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Lance B wrote:
A Sony-free Nikon forum.


Someone mentioned there was a Big Boys club for that.


I know, I know - not really a big boys club without global shutter, but you know, just humour them.




Nov 30, 2023 at 09:02 PM
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duncang wrote:
Someone mentioned there was a Big Boys club for that.



There *is* a big boys club, just that Sony isn't part of it.

Took you a while to respond. Too much time taken up perusing the Nikon forums making sure you spread the Sony Gospel, making sure you spread the childish "mine's bigger than yours" mantra?



Dec 01, 2023 at 01:15 AM
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I started with a Nikon DSLR setup, then I ended getting into Sony mirrorless as a smaller travel setup, and now I jumped back into Nikon about a month ago with a Z8.

The best way I can compare my experience with Nikon and Sony is Nikon makes great cameras that take great photos and Sony makes good technology that take great photos. The Z8 closely reminds me of my Nikon DSLRS, it gets out of my way and let me take the photos I am trying to make. My Sony cameras feel more like using a tech gadget than
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The z8 is really tempting. I have 14mm Gm, 24mm Gm, 35mm f1.2 dg dn, 50mm Gm, 85mm dg dn. Will they work well on the z8 through an adapter? I mean vs using them on my a7m4, a7r5, what tradeoffs do I have to endure going to z8? I short mainly running kids burst mode afc. Is the af tracking in the z8 with adapted lens just as good? Does the ibis work seamlessly or do I have to program focal length?




Dec 01, 2023 at 03:51 AM
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Lance B wrote:
There *is* a big boys club, just that Sony isn't part of it.



Please don't group all of us Sony shooters together.

There are some of us that are respectful 🙂



Dec 01, 2023 at 06:44 AM
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Go read: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1816229

wind30 wrote:
The z8 is really tempting. I have 14mm Gm, 24mm Gm, 35mm f1.2 dg dn, 50mm Gm, 85mm dg dn. Will they work well on the z8 through an adapter? I mean vs using them on my a7m4, a7r5, what tradeoffs do I have to endure going to z8? I short mainly running kids burst mode afc. Is the af tracking in the z8 with adapted lens just as good? Does the ibis work seamlessly or do I have to program focal length?





Dec 01, 2023 at 07:36 AM
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wind30 wrote:
The z8 is really tempting. I have 14mm Gm, 24mm Gm, 35mm f1.2 dg dn, 50mm Gm, 85mm dg dn. Will they work well on the z8 through an adapter? I mean vs using them on my a7m4, a7r5, what tradeoffs do I have to endure going to z8? I short mainly running kids burst mode afc. Is the af tracking in the z8 with adapted lens just as good? Does the ibis work seamlessly or do I have to program focal length?


So you know exactly what cameras I am comparing, I am comparing a Sony a7rII and Sony a7rIVa to the Nikon Z8.

I am using the Megadap ETZ21 PRO adapter. IBIS works seamlessly with the adapter, you don't have to enter the focal length like with a dumb adapter. I would say IBIS is working just as well on Nikon, if not a bit better then Sony. Not having a mechanical shutter definitely helps critical sharpness too, so I am still trying to figure out what sharpness is from the electronic shutter vs what sharpness is from possibly better IBIS. Speaking of stabilization I do feel like my Nikon lenses with VR are more stable then the stabilization in my Sony 24-105 f4, or Sony 200-600 whether there mounted to a Sony camera or Nikon Z.

I don't have any of the GM prime lenses, or Sigma E lenses to directly compare. But with Sony 200-600 with and without the TC 1.4 I have found the AF on the Z8 using the adapter, just as good, if not maybe a bit better at times, as the lens performs on the a7rIV. I have used some F mount fast primes on the Z8 using the FTZ, such as the Nikon 85mm f1.4 and Sigma 28mm f1.4, and I have been happy with the AF performance. The AF seams to be working just as good if not better than any other body I have tried them on.

