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Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread

  
 
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Charles Loy wrote:
Shirley, I have not seen it, all I know it is is listed as a case. Which is why I ask 'what is the concern with it?'

Thanks for your polite reply.


I have a link to the designer of Nikon’s latest cases and perhaps he can explain it better… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q39yGLPkMY



Sep 08, 2023 at 01:22 PM
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armd wrote:
I have a link to the designer of Nikon’s latest cases and perhaps he can explain it better… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q39yGLPkMY


Great, I am changing my order to two, so I can get two of the amazing sleeve case skum-wow Nikon pissy pouch.



Sep 08, 2023 at 03:03 PM
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p.4 #3 · Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread


Here's a video testing the resolution of this lens along with a comparison of the Sony 200-600 and Nikkor 800 Z lenses:




Sep 08, 2023 at 04:49 PM
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Be prepared to watch this video at 2x speed... that is some sloooow talking.
We'll know much more about how all of these lenses stack up and perform as more people use them in real shooting situations.
As a Nikon shooter, I continue to be impressed with Sony 200-600mm lens. When used with the A1, it continues to be a class leading optic. Of course, one has to enjoy the Sony bodies to make the most of the lens.
The Nikon 180-600 continues to do what Nikon has been doing. They have produced another remarkable product at a price that undercuts both Sony and Canon. In the past, Nikon was always the most expensive Japanese manufacturer of 35mm style cameras (I included place of origin bc Leica Germany has always been the most expensive). Enter today, and we find that Nikon is producing some of the best in class glass and camera bodies for less than both Sony and Canon. This is quite impressive when you consider that Nikon is also the smallest company (by a lot) of the three.

For those who might be interested in my own pathway... My Nikon 180-600 arrived today and I have decided to give it a pass... My dealer has a mile long list of people wanting the lens, so they were more than fine with my decision. My rationale relates to what is in my bag today and the direction I am heading with my photography.
1. I have the 800PF, 400 f4.5, 70-180, 17-28, and 1.4x. I've got the 180-600 range covered, just not in a zoom.
2. I have enjoyed the sharpness, detail, contrast, AF speed, and build of my S-series telephotos and do not want to compromise with any of the latter.
3. I like to carry all of my gear in the field and use wherever the muse takes me. I can pack all of my lenses and both the Z9 and Z8 in my TT Backlight 36L... a bag that is easy to carry on the back and will fit in most plane overhead bins.
4. Because of the latter, the 180-600 would be the odd duck out. I contemplated selling my 800PF or 400 4.5 to accommodate the 180-600, but after thinking about this and seeing the images posted to date, item #2 on my list led me to my decision.

I look forward to seeing some of the amazing work that owners of the 180-600 will produce... looks to be a winner of a lens.

cheers,
bruce



Sep 08, 2023 at 05:33 PM
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p.4 #5 · Official Nikon Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3 VR Image Thread


OwlsEyes wrote:
Be prepared to watch this video at 2x speed... that is some sloooow talking.
We'll know much more about how all of these lenses stack up and perform as more people use them in real shooting situations.
As a Nikon shooter, I continue to be impressed with Sony 200-600mm lens. When used with the A1, it continues to be a class leading optic. Of course, one has to enjoy the Sony bodies to make the most of the lens.
The Nikon 180-600 continues to do what Nikon has been doing. They have produced another remarkable product at a price that
...Show more

I am in a similar situation. In the past I kept thinking that zoom is more flexible but I found that at least for birds and most animal, I pretty much use only the longest end 90+% of the time anyway. The only time I find zoom very useful is when I shoot sport which is very rare. Like you, I already have 400 and 800mm prime on top of 100-400 (for when bird/animal is not a priority and I just want somthing light for the trip) so I kept thinking whether I really need this zoom. I also decided to pass
just because I am not sure where it would fit in with my gear and when I would need it.




Sep 08, 2023 at 07:02 PM
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z8 / 420mm f6 iso900








Sep 09, 2023 at 07:59 PM
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Too bad this guy didn't want to come out any further. Still a nice sample of a complex BG though.

