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p.25 #1 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


Just an FYI - I asked Greentoe support to clarify if is or not OK to share the price paid and they said it is fine do to so as long as you don't divulge the retailer.


May 09, 2024 at 11:21 AM
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p.25 #2 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


Sorry, I've not read the entire thread.

Does anyone with an A7CR also shoot with a non-rangefinder style body? If so, do you find switching between the two EVF placements to affect your ability to track subjects? I need a replacement for my back up body (A9) that is slowly dying.



Jul 13, 2024 at 06:42 PM
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p.25 #3 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


berimbolo wrote:
Sorry, I've not read the entire thread.

Does anyone with an A7CR also shoot with a non-rangefinder style body? If so, do you find switching between the two EVF placements to affect your ability to track subjects? I need a replacement for my back up body (A9) that is slowly dying.


I have both types of bodies.
For shorter (100mm or less) you won't notice much of a change.
For the big guns, 200-600 or the other great white lens, it's a bit different have the view finder off to the side.
It throws off my muscle memory, and I have a tougher time finding a smaller subject, like a robin in a tree.




Jul 13, 2024 at 07:40 PM
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p.25 #4 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


davev wrote:
I have both types of bodies.
For shorter (100mm or less) you won't notice much of a change.
For the big guns, 200-600 or the other great white lens, it's a bit different have the view finder off to the side.
It throws off my muscle memory, and I have a tougher time finding a smaller subject, like a robin in a tree.



Thanks! That is what I was expecting. I may rent one and see if it effects me enough to be an issue.



Jul 13, 2024 at 07:41 PM
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p.25 #5 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


Now I have to come back to this thread in order to "eat my words", since I have purchased an A7Cr. And all I can say, so far, is that I can confidently use its EVF for manually focusing my lenses (this was my main fear and point against this camera body, apart from its MSRP). As for the "selfie-style" LCD screen, it stays in reversed position and I consider the camera as LCD-free one (this is a little lie, I seldom use it to change menu settings when needed, but I also use the EVF for this as well).

And it does make a size/bulk difference in my usage against my A7Riv camera body.

Now, I should mention the price I paid, which is a bit far from the MSRP for EU. Bought it from the grey market store panamoz for 2.5k EUR. At this price, I guess it is a good choice these days.



Jul 21, 2024 at 08:45 AM
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p.25 #6 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


I also updated an A7Riv to the A7CR and had similar concerns about the lower quality EVF. In the end, I overcame my reservations and went ahead anyway. In practical use, I find I quickly stopped thinking about the EVF quality as the supplied EVF is perfectly adequate. Would I like a higher resolution EVF one day? Yes. Would I like every parameter of the camera to be even better, one day? Yes. Is it stopping me from taking the photos I always have done, with the pleasure I have always had? No.
Two further observations: the smaller body is causing me to favour smaller lenses. No surprise there, and I have plenty of lighter lenses that fit the bill. The second surprise for me was that the "new, simpler, clearer" Sony menu system is even more complicated and intricate than the one before! This last point is not about the A7CR itself, of course, but I do wish Sony had the equivalent of a Steve Jobs with his unrelenting emphasis on interface simplicity.



Jul 24, 2024 at 08:16 AM
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p.25 #7 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


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Once I get my rental 70-200 next month I will try it on this body with the Smallrig grip and im sure it will be okay but just okay. Today I tend to think for comfort maybe the Batis 135 as the longest you feel comfortable with handling. But I would like to try bigger in the 70-200


Well, many of us APSC shooters for wildlife use A6600 or A6700 cameras with the FE 100-400 +1.4TC or the 200-600. No big deal at all. I will soon know what it is in the reverse mode since I am adding the A7R5 to my collection.

As far as baseplate is concerned I have always shot the APSC cameras with a Gariz leather half case. The base of the half-case adds 9mm to the height of the camera so I don't need to add a Smallrig base and my camera is protected,



Jul 29, 2024 at 11:17 AM
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p.25 #8 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


I'm a happy enough A7CR owner having moved into Sony from Panasonic Four Thirds. (A camera with good auto-focus is quite the novelty.) The camera has its issues but overall is an amazing package.

Sorry I haven't read all 25 pages of this thread, but was there any other data presented to suggest that the A7CR has had poor sales or is not meeting Sony's expectations besides what the original poster noted about unsold A7CRs on the buy/sell forum?



