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p.50 #1 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


I get your points.

And yuh, an afterthought was that there might be a situation where it was impossible to be anywhere near the nature.

But no again, I am not leaving my expensive equipment set up and just walk away and leave it.




Jun 16, 2023 at 04:53 AM
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p.50 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


I get all that

These are all examples of other people being around the equipment, so the chances of anyone walking away with it are slim

And 1bwana1 made the good point that this can be standard practice in industry.

But as a nature photographer, setting up expensive gear and walking away and leaving it in the woods is not something I can see myself doing.



NikonClio64 wrote:
Auto Capture is probably a spill over from the software for the company's robotic systems, investing in deep learning - notably its subsidiary MRMC, which Nikon acquired 7 years ago during its restructuring, but had been working closely with since the 2012 Olympic Games at least

https://www.provideocoalition.com/nikon-acquires-mrmc/

https://roboticsandautomationnews.com/2019/06/28/nikon-invests-7-5-million-in-computer-vision-and-deep-learning-startup-wrnch/24015/

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/mrmc.page

It's been used in sports using a battery of Nikon D5's
https://petapixel.com/2020/09/26/nikon-robot-cameras-now-cover-the-boston-red-soxs-fenway-park/

latterly leveraging high fps and advanced features in the Z9
https://www.dpreview.com/news/3109510804/robotic-camera-technology-game-controller-and-nikon-z9-photograph-the-fifa-world-cup

and industry
https://petapixel.com/2022/01/06/nikons-robot-vision-tech-can-see-down-to-1mm-at-500fps/






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Jun 16, 2023 at 05:08 AM
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p.50 #3 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


It is 6:21 a.m. and I am running late to an ongoing documentation of a loon sitting on a nest, incubating eggs.

I am getting away from this computer and going to enjoy nature.

That was *my* point in the first place. I prefer being out in nature taking pictures to sitting at a computer.... and that includes debating with people on forums, like many of you here (not all) enjoy doing

Now, critter cams are examples of organizations using remote cams to keep tabs on animals... including loons.

Here is New Hampshires exciting loon cam. By the way, the female deposited the first egg on June 11. 26-29 days incubation period.

https://loon.org/looncam/



Jun 16, 2023 at 05:27 AM
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p.50 #4 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


You just need 2x z9s

One to auto capture wildlife and sasquatch
Other pointed at the first z9, to capture thieves



Jun 16, 2023 at 06:03 AM
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p.50 #5 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


I left the water about an hour ago after checking to see if the loons were still incubating. Will now post a couple of images on the D850 thread.


Jun 16, 2023 at 09:55 AM
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p.50 #6 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


bs kite wrote:
I left the water about an hour ago after checking to see if the loons were still incubating. Will now post a couple of images on the D850 thread.


Robert,

Are you not using your Z8 yet?



Jun 16, 2023 at 11:07 AM
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Robert,

Are you not using your Z8 yet?


I have been making some progress learning it but not nearly enough to go into the field with it as a go-to.

I would like a very simplified menu set up.... keyword "Simple". I've been reading all this niggling about auto menus (Sony vs Nikon) .... and I would like Nikon's it to be as simple as Sony's. This guy over here says his is the perfect menu setup. And this guy over here says the same thing and on and on.

Also, with MILC, if the AF squares are red/green and you cannot see the red vs green.......then you cannot shoot the camera.

So, I believe Nikon and I are finally making progress toward a firmware change for Daltonism. I will not know until I see it. And I will not discuss anything regarding the firmware on this thread.

I want to avoid annoying Nikon

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Jun 16, 2023 at 11:38 AM
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bs kite wrote:
So, I believe Nikon and I are finally making progress toward a firmware change for Daltonism. I will not know until I see it. I will not discuss anything regarding the firmware on this thread.



I am holding good thoughts for you on this one!!!!



Jun 16, 2023 at 11:44 AM
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p.50 #9 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


1bwana1 wrote:
I am holding good thoughts for you on this one!!!!


