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Archive 2023 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf

  
 
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p.49 #1 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


pdesopo wrote:
I've had a strange issue the other day.
After taking a picture, I pressed the Playback button to review it through the EVF and it took an unusually long time for the picture to appear.

I then took another picture and this time, I saw the hourglass icon appearing on the EVF while I waited for the picture to show up, but it didn't happen. The hourglass icon remained on the screen indefinitely.
Eventually, I switched off the camera as there was no way to clear up the EVF.

The issue hasn't happened again ever since, but now I wonder if there's something
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With multiple cameras from multiple brands I have experienced strange slowdowns like this that were cleared up as soon as I formatted the memory card. This was more common when using a card that had been in another camera. For example, even though you'd think everything would be the same, putting a card from the X-H2 into the X-T5 without formatting often resulted in the type of weird hangups you are experiencing.

That's my guess, but if you have been formatting your cards, I don't have any other guesses, aside from maybe a bad battery. Power delivery issues can cause weird problems.




Jan 01, 2024 at 09:31 PM
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p.49 #2 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Happy New Year folks!

Here are some photos with the ZF and the 40mm if anyone is interested!



Jan 01, 2024 at 09:48 PM
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p.49 #3 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


dylanp wrote:
Happy New Year folks!

Here are some photos with the ZF and the 40mm if anyone is interested!


Very nice images, love your style.

—Peter.



Jan 01, 2024 at 10:14 PM
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p.49 #4 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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To those who have or have shot with both, do you find the 3D tracking for focus and recompose on still subjects to be similar in performance between the ZF and Z8?

I've started shooting the OM-1 again and the 3D tracking is what I miss the most.


I have a Z9 and Zf. The Z9 is a bit better. It seems to be able to grab slightly lower-contrast and it can handle more dramatic changes without losing its subject.

It's not a huge difference--the Zf is still really good. I only notice the Z9 being better in edge cases like a large aperture closeup candid with a quickly-moving subject, macro at near MFD, or holding something with very little detail. And even in those situations, the difference isn't huge; I can still get the shot, I just have to reacquire a bit more than I'm used to.

If you're only shooting still subjects, I'd consider the Zf essentially identical for AF, unless. your stationary subject is a flower at 1:2 reproduction, handheld.



Jan 01, 2024 at 11:15 PM
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p.49 #5 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


I’ve been pretty happy and for the brief time I owned the z8 and Zf together I didn’t really notice too much of a difference. This was the Zf with 3d tracking (with the lens I bought from you!) and it was a series of about 10 photos and all were acceptable to me. I think if you look at this one the focus might be on her pants, I don’t remember if eye af was kicking in or not. I was doing these on the fly and trying to track with a drone at the same time.




Jan 01, 2024 at 11:38 PM
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p.49 #6 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Joseph Marney wrote:
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With multiple cameras from multiple brands I have experienced strange slowdowns like this that were cleared up as soon as I formatted the memory card. This was more common when using a card that had been in another camera. For example, even though you'd think everything would be the same, putting a card from the X-H2 into the X-T5 without formatting often resulted in the type of weird hangups you are experiencing.

That's my guess, but if you have been formatting your cards, I don't have any other guesses, aside from maybe a bad battery. Power delivery issues can cause
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Thank you, Joseph

Good insights, that's helpful.

I'll try with different cards to see if the issue persists. The card I was using is the same one I've been using on my Nikon Zf since day one, and I've been regularly formatting it.

Also, thanks for pointing out a potential battery problem, I'll check that too.




Jan 02, 2024 at 01:16 PM
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p.49 #7 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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I have a Z9 and Zf. The Z9 is a bit better. It seems to be able to grab slightly lower-contrast and it can handle more dramatic changes without losing its subject.

It's not a huge difference--the Zf is still really good. I only notice the Z9 being better in edge cases like a large aperture closeup candid with a quickly-moving subject, macro at near MFD, or holding something with very little detail. And even in those situations, the difference isn't huge; I can still get the shot, I just have to reacquire a bit more than I'm used to.

If you're
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You've got me wondering, because I do shoot a fair amount at MFD, up-to but not greater than 1:2 reproduction. I'll find out though, just picked up a Zf from another FM'er - should arrive sometime next week.




Jan 07, 2024 at 12:36 AM
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Got rev 2 today which added thumb support. Weighs only 60g.

The fit is very nice, supported the big lenses quite well, tried the 70-200/2.8 and the 24-70/2.8.

Going to make some very minor adjustments for rev 3 for beta testers. PM me if interested.




Jan 08, 2024 at 10:32 PM
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p.49 #9 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Until I can get out and play around with the newly acquired refurbed Z 28mm SE, here are a few pics with the 40mm.

Have to admit, I was trying to work up some voodoo technique on doing zone focusing with the 28mm, but without lens markings and other helpful guides, I kind of through out my research, especially with the very responsive AF in 3D and Auto...so maybe zone focus concepts can be achieved with a hybrid approach of the Zf being able to to focus on a subject and let DOF do it's thing.

Anyways - will dork around with that later.







