Been enjoying the 35mm apo although haven't used it enough to share many photos yet. Just ordered the 50mm apo. I wanted sharp over the nokton's bokeh. With that said, I'm hoping for a Black Friday sale for the 40mm f1.2 to replace my 40mm f2 SE. Thanks everyone for sharing the images here. You're increasing my retirement age lol.
I have a Q3 43 on the way, which I expect will become my daily carry. The Zf will become my manual-focus / wide-angle camera.
My initial inclination is to keep my Zf, but go from four to two MF lenses.
My list of MF lenses:
Voigtlander 35mm f2 APO
Voigtlander 50mm f2 APO
Voigtlander 40mm f1.2
Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4
At first, I was thinking that I’d keep the Thypoch and the 35mm APO…
But now I’m thinking it might be best to part with the two APO lenses, given the APO 43 on the incoming Q… leaving me with the two lenses (28 and 40) that I’d say exhibit the most “character” and one that has allows for extremely shallow depth-of-field.
I’d be sad to see the two APO Voigtlanders go, so I may hold on to them for a while… make sure the 43 is for me… especially given how difficult it would be to get them back.
To get my head around the utility/viability of the new Q3, I went out the past couple of days exclusively with my 40 1.2, and I was quickly reminded of how much I enjoy this lens.
I will never understand the appeal of a $7000 daily carry that is just as big if not bigger than a ZF and small lens and way bigger than other options like the X100 type cams.
Either way I certainly wouldn’t divest excellent discontinued lenses before a long term relationship with the replacement.
Raptor_Fan76 wrote:
I have a Q3 43 on the way, which I expect will become my daily carry. The Zf will become my manual-focus / wide-angle camera.
My initial inclination is to keep my Zf, but go from four to two MF lenses.
My list of MF lenses:
Voigtlander 35mm f2 APO
Voigtlander 50mm f2 APO
Voigtlander 40mm f1.2
Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4
At first, I was thinking that I’d keep the Thypoch and the 35mm APO…
But now I’m thinking it might be best to part with the two APO lenses, given the APO 43 on the incoming Q… leaving me with the two lenses (28 and 40) that I’d say exhibit the most “character” and one that has allows for extremely shallow depth-of-field.
I’d be sad to see the two APO Voigtlanders go, so I may hold on to them for a while… make sure the 43 is for me… especially given how difficult it would be to get them back.
To get my head around the utility/viability of the new Q3, I went out the past couple of days exclusively with my 40 1.2, and I was quickly reminded of how much I enjoy this lens.
Raptor_Fan76 wrote:
I have a Q3 43 on the way, which I expect will become my daily carry. The Zf will become my manual-focus / wide-angle camera.
My initial inclination is to keep my Zf, but go from four to two MF lenses.
My list of MF lenses:
Voigtlander 35mm f2 APO
Voigtlander 50mm f2 APO
Voigtlander 40mm f1.2
Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4
At first, I was thinking that I’d keep the Thypoch and the 35mm APO…
But now I’m thinking it might be best to part with the two APO lenses, given the APO 43 on the incoming Q… leaving me with the two lenses (28 and 40) that I’d say exhibit the most “character” and one that has allows for extremely shallow depth-of-field.
I’d be sad to see the two APO Voigtlanders go, so I may hold on to them for a while… make sure the 43 is for me… especially given how difficult it would be to get them back.
To get my head around the utility/viability of the new Q3, I went out the past couple of days exclusively with my 40 1.2, and I was quickly reminded of how much I enjoy this lens.
The Q3 43 with the 60 Mp and the 43mm APO lens is pretty damn incredible. I think you will be in heaven. Add in the simplicity with real manual controls not forced PASM on the ZF and it will be a unique experience. I don't think the APO Voigt's are going to be that hard to find honestly if you ever do want them again.
They are both still in stock at CameraQuest I think this board drove more intrest that there is actually demand for them. They are both back on sale
I’ve owned both the Q2 and Q3 in the past, and now own the ZF. The Zf is significantly heavier (30% or more with a lens attached) and less ergonomic than the Q3. In terms of as a daily carry, I would rank the Q closer to the X100vi (which I’ve also owned) than I would the Zf.