250mm 5.6 iso1250








Sep 09, 2023 at 08:04 PM
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OwlsEyes wrote:
With the exception of the 400 f2.8S, 600 f4S, and 800 f6.3PF, Nikon does not send a durable, dare I say usable, case. They send a cloth pouch with no padding. Think of it as an develop made from a piece of fabric. I don't even think it is lint free, so I wouldn't even use it to clean a glass element.

For the record, Nikon did not include a case for their 200-500... a lens that is the F-mount parallel to the Z 180-600.


Actually, they did provide a "case" for the 200-500mm, but the new "case" for the Z lenses is even more resembling a cloth than the old drawstring pouches... or whatever you want to call these virtually useless cases.







Sep 10, 2023 at 12:40 AM
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I think they do protect the lens from being scratched. Some camera bags have rough internal surfaces that can over time wear the surface of the lens. However, it does require that the "case" or pouch is actually used.

The benefit is that the latest pouches take very little extra space. When my home has been under renovation (window replacement, etc.) I packed most of my gear into pouches and boxes with lids in order to avoid them exposed to large amounts of dust. In this case the new pouches allowed more dense packing of the gear in the boxes.

I suspect most people rarelt use the manufacturers' cases or pouches. So a large case just takes space to store, most of the time people use camera bags for transportation instead of cases. Tradeoffs, tradeoffs.

Nikon1960 wrote:
Actually, they did provide a "case" for the 200-500mm, but the new "case" for the Z lenses is even more resembling a cloth than the old drawstring pouches... or whatever you want to call these virtually useless cases.




Sep 10, 2023 at 03:29 AM
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OwlsEyes wrote:
Be prepared to watch this video at 2x speed... that is some sloooow talking.
We'll know much more about how all of these lenses stack up and perform as more people use them in real shooting situations.
As a Nikon shooter, I continue to be impressed with Sony 200-600mm lens. When used with the A1, it continues to be a class leading optic. Of course, one has to enjoy the Sony bodies to make the most of the lens.
The Nikon 180-600 continues to do what Nikon has been doing. They have produced another remarkable product at a price that
...Show more
I can remember going back and forth a bit in another thread with you. I don't recall which one and it could be a year or two ago, time passes so quickly. I was on one of my tired rants extolling the virtues of the zoom I was using. I pointed to some samples that I claimed I couldn't have gotten if I hadn't been carrying a zoom lens. Your argument at the time was you would pass on images rather than compromise on image quality. It appears you're sticking to your guns. The thing is, the more I use the 400 4.5 bare, and the more I learn to get closer to my subjects, the more I'm convinced that is the path to the best IQ I can afford. Yes, I might be missing the ideal framing here and there but it's not bothering me anywhere near as much as I'd expected. And the colors, contrast, and rendering of that 400, plus the ease of use, especially the ease of use, is addicting. I just go with what I can get. I'm certainly not getting paid to get every shot
So I don't know what I'll do when I get the call from my LCS that the lens is in. I know I want it, but do I need it ? The question I'm asking myself now is, do I put those $$ towards saving for the 800 6.3 ?
As for that video, I got through about 3 minutes of it and decided to save it for some night when I can't get to sleep. Sheesh.

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OwlsEyes wrote:
Be prepared to watch this video at 2x speed... that is some sloooow talking.
We'll know much more about how all of these lenses stack up and perform as more people use them in real shooting situations.
As a Nikon shooter, I continue to be impressed with Sony 200-600mm lens. When used with the A1, it continues to be a class leading optic. Of course, one has to enjoy the Sony bodies to make the most of the lens.
The Nikon 180-600 continues to do what Nikon has been doing. They have produced another remarkable product at a price that
...Show more


Bruce do you happen to have a photo of everything packed? Seems like it would be a nice stuffed bag



