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p.27 #1X100VI first impressions + running commentary
I've been playing around with my new X100VI, and noticed that it gets warm. I am shooting RAW + fine jpeg files, and using Reala film sim., is this "normal" with this little fellow?
Aug 10, 2024 at 07:09 PM
p.27 #2X100VI first impressions + running commentary
I covered this in detail in my VI thread. It’s normal and it sucks.
DJT2020 wrote:
I've been playing around with my new X100VI, and noticed that it gets warm. I am shooting RAW + fine jpeg files, and using Reala film sim., is this "normal" with this little fellow?
DJT2020 wrote:
I've been playing around with my new X100VI, and noticed that it gets warm. I am shooting RAW + fine jpeg files, and using Reala film sim., is this "normal" with this little fellow?
Aug 10, 2024 at 07:11 PM
p.27 #3X100VI first impressions + running commentary
DJT2020 wrote:
I've been playing around with my new X100VI, and noticed that it gets warm. I am shooting RAW + fine jpeg files, and using Reala film sim., is this "normal" with this little fellow?
Noticed this on my new VI after shooting with it a bit yesterday. Looks like it’s normal.
Aug 10, 2024 at 07:25 PM
p.27 #4X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Thanks guys, I don't like that it runs on the warm side, but glad to hear that it is considered "normal" for the IV.
Aug 11, 2024 at 05:32 AM
p.27 #5X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Just received my backordered Fujifilm lens adapter, hood, and 49mm protective filter with filter cap. With the exception of possibly getting a thumb rest, I'm good to go with this little bugger.
Aug 15, 2024 at 07:24 AM
p.27 #6X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Unless Scott protests, we should use this thread for folks like me who are new X100 users or existing users with new X100VIs. It’s a great thread and starting a new one just for *my thoughts* feels unnecessary and self-indulgent.
https://i.imgur.com/6FIjC9p.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KEENSN8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/huSwedv.jpg
Lazy initial takeaways...
1) This thing rules.
2) The AF does not rule.
3) These menus aren’t as bad as everyone says, but what is up with the UI & typography?
4) Film Simulations are great, but maybe there are too many of them and not enough difference between some of them? Can you hide these? Can you increase the scroll speed when using the lens dial?
5) Battery life is giving me Sony A7R2 flashbacks. Painful.
6) The Fuji X app is better than any app Sony has shipped but it still sorta sucks?
6) The rumored Medium Format version of this is probably going to sell like hotcakes (for a camera of its price point).
7) More pictures and less of my babbling!
https://i.imgur.com/va9krS9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HKHCsP4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XLFJI5U.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/omFuwTp.jpg
Only used this thing for a day, and given how busy my day career has been lately, I’ll likely only get to extensively test it on the weekends until the holidays hit. I’ve had the most AF success in single point, single capture mode. Tracking has been a bust, and even letting the camera sorta guess what you want to be in focus in single shot mode is a crapshoot. Everything here is SOOC.
https://i.imgur.com/6FIjC9p.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KEENSN8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/huSwedv.jpg
Lazy initial takeaways...
1) This thing rules.
2) The AF does not rule.
3) These menus aren’t as bad as everyone says, but what is up with the UI & typography?
4) Film Simulations are great, but maybe there are too many of them and not enough difference between some of them? Can you hide these? Can you increase the scroll speed when using the lens dial?
5) Battery life is giving me Sony A7R2 flashbacks. Painful.
6) The Fuji X app is better than any app Sony has shipped but it still sorta sucks?
6) The rumored Medium Format version of this is probably going to sell like hotcakes (for a camera of its price point).
7) More pictures and less of my babbling!
https://i.imgur.com/va9krS9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HKHCsP4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XLFJI5U.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/omFuwTp.jpg
Only used this thing for a day, and given how busy my day career has been lately, I’ll likely only get to extensively test it on the weekends until the holidays hit. I’ve had the most AF success in single point, single capture mode. Tracking has been a bust, and even letting the camera sorta guess what you want to be in focus in single shot mode is a crapshoot. Everything here is SOOC.