Jul 29, 2024 at 04:06 PM
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p.25 #9 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


I just purchased an a7C R, after long deliberation, going through countless videos and articles, and comparing it to the a7R V in a camera store. The prices are quite similiar in Europe at this point, but I can live with that.

Ultimately, I can accept the compromises, as I value and appreciate the lower weight and compactness more than what the a7R V provides. The resolution of the a7R V's viewfinder and screen are noticeably better, which is to be expected when inspecting the specifications, but the a7C R's is more than adequate for my use. It is still good, in my opinion, as in the finder seems quite sharp, although the resolution is quite low. I have no problems with the smaller viewfinder, whether looking through it horisontally or vertically, and also have no problems manually focusing. My vision is great, and I do not use any glasses, but people with lesser vision or glasses might be more hindered.

Furthermore, I actually do not mind the articulating screen. I thought I would be bothered by it when framing horisontally, but it works just fine. It will probably be a bit annoying when using a camera upside down on a tripod, but I do not do that so often. Also do not mind one card shot; I only photograph passionately, I can accept the risk, and I also transfer images once I get home from any walk or trip. Joysticks are control dials are interchangable for me, so I do not mind the lack of a joystick. I prefer to adjust most settings manually, and I usually do not need to change more than the exposure and focus point, so I am fine with fewer dials.

Previously, I actually had an a7R V, but I decided to give Fujifilm X a try with their X-T5. I have always admired the Fuji X cameras due to the prominent dials and film simulations, and I wanted something lighter as well. It was a great process, and I do not regret experimenting with Fuji, but I did miss the better image quality. I was originally going to get another a7R V, but I think the a7C R is a great middleground.

I will probably pair the a7C R with the Laowa 9mm f/5.6 FF RL, which I kept, Sigma 17mm f/4 DN, Sony 40mm f/2.5 G and Sigma 90mm f/2.8 DN. Might add the Olympus 200mm f/5, when I occasionally need a longer tele, but I mostly use wide to standard for landscape and architecture.
I generally enjoy primes more than zooms due to size, weight and to make due with certain focal lengths, and approximately doubling the focal length usually works for me.



Oct 02, 2024 at 08:00 AM
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p.25 #10 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


Hello, I have an A7CR and was wondering if other users can verify this for me:

When you flip the screen out sideways, does the screen become perfectly parallel with the rest of the body? It seems mines doesnt open all the way flat with the rest of the body. there is a slight angle inwards when the screen is fully extended although it closes flush with the body just fine.



Oct 02, 2024 at 09:10 PM
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p.25 #11 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


This thread has legs. I wanted a small color travel camera to complement my M11 Monochrom. The emphasis here is on small. I have a larger color camera with outstanding performance. I just received the A7CR and so far I’ve been shocked at how small it is, how noisy the shutter is and how 2014 the EVF is.. That said, it is small and has much of the performance of my A7Rv…which I no longer have. I’ve sold many large GM lenses and am now looking at what lenses to use. Currently I have the 21, 35 & 90mm Loxia, Sony 55mm f/1.8 Sonnar and as of today, the 40mm f/2.8 G. Manual focus is easier than I thought, but not the joy that it was with the A7Rv. I’m looking to use this as a travel camera with a maximum of two lenses. Right now, those two lenses would be the 21mm Loxia and 40mm G. I primarily use the 21mm at f/5.6-8.0 and zone focus.


Oct 02, 2024 at 09:45 PM
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p.25 #12 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


ymphoto wrote:
Hello, I have an A7CR and was wondering if other users can verify this for me:

When you flip the screen out sideways, does the screen become perfectly parallel with the rest of the body? It seems mines doesnt open all the way flat with the rest of the body. there is a slight angle inwards when the screen is fully extended although it closes flush with the body just fine.


Mine is not parallel, it has around 175 degrees to the camera body (instead of 180 degrees, you know).



Oct 03, 2024 at 03:35 AM
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p.25 #13 · Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"


Mine is not totally parallel either, but only barely. Still, this major flaw has caused me to miss thousands of shots of the elusive yellow breasted white boobie thrush hawk.




Oct 03, 2024 at 09:37 AM
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