Sep 10, 2023 at 07:55 AM
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
I can remember going back and forth a bit in another thread with you. I don't recall which one and it could be a year or two ago, time passes so quickly. I was on one of my tired rants extolling the virtues of the zoom I was using. I pointed to some samples that I claimed I couldn't have gotten if I hadn't been carrying a zoom lens. Your argument at the time was you would pass on images rather than compromise on image quality. It appears you're sticking to your guns. The thing is, the more I use
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RE the video ... I couldn't watch it. To be honest target lens test are absolutely meaningless to me. Just about any new lens can produce a clean target shot from a tripod and any difference in image detail can be compensated with software. I am way more interested in seeing how a lens tracks a subject or how well the lens camera combination can focus in challenging light. My preference is to photograph wildlife in less than ideal light. I like the effect of backlight, the isolation of fog, the drama of precipitation, and the minimalism of the cold. I can only judge the merit of a lens based on how it performs under these conditions.
Ten years ago I would have jumped at the 180-600 and not looked back. I could not afford to spend more than $2500 every other year on a piece of gear, so that lens would have been an obvious choice. I returned to Nikon in 2014 because I could buy a 200-400 f/4 VR1 at what was once considered a crazy bargain ($3000). I sold off my Canon 300 f2.8IS and bodies and went to Nikon for the zoom. I accepted the slight reduction of image quality to have the flexibility. While there are times when I wish I could zoom my primes, I've become more comfortable learning how to silently shift my position and rely on one-button DX crop.
If I did not have the 800PF, I'd get the zoom to get to 600mm, but having the 800PF has been a difference maker for me. In addition, I find that I have a far more disciplined approach when I shoot primes... I decide what I am looking for, and invest the time to make it happen.
Regarding your choices and what to do with your money... well, I am not one to make these type of suggestions. Everybody always thinks they have the "best stuff for themselves" because nobody wants to admit to making a bad purchase. In my case, I'd sell my 400 f4.5 and 800PF if somebody would trade their 400mm f2.8S for my lenses. Of course nobody would take that deal, but the 400 f2.8S w/ converter would be my ideal one wildlife lens... Once you add in DX crop, you have the flexibility of a 400 to 840mm FOV in one lens. Furthermore, one can add a 1.4x to the lens and good good quality. Given that the latter is not an option for me, I feel fortunate to have the gear I am using. The 800PF has opened up opportunities for me that I would have passed on in past.

Seeing that you and I often seem to shoot similar subjects, I suggest you try to rent the 800PF for a week and see if it might be worth waiting.
cheers,
bruce




Sep 10, 2023 at 07:58 AM
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I consider the supplied soft pouches provided by Nikon high end (expensive) lenses to be an insult. Even Canon provides competent ballistic nylon cases for their high end lenses. Hard to believe Nikon is so damn cheap. Even Sigma provides decent custom padded ballistic nylon containers for even their decent lenses. I end up purchasing padded wraps for in bag storage, but if it's going to be external always a good Lowepro or Tenba hard sided case for a larger lens. Love the Lowepro's that fit the typical 24-70 or 70-200 and such as well as they are nicely padded for protection. Lack of padding to me is an invite to damage.


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Just to give you another option I use the Pelican Air 1535. In it is a Z 180-600, Z 100-400S, Z 24-120 S, TC 1.4X, TC2.0X, Z9, Z8. This is all in the back of my SUV and depending where I'm going I can bring a Z800 (or 400 TC) as well of course in its own bag.












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dcisive wrote:
I consider the supplied soft pouches provided by Nikon high end (expensive) lenses to be an insult. Even Canon provides competent ballistic nylon cases for their high end lenses. Hard to believe Nikon is so damn cheap. Even Sigma provides decent custom padded ballistic nylon containers for even their decent lenses. I end up purchasing padded wraps for in bag storage, but if it's going to be external always a good Lowepro or Tenba hard sided case for a larger lens. Love the Lowepro's that fit the typical 24-70 or 70-200 and such as well as they are nicely padded
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Hmmm... am I missing something. What soft pouches for Nikon high end lenses?
800PF and 400/2.8S TC comes with nice soft cases that will fit the lens and Z9 body and make it easy
to carry it on a plane. Much more practical than the hard case they used to provide and it is anything but
a soft pouch. I used that to carry my 400/2.8S from Thailand to South Africa,Botswana and Borneo so far
and totally love it.