Sep 03, 2024 at 10:53 PM
p.27 #7X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Post away, it was made to mostly be a chatter thread about the X100VI with my thoughts leading it off!
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single point
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single point
Sep 04, 2024 at 09:16 AM
p.27 #8X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?
Sep 05, 2024 at 10:16 AM
p.27 #9X100VI first impressions + running commentary
saxguy wrote:
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?
Capture One is still the better raw demosaic-er vs LR. No reason you can't shoot RAW, all the film sim stuff can be easily done in post when you want to.
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?
Capture One is still the better raw demosaic-er vs LR. No reason you can't shoot RAW, all the film sim stuff can be easily done in post when you want to.
Sep 05, 2024 at 10:38 AM
p.27 #10X100VI first impressions + running commentary
saxguy wrote:
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?
I use both my XT4 and X100V as RAW+JPG cameras, and I usually edit the RAW file because the white balance and dynamic range are able to be better controlled than using a JPG.
I see no reason to use the camera only in RAW mode.
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?
I use both my XT4 and X100V as RAW+JPG cameras, and I usually edit the RAW file because the white balance and dynamic range are able to be better controlled than using a JPG.
I see no reason to use the camera only in RAW mode.
Sep 05, 2024 at 10:51 AM
p.27 #11X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Capture One is still the better raw demosaic-er vs LR. No reason you can't shoot RAW, all the film sim stuff can be easily done in post when you want to.
Amy experience with DXO Pure Raw 4? It looks like their advanced processing in that version isn’t yet compatible with the X-Trans sensor.
saxguy wrote
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?Amy experience with DXO Pure Raw 4? It looks like their advanced processing in that version isn’t yet compatible with the X-Trans sensor.
Sep 05, 2024 at 02:20 PM
p.27 #12X100VI first impressions + running commentary
saxguy wrote:
Capture One is still the better raw demosaic-er vs LR. No reason you can't shoot RAW, all the film sim stuff can be easily done in post when you want to.Amy experience with DXO Pure Raw 4? It looks like their advanced processing in that version isn’t yet compatible with the X-Trans sensor.
Nope, I'm a LR guy through and through.
The JPEGs are quite editable, which is what I would do...give them the last little punch up in LR. You simply cannot replicate DR400 in post by taking a single image. DR400 is what makes Fuji JPEGs better than any other brand's JPEGs.
RoamingScott wrote
saxguy wrote
Any thoughts on using the X100VI as a RAW only camera? Also, is the consensus that sharpness and contrast when editing RAW files is better with Capture One than Lightroom?Nope, I'm a LR guy through and through.
The JPEGs are quite editable, which is what I would do...give them the last little punch up in LR. You simply cannot replicate DR400 in post by taking a single image. DR400 is what makes Fuji JPEGs better than any other brand's JPEGs.
Sep 05, 2024 at 02:21 PM
p.27 #13X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single point
It is not totally useless (but mostly) and I’m used to a Sony A9. When I got the X100VI I was kind of disappointed with the AF even though I knew it won’t be as good as my A9, not even close.
But after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well. In other words, I can use it like my A9. Yes, sometimes there are some photos out of focus but in general the hit rate is around 80-90%.
What didn‘t work well were the remaining AF modes (single, zone, all) when using AF-C. These modes were driving me nuts as the AF selected anything but my kids and it was hunting like hell. So, in these cases I fully agree with you that AF-C is useless.
If you shoot static objects I‘d probably also use AF-S as it seems to be a bit faster in getting focus.
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single point
It is not totally useless (but mostly) and I’m used to a Sony A9. When I got the X100VI I was kind of disappointed with the AF even though I knew it won’t be as good as my A9, not even close.
But after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well. In other words, I can use it like my A9. Yes, sometimes there are some photos out of focus but in general the hit rate is around 80-90%.
