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p.2 #1 · HERE IT IS new rebel


Kevin Yong wrote:
Compared with 10D and 20D - I'm wondering how hard it will be to adjust ISO, exposure compensation, appeture, focus point, focus and metering modes.

These are the things I need to adust on the fly. Don't mind using menus for most other things. Would be great not to have to go through several menus to find the mirror lock funtion though.

It's so FUN when there are new toys around...


From the looks of it, changing the ISO should be easy. I suspect that we'll have to wait for Phil at DPR to do a report, since he does a good job of describing the functions when he reviews a camera (even if he can't moderate a forum too well).



Feb 16, 2005 at 08:42 PM
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Kevin Yong wrote:
Compared with 10D and 20D - I'm wondering how hard it will be to adjust ISO, exposure compensation, appeture, focus point, focus and metering modes.



it's pretty easy on the existing rebel (mk1 ) being as this is an entry level DSLR, I don't see them making it any harder



Feb 16, 2005 at 08:42 PM
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p.2 #3 · HERE IT IS new rebel


unclebobo wrote:
let's see, 2nd curtain sync, same speed and buffering as a D30 (and 10D I think) MLU (without a hack), ETTL-II, FEC (again, without a hack)...hmmmm

anybody want to buy a DReb mk1? me thinks it's time for a new camera, plastic or not the performance will be an improvement over my Dreb and 30D


And, slightly smaller and lighter! Looks like a 20D Jr., but with few features missing. Kudos to Canon on this one, if it performs as well as Canon's other DSLR entries have done.



Feb 16, 2005 at 08:44 PM
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it's pretty easy on the existing rebel (mk1 ) being as this is an entry level DSLR, I don't see them making it any harder

I have never used the rebel. I have read that changing some of the settings can be a little more involved than on the 10D and 20D because it lacks the wheel on the back which I find really useful.




Feb 16, 2005 at 08:47 PM
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p.2 #5 · HERE IT IS new rebel


it look's like a realy nice camera...gotta stick withthe 10D just one more year...AAAHHHGGG!!! lol


Feb 16, 2005 at 08:52 PM
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p.2 #6 · HERE IT IS new rebel


unclebobo wrote:
...Looks like a 20D Jr., but with few features missing....


Hmmm, what's important that's missing from the 20D?



Feb 16, 2005 at 08:57 PM
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p.2 #7 · HERE IT IS new rebel


What's missing depends on what you're going to use the camera for....

- smaller buffer and slower fps
- 7 vs 9 point focus point on the 20D
- not sure if the AI SERVO is "weakened" as it mentions "for predictive tracking of subjects approaching at up to 50kph up to 10m away" - not sure what the exact capabities are on the 20D
- plastic body but irregardless the body is tough if it's the same quality as the 300D

What the XT does have over the 20D...

- might be a bit smaller and lighter than the 20D
- infared remote capability



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:07 PM
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p.2 #8 · HERE IT IS new rebel


What else does the camera have over the 10D besides the ISO 1600 being like ISO 800 and the 8MP. Ok faster buffer too. Does it focus as fast as the 20D?


Feb 16, 2005 at 09:08 PM
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p.2 #9 · HERE IT IS new rebel


RoyPertchi wrote:
Hmmm, what's important that's missing from the 20D?


a bit of a misquote there...10DFT said it looks like a 20d jr. I don't have a 20d, and haven't "seen" the rebXT. With all the features that Smeagol gave, I don't see much of a difference at all.

Kevin
as far as the ease of changing ISO, WB etc, it's actually easier on the Dreb than it is on the d30 (push the 'up' button (where the scroll wheel should be) and turn the command dial. easy.



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:11 PM
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p.2 #10 · HERE IT IS new rebel


Sory unclebobo, I editied the FM quote thing and erased the wrong part :-)

Yeah, I'm a recent 20d purchaser and I tend to be a slow and methodical shooter, so I might have gone for this new 20D lite if it had been available... Oh well, I think the 20D looks nicer :-)



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:15 PM
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The 20D does have a few advantages over this new camera such as the more accurate 9 point focus system. It appears that the new Rebel retains the same 7-point focus system, though it may be improved over the last model. The 20D made a good point over its improved AF performance.

