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 p.9 #16 · D850 still takes a better picture than z8/9, change my mind. | |
Kasper6188 wrote:
So, after using the z9 since release and retiring my D850 to the storage bin I decided to take it out a few weeks back and start shooting with the ole girl again. Obviously the z8/9 has many advantages over the d850 with all the mirrorless tech and all, but ultimate image quality doesn't seem to be one of them, to me at least. Specifically the color and fine detail retained in the shadows.
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Disclaimer: Yes, I know this topic has been resurrected and that there's a dead horse supposedly out in the field somewhere, however, my recent investigations into the Z8 (as a likely ship-jump from S1 and GH6) found me reading 9-pages of bickering and discourse over this morning's coffee.  My post ignores all that and confines itself to the very subjective world of SOOC image aesthetics between different camera bodies...
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Hi Kasper6188,
Your original images of your husky caught my attention to the point of my taking the time to download them and giving them my own biased assessments and, yes, based on those images (and others you've provided throughout this thread) I agree that there are differences that one can take away from your tests that help inform potential platform adopters, like myself.
Image creation is a very personal pursuit and in my own journeys from being a Kodachrome 25 shooter through various digital bodies leading to today, part of my satisfactions and pleasures of "what my cameras are giving me" have, necessarily, been a forced-change over those years of technology-change and, no, it has not been "all pleasant".
Case in point, when transitioning off of Canon (300D, 30D, 5D Mark II, 7D) to Sony (a7R, a6300, a7S Mark II) I took the time on numerous occasions to do mix-and-match side-by-side outings (FF v FF, or FF v croppers, or croppers v croppers, etc.) between brands similar to what you've done here with the D850 v Z8. And, "at the end of the day" I just could not "get on" with the SOOC images coming out of the Sony bodies (FWIW, there was, to me, a sterility and colder (color) presence baked into those files that never satisfied me) and it became the primary reason for my jumping ship, once again, this time to Panasonic.
I bring this up as, in my observations, colors are visceral perceptions. And, where a camera sensor or film emulsion provide a straight-out-of-camera experience, that, to me, is the crux of "what I hope my cameras are giving me" and what, er, "strikes me" at the very core of my satisfactions. My constant inner dialog is..."is that sky's blue right?", "oh man, that screwed up those violet flowers!", "grass should not look that electric!", "that dress was not that shade of red", "oh my, now that looks sweet!", "ooh, grabbed that glistening just right!"...ad infinitum. (FWIW, of all those Canon and Sony cameras tested, I most preferred what the 30D was giving me in colors! Haw!)
Yes, your husky pics do differ in appearance, the D850 seems warmer, and cleaner in the shadows as you note, but I'm tossed on a personal preference...because I wasn't there and don't know just how the scene actually looked and, well, you and me are different folks with, most-assuredly, different senses of aesthetics.
And, therein lays some further personal preference when it comes to choosing a camera...how much interest and effort one gives to post processing vs SOOC. I'm in the camp of minimalism (perhaps a pinch of sharpening and a tweak of exposure correction, I never futz with color in PP) and try to always shoot as though I am still shooting slides, "get it right" in camera and move on. So, what's coming straight out of the camera is always of primary interest to me.
You like what the D850 is giving you over the Z8 SOOC, "I get it".
Anyhoo, them's my morning musings, thanks so much for starting this thread...great topic and very helpful for we ship-jumpers...well, this one, anyways!
Best, 
Jimmy G
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Sorry if you misunderstood my post -- all good here!