Now that is a great response my friend




Jun 16, 2023 at 11:48 AM
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p.50 #10 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


You should never need to access the menus for day to day shooting once the camera is set up to your liking. I've never understood menu complaints of any brand.


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RoamingScott wrote:
You should never need to access the menus for day to day shooting once the camera is set up to your liking. I've never understood menu complaints of any brand.


My response to your first sentence is .... Bingo! Key phrase: "Once the camera is set up to your liking." I agree. And I will get there. I seek that simplicity

If you have never understood menu complaints of any brand then you probably have a greater aptitude for it than I do. No problem.

If it is so easy for everyone then why was this thread dedicated for several days to continual haggling over Sony vs Nikon menus?







Jun 16, 2023 at 12:51 PM
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p.50 #12 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


bs kite wrote:
If it is so easy for everyone then why was this thread dedicated for several days to continual haggling over Sony vs Nikon menus?


In the age of great excess, the smallest minutiae become the biggest problems in anyone's life.



Jun 16, 2023 at 01:11 PM
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p.50 #13 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


My D850 is set to AF-ON and the fn1 button is set to Auto Area AF

For BIF I simultaneously press/hold both the AF-ON button and the fn1 button. Even when the rig is put over the gunwale and down just above water-level I am able to press the shutter button.

With this Z8 is it much more difficult to do this when the camera is lowered to the same position.

This leads me to want to assign the Auto Area AF to something simpler.

Any suggestions anyone?



Jun 16, 2023 at 02:21 PM
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p.50 #14 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


Yes, the shutter button! Then use AF On for your secondary AF mode.


Jun 16, 2023 at 02:28 PM
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p.50 #15 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


This whole "auto-capture" thing seems an oddity to me, but it has started me thinking.
What is one leaves behind camera/lens on a tripod at a spot in nature, preferably covered in camo cloth, and backs off about 50 meters until completely out of sight, and connects to the camera with mobile phone to see the viewfinder image on the phone screen, and then have all the camera controls behind icons on the screen.
You could even make yourself comfortable in a tent with coffee and a book and just watch the phone display and wait until wildlife appears. You could use a tablet to have a better view and more real estate for the controls/buttons.

Would this not enable you to photograph animals/birds in situations that are impossible if you are physically there?

An additional advantage would be that you see the burglar approaching that wants to take your 20K combo and take off. It should give you time to shout him off.

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Jun 16, 2023 at 02:35 PM
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p.50 #16 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


ChrisMak wrote:
This whole "auto-capture" thing seems an oddity to me, but it has started me thinking.
What is one leaves behind camera/lens on a tripod at a spot in nature, preferably covered in camo cloth, and backs off about 50 meters until completely out of sight, and connects to the camera with mobile phone to see the viewfinder image on the phone screen, and then have all the camera controls behind icons on the screen.
You could even make yourself comfortable in a tent with coffee and a book and just watch the phone display and wait until wildlife appears. You could use
...Show more

Most cameras don't have Wifi/BT range that far away, but sure.



Jun 16, 2023 at 02:37 PM
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p.50 #17 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


RoamingScott wrote:
Most cameras don't have Wifi/BT range that far away, but sure.


I see opportunities for Nikon here, since they are on this road anyway...



Jun 16, 2023 at 02:39 PM
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p.50 #18 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


Auto Are AF already *is* my secondary AF mode

Maybe I should have clarified that AF-ON is my primary focus button. If I press/hold the AF-ON bottom alone it focuses the single point. To get BIF I press both AF-ON and fn-1



Jun 16, 2023 at 02:43 PM
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p.50 #19 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


I understand...I just don't see a reason to need 3 buttons for something as simple as Auto Area.

Backbutton autofocus was more of a holdover of the "focus and recompose" era. Maybe I'm a minority, but I really like my primary focus being on shutter and secondary on AFON instead of the old school way.



Jun 16, 2023 at 02:46 PM
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p.50 #20 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


I'll at least give your suggestion a try.


Jun 16, 2023 at 03:01 PM
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