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  NIKON Z f    NIKKOR Z 40mm f/2 lens    40mm    f/4.0    1/125s    2800 ISO    0.0 EV  







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  NIKON Z f    NIKKOR Z 40mm f/2 lens    40mm    f/4.0    1/125s    7200 ISO    0.0 EV  







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  NIKON Z f    NIKKOR Z 40mm f/2 lens    40mm    f/2.0    1/125s    220 ISO    0.0 EV  







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  NIKON Z f    NIKKOR Z 40mm f/2 lens    40mm    f/2.0    1/125s    1100 ISO    0.0 EV  







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  NIKON Z f    NIKKOR Z 40mm f/2 lens    40mm    f/2.0    1/125s    1800 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jan 13, 2024 at 05:25 PM
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p.49 #10 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


jcnemy wrote:
Until I can get out and play around with the newly acquired refurbed Z 28mm SE, here are a few pics with the 40mm.

Have to admit, I was trying to work up some voodoo technique on doing zone focusing with the 28mm, but without lens markings and other helpful guides, I kind of through out my research, especially with the very responsive AF in 3D and Auto...so maybe zone focus concepts can be achieved with a hybrid approach of the Zf being able to to focus on a subject and let DOF do it's thing.

Anyways - will dork around with
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Nice work!

—Peter.



Jan 13, 2024 at 05:57 PM
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p.49 #11 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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Interesting to hear chatter about Adobe color profiles being preferred. They are quite bad on Z8/Z9 files.


I don't feel like the overall color and noise handling of the Zf files in C1 are great, either.



Jan 13, 2024 at 06:37 PM
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p.49 #12 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


https://www.instagram.com/cammacky/reel/C2BCEd3yJ_k/







Jan 13, 2024 at 07:30 PM
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p.49 #13 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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I don't feel like the overall color and noise handling of the Zf files in C1 are great, either.


Did you try NX Studio?



Jan 13, 2024 at 08:30 PM
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p.49 #14 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


pdesopo wrote:
Did you try NX Studio?


No. I didn't even try the Zf files in Lightroom. The camera's RAW files have to work for me in C1. But I should go back and try just to see. That might give me hope that the C1 profile would improve. The C1 profile for the Q2 was terrible on release, practically unusable, but it's been improved a lot since.



Jan 13, 2024 at 09:51 PM
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p.49 #15 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


dylanp wrote:
Happy New Year folks!

Here are some photos with the ZF and the 40mm if anyone is interested!


So good!



Jan 13, 2024 at 11:23 PM
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p.49 #16 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Hi guys, another fresh zf user here and yes after z6II the loss of grip is definitely noticable but I don't want to talk about that any more than it is already said, waiting for the wooden grip to arive from China.

I was wandering about controls mapping, specifficaly to the resetting of focus point to the center - previously on z6II I got used to pressing the joystick to do that and I was using OK button for quick zooming - does anyone use the centering of focus point on a button? I also use AE-L for back button focusing so that one is out of question. I was thinking to set it to + or - but form what I saw those 2 are not programmable (will check again).



Jan 14, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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p.49 #17 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


baneand wrote:
Hi guys, another fresh zf user here and yes after z6II the loss of grip is definitely noticable but I don't want to talk about that any more than it is already said, waiting for the wooden grip to arive from China.

I was wandering about controls mapping, specifficaly to the resetting of focus point to the center - previously on z6II I got used to pressing the joystick to do that and I was using OK button for quick zooming - does anyone use the centering of focus point on a button? I also use AE-L for back button
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The Zf is a "character camera" in that role it is my favorite non Leica mirrorless camera. However, it is not a performance orientated camera. It is very limited in controls, and also in control configurability. I think that will come with the Z6/7 III generation of cameras, which should have much better ergonomics and configurability. Just enjoy the Zf until those are released and you should get close to everything you wish for.



Jan 14, 2024 at 01:52 PM
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p.49 #18 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


1bwana1 wrote:
The Zf is a "character camera" in that role it is my favorite non Leica mirrorless camera. However, it is not a performance orientated camera. It is very limited in controls, and also in control configurability. I think that will come with the Z6/7 III generation of cameras, which should have much better ergonomics and configurability. Just enjoy the Zf until those are released and you should get close to everything you wish for.


I am definitely very much enjoying it, nothing big to complain about it. This was more just to check if anyone missed the centering of the focus point and how did they overcome it. Again not a big deal can't wait to shoot more with it



Jan 14, 2024 at 04:08 PM
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p.49 #19 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


I center the focus point with OK, treating the D pad like a focus joystick and use the AE-L button for magnification. Note that the OK button still zooms in with setup like this when reviewing images.


Jan 14, 2024 at 07:00 PM
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p.49 #20 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


FYI, I've been testing the Live View lag/latency on various bodies for the magnified focus view. This has been a weak spot on Z bodies because the latency is around 200ms (vs 50ms on other MILC systems), which makes MF a bit more difficult than it would otherwise be. Just tested the Zf and its latency is half of all other Z bodies I tested, including the Z6, Z7, and Z9.

Composite Image: Z6 vs Zf Live View latency, 5 samples per camera



Jan 15, 2024 at 02:25 PM
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