As for some things you might miss coming from Sony. I like Sonys continuous bracket timer, better than Nikons implementation if you like to shoot brackets. Nikon you either need to hold the shutter down for the whole bracket, or deal with a .5 sec delay between each photo in the bracket. You may also notice the difference in resolution. 45mp is more than enough resolution, but it's not 60mp. If you have grown accustom to 60mp you will notice the difference in crop ability. On Sony what ever you have on your back display is what you see when you switch to the EVF, on Nikon you can have one set of items displayed on your display, and another set of items displayed on the EVF. This can be a pro or con depending on your shooting preferences. Another pro / con depending on your preferences is the Nikon Z8 is definitely a larger camera. Especially with larger lenses I personally feel it feels better in my hands, but if you want you gear as small as possible you will notice the size increases. (Granted I believe the a7rV is a bit bigger then the a7rIV so you might not notice it as much) Also as well as the Megadap adapter works, it is still another piece of gear to deal with when changing lenses. (Just like a teleconverter)

If you don't already have Nikon gear, it might be worth renting one so you can directly compare to your current setup. For anyone thinking of picking up a Z8, I defiantly recommend picking up the bundle with the Z 24-120 f4 unless you really have no use for that focal length range. That lens hits almost all right boxes, it's got great image quality (especially for a zoom), the focal length range is very useful, AF works well, and the lens is relatively small and light weight.



Dec 01, 2023 at 11:41 AM
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Please don't group all of us Sony shooters together.

There are some of us that are respectful 🙂


Exactly. Been with Sony for years and but since Sony doesn't pay me, I have no issue moving to new system. In fact, just sold my A7rV and now have Z8 and all Sony lenses.


On separate note, still debating whether to keep Sony 20-40 F4 or switch it out to 24-120 F4 in Z-mount.

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ajamils wrote:
Exactly. Been with Sony for years and but since Sony doesn't pay me, I have no issue moving to new system. In fact, just sold my A7rV and now have Z8 and all Sony lenses.

On separate note, still debating whether to keep Sony 20-40 F4 or switch it out to 24-140 F4 in Z-mount.


I hope your new system brings you many years of great imaging. In my opinion the benefits of a stacked sensor in an all around use camera will be a big step up from the A7RV.

I say get the 24-120mm F/4 Nikon lens (the 140 was a typo yes?). It is one of the best (if not the best) lenses I have seen with that FL range. Plus, I am a big fan of staying with native glass in AF zooms, and Sony doesn't offer a competitive option in a lens of this type.

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Dec 01, 2023 at 01:19 PM
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Exactly. Been with Sony for years and but since Sony doesn't pay me, I have no issue moving to new system. In fact, just sold my A7rV and now have Z8 and all Sony lenses.

On separate note, still debating whether to keep Sony 20-40 F4 or switch it out to 24-140 F4 in Z-mount.


How is the adapter working so far?



Dec 01, 2023 at 01:39 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I say get the 24-120mm F/4 Nikon lens (the 140 was a typo yes?). It is one of the best (if not the best) lenses I have seen with that FL range. Plus, I am a big fan of staying with native glass in AF zooms, and Sony doesn't offer a competitive option in a lens of this type.


The charm of Sony version is that it starts at 20mm instead of the 24 but it is also shorter so 24-120 makes more sense as a one lens solution.

RoamingScott wrote:
How is the adapter working so far?

It's been great. A lot better than any previous adapters (on other systems). I've tried Sony, Sigma, Tamron and Samyang lenses and they all behave like native lens with all features working.



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I heard some rumor that Megadap was going under, but that doesn't seem to be the case...heard that on this forum, actually


Dec 01, 2023 at 03:03 PM
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lukeiam wrote:
I heard some rumor that Megadap was going under, but that doesn't seem to be the case...heard that on this forum, actually


I think this was the topic you are referring to.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1831610/0?keyword=Megadap#16385858

The original poster was complaining about customer support and then someone else said maybe they are closing. It sounds to me like pure speculation. There website is still operational and there product is still for sale on multiple sites.



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phinix wrote:
Decision made, Sony gear on sale, Nikon Zf pre-ordered
I picked body only as I dont know if 40/2 kit would be something to wait longer.
If lens production would delay it further, at least when they get bodies in stock, I would get it FCFS.
Then I'll get lens separately.