The 20D also gives you ISO 50 and 3200 if I'm not mistaken. And you can't forget the magnesium alloy body - I prefer that.

But I really like this new addition to Canon's lineup. It looks like another Home Run for Canon.



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:23 PM
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hithesh123 wrote:
yeah, it looks like that. I am expecting slightly better optics. lets see.


Optics? What optics?



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:25 PM
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p.2 #13 · HERE IT IS new rebel


The 20D doesn't have ISO 50 but does have ISO 3200 (or H). The XT can also do this by changing the exposure and such manually to emulate the same thing.

But agree with 10DFT, Nikon comes out with the D2Hs which has a lot of improvements but a lot of Nikon users are puzzled at why the resolution wasn't bumped up ... I know, MP isn't everything nowadays but it's definetly a big seller for most of the consumers nowadays. This really sets Canon up very nicely unless Nikon has some more surprises up it's sleeves for PMA and who knows what else Canon may come out with (hopefully some more lenses is what I'm looking forward to).



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:27 PM
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p.2 #14 · HERE IT IS new rebel


RoyPertchi wrote:
Yeah, I'm a recent 20d purchaser and I tend to be a slow and methodical shooter, so I might have gone for this new 20D lite if it had been available... Oh well, I think the 20D looks nicer :-)


Maybe me spending all my money last year on glass was a good thing . This year it's time for a body upgrade....now which to keep for a backup the worthless (as far as resale value) D30, or soon to be worthless DReb mk1? (again, resale value...they are both still great cameras)



Feb 16, 2005 at 09:27 PM
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Hmmm.....

"The Canon EOS Rebel XT digital camera comes complete with Canon NB -2LH battery pack, charger, USB cable, video cable, wide embroidered anti-slip neck strap"

End of the line for BP511?



Feb 16, 2005 at 10:05 PM
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Canonfan wrote:
, the only thing I found to be more of a PITA on the dRebel than 10D to adjust is the aperature.

Richard


You are right, changing the apeture can be a PITA, but I almost always shoot in AV, so it's cake for me.



Feb 16, 2005 at 10:13 PM
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Tanner wrote:
Nikon comes out with the D2Hs which has a lot of improvements but a lot of Nikon users are puzzled at why the resolution wasn't bumped up ... I know, MP isn't everything nowadays but it's definetly a big seller for most of the consumers nowadays.


The D2Hs is not designed for consumers. It is designed for press photographers, especially sports press photographers. Newspaper work doesn't need higher resolution.



Feb 16, 2005 at 10:15 PM
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p.2 #18 · HERE IT IS new rebel


The 10D still has build quality and a better viefinder. The performance of this reb is kinda nice. Can't see what is lacking .... except if the custom functions are still cripled. This will knock the stuffing out of D70 sales.


Feb 16, 2005 at 10:19 PM
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p.2 #19 · HERE IT IS new rebel


someone ought to add "DARK FRAME SUBTRACTION" to the list of added features.


Feb 16, 2005 at 10:22 PM
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p.2 #20 · HERE IT IS new rebel


This is very interesting. I was planning on upgrading from the 300D to the 20D later this year. I may end up going Digital Rebel XT instead. The two biggest beefs I have about the 300D are the lack of AF mode control and slow CF writing speed, with lack of mirror lockup also on the list. According to the glowing PMA show report, the XT addresses all of these.

It will be very interesting to see the details emerge on XT as they start shipping.

I'm not sure I will like the XT being substantially smaller than the 300D. I used to use an Olympus C-2000Z, which is shaped like an SLR but very much smaller. That works well when you don't have 7 inches of lens hanging off the front of the camera. The 300D is already a bit too small to balance some of the glass I use, or to get a sufficiently confident grip. "25% smaller by volume" may be a bit misleading, I suppose. If uniformly shrunk, that means the XT's lineal dimensions are 91% of those of the 300D.



Feb 16, 2005 at 10:27 PM
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