What didn‘t work well were the remaining AF modes (single, zone, all) when using AF-C. These modes were driving me nuts as the AF selected anything but my kids and it was hunting like hell. So, in these cases I fully agree with you that AF-C is useless.
If you shoot static objects I‘d probably also use AF-S as it seems to be a bit faster in getting focus.
Sep 05, 2024 at 02:47 PM
p.27 #14X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Woody84 wrote:
It is not totally useless (but mostly) and I’m used to a Sony A9. When I got the X100VI I was kind of disappointed with the AF even though I knew it won’t be as good as my A9, not even close.
But after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well....Show more →
I messed with tracking in a similar config to the one described, and found it was indeed the best way to pop off shots. I found face detect better than eye for whatever reason.
The awful irony is I'm now enjoying the MF-only method on the ZF more than the sluggish AF of the Fuji In many cases I'm missing less shots too!
RoamingScott wrote
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single pointBut after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well....Show more →
I messed with tracking in a similar config to the one described, and found it was indeed the best way to pop off shots. I found face detect better than eye for whatever reason.
The awful irony is I'm now enjoying the MF-only method on the ZF more than the sluggish AF of the Fuji
In many cases I'm missing less shots too!Sep 05, 2024 at 02:59 PM
p.27 #15X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Woody84 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single pointBut after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well. In other words, I can use it like my A9. Yes, sometimes there are some photos out of focus but in general the hit rate is around 80-90%.
What didn‘t work well were the remaining AF modes (single, zone, all) when using AF-C. These modes were driving me nuts as the AF selected anything but my kids and it was hunting like hell. So, in these cases I fully agree with you that AF-C is useless.
If you shoot static objects I‘d probably also use AF-S as it seems to be a bit faster in getting focus.
The awful irony is I'm now enjoying the MF-only method on the ZF more than the sluggish AF of the Fuji
In many cases I'm missing less shots too!Can the Zf be configured to release the shutter automatically upon focus confirmation in manual focus mode?
Sep 05, 2024 at 11:34 PM
p.27 #16X100VI first impressions + running commentary
saxguy wrote:
It is not totally useless (but mostly) and I’m used to a Sony A9. When I got the X100VI I was kind of disappointed with the AF even though I knew it won’t be as good as my A9, not even close.
But after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well. In other words, I can use it like my A9. Yes, sometimes there are some photos out of focus but in general the hit rate is around 80-90%.
What didn‘t work well were the remaining AF modes (single, zone, all) when using AF-C. These modes were driving me nuts as the AF selected anything but my kids and it was hunting like hell. So, in these cases I fully agree with you that AF-C is useless.
If you shoot static objects I‘d probably also use AF-S as it seems to be a bit faster in getting focus.I messed with tracking in a similar config to the one described, and found it was indeed the best way to pop off shots. I found face detect better than eye for whatever reason.
The awful irony is I'm now enjoying the MF-only method on the ZF more than the sluggish AF of the Fuji In many cases I'm missing less shots too!Can the Zf be configured to release the shutter automatically upon focus confirmation in manual focus mode?
No but that would be kinda cool!
RoamingScott wrote
Woody84 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Glad you're liking it, even if you're realizing just how useless the camera is outside of AF-S single pointBut after playing around with the settings (e. g. Boost on, AF+MF off, set focus priority, Eye-AF, AF-C as well as tracking/wide) I‘m really satisfied with the AF. Would like to mention that I take only pictures of my kids/family.
With Tracking/Wide I set the focus point directly on my kids and it will track them really well. In other words, I can use it like my A9. Yes, sometimes there are some photos out of focus but in general the hit rate is around 80-90%.
What didn‘t work well were the remaining AF modes (single, zone, all) when using AF-C. These modes were driving me nuts as the AF selected anything but my kids and it was hunting like hell. So, in these cases I fully agree with you that AF-C is useless.
If you shoot static objects I‘d probably also use AF-S as it seems to be a bit faster in getting focus.
