to be fast enough. The only drawbacks are: the mechanical shutter sound is very muted. It doesn't give me a good feeback that I already clicked the shutter. Maybe because I was doing bracket shots? Anyway, I'll read the manual and find out if I can raise the volume. The only other negative I could think of is when shooting with C1, there's a lag when writing the image to the SD card. However, when I use the built in sims, there is no delay.

I love the film sims. With Astia/Reala Ace it's as if I did the shoot in the blue hour. OTOH with Portra it's as if it was during the golden hour (I shot late afternoon). It's amazing what this little camera can do.

Here are some of my faves. Maybe sometime I'll post the swimsuit pics too.

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676053.0b0mIgp1.1DSCF0535_DxOc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676066.IKW3AWUf.1DSCF1399_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676060.sFI0v2bf.1DSCF0784_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676059.CdapXBcz.1DSCF0554_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676055.6Di5osNt.1DSCF0721_Nikc.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676067.qFTKogNT.1DSCF0760_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174676058.yj6tUdAV.1DSCF1400_DxO.jpg

Cheers,

José
Great pictures!


Thanks for the kind words!
Jun 28, 2024 at 05:59 PM
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p.25 #16X100VI first impressions + running commentary
I have some questions for X100 VI owners. I was looking at DPR's review and I was surprised that if I want to shoot 6.2K videos, there will be a crop. So I'm assuming I'll have to shoot at 4K with line skipping to utilize the full width of the sensor? If so, what is this mode called in the menu? Since it's using the full width of the sensor, why is DPR saying in this mode the view is equivalent to about 37mm? How's the quality of the videos? Is it usable?
Jul 04, 2024 at 01:31 AM
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p.25 #17X100VI first impressions + running commentary
When I got my VI back when it was launched, I ordered the filter holder from BH, but it has been backordered.

LH-100 Lens Hood and Adapter Ring for X100/X100S (Black)

Just got a shipping notice. I didn't even know I had it set up for shipping, I just thought it was for notification. Pleasant surprise. Don't know if I got lucky, or if they have it in stock now.
Jul 08, 2024 at 11:24 AM
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p.25 #18X100VI first impressions + running commentary
lsquare wrote:
I have some questions for X100 VI owners. I was looking at DPR's review and I was surprised that if I want to shoot 6.2K videos, there will be a crop. So I'm assuming I'll have to shoot at 4K with line skipping to utilize the full width of the sensor? If so, what is this mode called in the menu? Since it's using the full width of the sensor, why is DPR saying in this mode the view is equivalent to about 37mm? How's the quality of the videos? Is it usable?


As I detailed in the OP, one core reason I tried the VI was for filming short handheld videos during travel. I found the IBIS jerk very annoying to the point that the footage was not up to my standards.

The crop factor was the least of the issues, but yes, it's present in many modes.
Jul 08, 2024 at 11:34 AM
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p.25 #19X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
lsquare wroteI have some questions for X100 VI owners. I was looking at DPR's review and I was surprised that if I want to shoot 6.2K videos, there will be a crop. So I'm assuming I'll have to shoot at 4K with line skipping to utilize the full width of the sensor? If so, what is this mode called in the menu? Since it's using the full width of the sensor, why is DPR saying in this mode the view is equivalent to about 37mm? How's the quality of the videos? Is it usable?
As I detailed in the OP, one core reason I tried the VI was for filming short handheld videos during travel. I found the IBIS jerk very annoying to the point that the footage was not up to my standards.

The crop factor was the least of the issues, but yes, it's present in many modes.


Scott, what is your final take on the VI versus the V. You went from V to VI and back to V so you must have an opinion. I'm reading a lot of UTube commentators who think that the upgrade is either meh or regret leaving the V, which they think is a better camera for various reasons.
Jul 08, 2024 at 02:41 PM
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p.25 #20X100VI first impressions + running commentary
My final take was posted a few pages back: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1848441/23#16546755

I did rebuy a mint V (for a great price) and practically only miss Reala Ace. I've never been bothered by the 26mp sensor and actually prefer it for certain applications.
Jul 08, 2024 at 03:01 PM
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