Or are you talking about 50/1.2S or 85/1.2S, 24-70/2.8 etc? I have no use for individual pouch or bag for those lenses
personally and all the Sigma pouch are just taking up space in my storage area.



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Sep 10, 2023 at 08:01 PM
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George DeCamp wrote:
Just to give you another option I use the Pelican Air 1535. In it is a Z 180-600, Z 100-400S, Z 24-120 S, TC 1.4X, TC2.0X, Z9, Z8. This is all in the back of my SUV and depending where I'm going I can bring a Z800 (or 400 TC) as well of course in its own bag.

Would that fit in the overhead bin of a commercial airplane? Thanks in advance.



Sep 10, 2023 at 08:02 PM
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paloika wrote:
Would that fit in the overhead bin of a commercial airplane? Thanks in advance.


Depending on the airlines. A friend uses this type of hard case and sometimes, flight attendant would not let him put
that in overhead compartment saying that if the case fall down when someone open the overhead compartment, it
could cause serious injury. They may ask him to check it in at the gate or sometimes or flight attendant will store
it in their cabin closet for him. Some airlines don't care at all. Size wise, it should fit overhead compartment in most jets fine.
The only plane that it would not fit would be some of the smaller propeller ATR planes in my experience.



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paloika wrote:
Would that fit in the overhead bin of a commercial airplane? Thanks in advance.


Yes it will, that's why they call it "Air" because it's listed as a carryon case. I didn't know that at first but it's all in their literature but see suteetat info above. I like it in my car because it's sturdy and I can fit all that stuff inside in the case if I decide to use some of it. It has rollers also by the way.

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suteetat wrote:
Depending on the airlines. A friend uses this type of hard case and sometimes, flight attendant would not let him put
that in overhead compartment saying that if the case fall down when someone open the overhead compartment, it
could cause serious injury. They may ask him to check it in at the gate or sometimes or flight attendant will store
it in their cabin closet for him. Some airlines don't care at all. Size wise, it should fit overhead compartment in most jets fine.
The only plane that it would not fit would be some of the smaller propeller ATR planes in my
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I did a quick estimation that the total weight of the bag and contents is likely to be around 12 kg (don't know exactly what the inserts weight, so my estimate could be a little off). TSA limit is about 16 kg. Finnair allows 8 kg for economy passengers and 12 kg for business class. British Airways allows two bags up to 23 kg each! So, it varies greatly. I remember times when I was traveling and the maximum for carry-on was 5 kg, so I would get in trouble with that.

For safety reasons I too would expect a hard heavy case only to be allowed under the seat in front of the passenger, not in the overhead compartment (unless it slips unnoticed). But for exit seats, there is no seat in front option so it would probably end up in the cargo. Given how cargo luggage is handled (sometimes it gets thrown around between handlers over some distances) I would personally not take my chances and simply travel with less gear. But for photographers with wildlife being a priority, I guess there is no option but to pack what you need and accept the risks.



Sep 11, 2023 at 03:39 AM
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If a hard case runs the risk of getting rejected as carry on then it would seem one is better off with a regular carry on roller bag with a padded insert. Plus, anything that says “Pelican” on it screams “steal me” or “open me to see what is inside”. Locks are of course utterly pointless for checked bags. Once expensive items enter the check luggage lottery they better be insured.

As far as any sort of travel goes, bags that look like they carry camera gear in them are just asking to be stolen. I always use regular luggage or backpacks with appropriate internal padding.

As to the fancy manufacturer lens cases I can’t imagine ever using one. I’m sure they are useful to some folks, but really think they are just an added expense consigned to the closet for most people.



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