The awful irony is I'm now enjoying the MF-only method on the ZF more than the sluggish AF of the Fuji
In many cases I'm missing less shots too!No but that would be kinda cool!
Sep 06, 2024 at 07:47 AM
p.27 #17X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Can the Zf be configured to release the shutter automatically upon focus confirmation in manual focus mode?
I haven't tried it since I repurchased the Zf but I was able to do focus trap back in December when I had it. I think this will do it.
[Custom Settings Menu]
a2 AF-S priority selection > Focus
a6 AF activation > AF-ON only > Out-of-focus release Disabled
I haven't tried it since I repurchased the Zf but I was able to do focus trap back in December when I had it. I think this will do it.
[Custom Settings Menu]
a2 AF-S priority selection > Focus
a6 AF activation > AF-ON only > Out-of-focus release Disabled
Sep 07, 2024 at 06:06 PM
p.27 #18X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Used my X100VI for the third time after I got it in June. Used mostly the film sim bracket (Astia, Nostalgic Neg and Acros G). Can't wait to go on vacation with this camera.
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174864766.gL3dWBXW.1_DSF4472.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174866636.aJFapCu7.1_DSF6558.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867331.t6ZWWpAP.1_DSF6769_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867559.fgEnQYh3.1_DSF7310_Nik.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867846.j9ScbGwN.1_DSF5532.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867589.FGfhcaiy.1_DSF4496copy.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174864767.UnhmCYaU.1_DSF6412.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174864766.gL3dWBXW.1_DSF4472.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174866636.aJFapCu7.1_DSF6558.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867331.t6ZWWpAP.1_DSF6769_DxO.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867559.fgEnQYh3.1_DSF7310_Nik.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867846.j9ScbGwN.1_DSF5532.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174867589.FGfhcaiy.1_DSF4496copy.jpg
https://a4.pbase.com/o12/30/64330/1/174864767.UnhmCYaU.1_DSF6412.jpg
Sep 07, 2024 at 06:53 PM
p.27 #19X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Today in "Scott was Right," this USB side door is JANKY AF. It feels like it's bound to break. There's just enough play to it. It's not a snug enough fit IMO. I haven't used the Ricoh GRIII but this thing feels like a god-tier P&S. Internal storage, faster AF motors and a slightly bigger battery would make this thing perfect. Oh, and better build quality.
https://i.imgur.com/sPPHP3A.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aeww8dJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UIx8GIP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tivVeL4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sPPHP3A.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aeww8dJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UIx8GIP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tivVeL4.jpg
Sep 07, 2024 at 11:22 PM
p.27 #20X100VI first impressions + running commentary
The things that detract from the VI are so annoying because it’s so close to just being the all time king of P&S cams but it just feels like they tried to cut corners in the build for no good reason, or didn't take the opportunity to fix QoL stuff from the V. It all ends up feeling a bit mailed in if you used the V for any length of time.
A half height leather case would fix the usb door annoyances in the field at least.
RomanMF wrote:
Today in "Scott was Right," this USB side door is JANKY AF. It feels like it's bound to break. There's just enough play to it. It's not a snug enough fit IMO. I haven't used the Ricoh GRIII but this thing feels like a god-tier P&S. Internal storage, faster AF motors and a slightly bigger battery would make this thing perfect. Oh, and better build quality.
https://i.imgur.com/sPPHP3A.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aeww8dJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UIx8GIP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tivVeL4.jpg
A half height leather case would fix the usb door annoyances in the field at least.
RomanMF wrote:
Today in "Scott was Right," this USB side door is JANKY AF. It feels like it's bound to break. There's just enough play to it. It's not a snug enough fit IMO. I haven't used the Ricoh GRIII but this thing feels like a god-tier P&S. Internal storage, faster AF motors and a slightly bigger battery would make this thing perfect. Oh, and better build quality.
https://i.imgur.com/sPPHP3A.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aeww8dJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UIx8GIP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tivVeL4.jpg
Sep 08, 2024 at 09:45 AM