As much as I love the Zf, the reality is that it is basically a Z6 without a grip. I love the thing, but it is a pain to haul around compared to the Q… it’s just not close.
Then you have to add in two additional lenses that you would need to carry to obtain the same effective focal length to megapixel options you get with the Q.
The tactile quality of the materials used and the user experience is also superior with the Q. The menus are also better, but that’s not really relevant for this discussion
I totally understand the sticker shock people get when looking at the Q, but value is subjective the further you go up the luxury scale… and miniaturization across all forms of technology always costs more. There is, at the end of the day, no rational argument for spending 2-3x more for anything, so no expectation here in terms of swaying anyone’s opinion.
But the Q3s are exceptional cameras and for someone like me, who would prefer one, small, lightweight, and ergonomic camera to take with me literally everywhere… it can’t be beat.
The only reason I let go of the 28mm Q3 is that the 28/35/50 range that it effectively covers skewed further to the wide angle than my personal shooting habits required. I’ve been wanting something like the 43 to exist since first buying the Q2… it’s essentially the perfect camera for my personal shooting preferences. For that, I’m willing to pay a premium.
It also shouldn’t be overlooked that value retention is a real thing with Leica products… you can buy a Q3 today… use it for 18-24 months, and likely sell it for 20% less than you paid… you lose 40% of the value of a Zf the first time you click the shutter outside of the store.
Do the math, and the cost of using a Q vs. a Zf over a two year period isn’t as bad as it might first seem.
The same paradigm exists in the luxury watch market… you get way more value for the money when you buy a 3861 Omega Speedmaster vs a Rolex Daytona… but the Speedy (which I love dearly) depreciates by 35-45% the second you walk out the door. I’ve been lucky to have bought and sold a few Rolexes in my day, and I’ve never sold a Rolex for less than I originally paid at retail.
The good news is that every camera doesn’t need to be for everyone and more options is always a good thing 🙂
RoamingScott wrote:
I will never understand the appeal of a $7000 daily carry that is just as big if not bigger than a ZF and small lens and way bigger than other options like the X100 type cams.
Either way I certainly wouldn’t divest excellent discontinued lenses before a long term relationship with the replacement.
RustyRus wrote:
The Q3 43 with the 60 Mp and the 43mm APO lens is pretty damn incredible. I think you will be in heaven. Add in the simplicity with real manual controls not forced PASM on the ZF and it will be a unique experience. I don't think the APO Voigt's are going to be that hard to find honestly if you ever do want them again.
They are both still in stock at CameraQuest I think this board drove more intrest that there is actually demand for them. They are both back on sale
Thanks for passing on the CameraQuest news....but salt to the wound lol. I just paid more for a used copy of the 50 apo 48 hours ago! To top it off, the 40 f1.2 I'd consider next is one of two not on sale haha. This is perhaps a message to me that I have to stop collecting lenses....
RoamingScott wrote:
I will never understand the appeal of a $7000 daily carry that is just as big if not bigger than a ZF and small lens and way bigger than other options like the X100 type cams.
Either way I certainly wouldn’t divest excellent discontinued lenses before a long term relationship with the replacement.
Roaming rumbustiousness.
The Leica is in a different league to the Fujifilm.
I'll be keeping my Z mount Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 lens despite now having the Q3 43. They are very different lenses. Hell, I'll even keep my Z 40mm f/2!
I'll quote what I said in another thread, "Fool that I am, I traipsed around India with a couple of overpriced and underspecified Leicas: simply the greatest joy I've had with cameras in hand. There are those who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
We can stop now, reminder this is a Voigtlander image thread for Nikon cameras. Feel free to make a thread in the Nikon forum about how great the Q3 is
RoamingScott wrote:
We can stop now, reminder this is a Voigtlander image thread for Nikon cameras. Feel free to make a thread in the Nikon forum about how great the Q3 is
Roaming, remember it was you who started the comparison.
I think this board drove more intrest that there is actually demand for them. They are both back on sale 