It has been shipped!
Should be in my hands on Wednesday
Time to pick some first lens quickly. 26mm/28mm or 40mm?



Dec 01, 2023 at 07:19 PM
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DWOfPaul wrote:
So you know exactly what cameras I am comparing, I am comparing a Sony a7rII and Sony a7rIVa to the Nikon Z8.

I am using the Megadap ETZ21 PRO adapter. IBIS works seamlessly with the adapter, you don't have to enter the focal length like with a dumb adapter. I would say IBIS is working just as well on Nikon, if not a bit better then Sony. Not having a mechanical shutter definitely helps critical sharpness too, so I am still trying to figure out what sharpness is from the electronic shutter vs what sharpness is from possibly better IBIS.
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Thanks for the detailed info.

I thought the Sony evf display can be set differently from the lcd.



Dec 01, 2023 at 07:36 PM
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phinix wrote:
It has been shipped!
Should be in my hands on Wednesday
Time to pick some first lens quickly. 26mm/28mm or 40mm?


Pick native lenses with clickable/declickable aperture rings on them. That will greatly enhance your shooting experience, and help make up a bit for the sparsity of configurable controls on the Zf.



Dec 01, 2023 at 07:49 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
Pick native lenses with clickable/declickable aperture rings on them. That will greatly enhance your shooting experience, and help make up a bit for the sparsity of configurable controls on the Zf.


Native with aperture ring? So anything but Nikon?
I only know Voigtlanders.



Dec 01, 2023 at 07:52 PM
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phinix wrote:
Native with aperture ring? So anything but Nikon?
I only know Voigtlanders.



For manual focus I think your some of the best lenses will be Voigtlander at this time. But there are many others.
https://www.zsystemuser.com/z-mount-lenses/third-party-lenses/third-party-manual-focus/

Viltrox is making some AF Z mount lenses with aperture rings.
https://www.zsystemuser.com/z-mount-lenses/third-party-lenses/third-party-autofocus-lense/viltrox-autofocus-lenses/

I think some of the Nikon, Z mount AF lenses may have a programable ring on them that can be set to aperture. Not a perfect solution, but it still fees up the on body controls.

It seems to me that the Zf is a big hit in the market. The lack of Nikon Z mount lenses with aperture rings will inspire third party manufactures to build them. Take your time as you transition over. Buy Native as the become available, and sell your adapted Sony lenses.



Dec 01, 2023 at 08:23 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
For manual focus I think your some of the best lenses will be Voigtlander at this time. But there are many others.
https://www.zsystemuser.com/z-mount-lenses/third-party-lenses/third-party-manual-focus/

Viltrox is making some AF Z mount lenses with aperture rings.
https://www.zsystemuser.com/z-mount-lenses/third-party-lenses/third-party-autofocus-lense/viltrox-autofocus-lenses/

I think some of the Nikon, Z mount AF lenses may have a programable ring on them that can be set to aperture. Not a perfect solution, but it still fees up the on body controls.

It seems to me that the Zf is a big hit in the market. The lack of Nikon Z mount lenses with aperture rings will inspire third party manufactures to build them. Take your
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I have one in mind, with this programmable ring - 105mm 2.8 Macro.
Only manual I will use will be Voigtlander, I love those lens, had many on Sony.

I loved my 21mm Color-Skopar on my Sony. Now I'm thinking to buy Nikon pancake 26/2.8. I'm not sure if I should go for 28/2.8 and save half of the money. I want wider lens, but still as compact as it can get. But would those 2mm difference be significant?
26mm - £439 used, £479 new
28mm - £224 used, £259 new




Dec 01, 2023 at 08:44 PM
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p.15 #19 · p.15 #19 · Anybody switched from Sony to Nikon?


I wonder if there is a corresponding thread: "Anybody switched from Nikon to Sony ?" on the Sony forum?
I shoot both, so don't have a horse in this race



Dec 01, 2023 at 10:23 PM
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graytrekker wrote:
I wonder if there is a corresponding thread: "Anybody switched from Nikon to Sony ?" on the Sony forum?
I shoot both, so don't have a horse in this race


Well, actually you have two horses.



Dec 01, 2023 at 10:36 PM
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