hmzimelka wrote:
I think the fact that it's not a Leica does ad considerable dissonance.
I'm grateful my copy is perfect to my eyes. I don't seem to have any luck with Leica lenses, for which I'm actually quite grateful for. My most recent fails were a new Summilux 35mm and APO-Summicron 75mm.
Reminds me of what Louis CK once said; Everything is amazing but nobody is happy. I have to remind myself of this more often than not.
Good quote.
As far as optics, I only do a basic check for gross de-centering/tilt/skew. Haven't had much of an issue with M mount lenses in that regard. I do get more critical when it comes to rendering, color, sharpness, etc. But I don't over-analyze and fret about things like onion rings, reduction in bokeh at the edges of the frame, rough transition zones, catseye bokeh, minor mid-frame dips in resolutions, etc. Mid-frame performance is probably a bigger deal at M11/M10-R/M10M resolutions that it is on my SL2-S, though.
I guess now that I think about it, the only thing that drives me nuts about an M lens is if it focuses past infinity on an M body. That's an immediate "no" from me
For the most part, as long as I can make pleasing images with a lens and enjoy using it, I'll keep it.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I did see it on another image I rotated but not this one, which was not rotated. I guess these high frequency detail shots get weird on different monitors maybe. The texture on my fence causes the same problem even on photos taken with my iPhone if I rotate a shot of it and the image is sharpened at all. I just went back and replaced it – sharpening reduced to zero in C1 and no sharpening on export. See if that fixes it on your screen.
Getting a little more familiar with this lens. I'm really liking it because to my eye, it is rendering like a Zeiss Milvus when stopped down and like the current Leica 28 Summicron when shot from f/2 to f/2.8. I can't ask for much more than that, optically-speaking. Also really liking how this lens renders at distances just shorter than its native MFD when using a macro adapter.
For infinity landscape on the SL2-S, I'm getting optimal sharpness across the frame at f/11, with f/5.6-f/8 still being very good. At f/5.6-f/8, it is incredibly picky about perfect infinity focus, which has a huge impact on edge performance on the SL2-S. I'm not seeing enough loss of detail or contrast from diffraction to be afraid to use f/16, either. I'm sure on the M10/M10-R/M11 it does even better with regard to the edges being sharp at wider apertures. Overall for infinity landscape, the 28 Summilux is probably the gold standard on the SL2-S, but it's also bigger, heavier, and 8x more expensive. And the 28 Summilux also does not render as nicely as this lens does at at macro distances, in my opinion.
As a caveat, I've been using a Breakthrough X2 UV filter on this lens. I need to test at infinity without it to be sure the edges don't improve a stop sooner, which I've seen happen with some lenses when using the B+W filters that share similar Schott glass and Nanotech coatings. Unfortunately, Zeiss does not make their UV T* filter in 39mm.
highdesertmesa wrote:
Getting a little more familiar with this lens. I'm really liking it because to my eye, it is rendering like a Zeiss Milvus when stopped down and like the current Leica 28 Summicron when shot from f/2 to f/2.8. I can't ask for much more than that, optically-speaking. Also really liking how this lens renders at distances just shorter than its native MFD when using a macro adapter.
For infinity landscape on the SL2-S, I'm getting optimal sharpness across the frame at f/11, with f/5.6-f/8 still being very good. At f/5.6-f/8, it is incredibly picky about perfect infinity focus, which has a huge impact on edge performance on the SL2-S. I'm not seeing enough loss of detail or contrast from diffraction to be afraid to use f/16, either. I'm sure on the M10/M10-R/M11 it does even better with regard to the edges being sharp at wider apertures. Overall for infinity landscape, the 28 Summilux is probably the gold standard on the SL2-S, but it's also bigger, heavier, and 8x more expensive. And the 28 Summilux also does not render as nicely as this lens does at at macro distances, in my opinion.
As a caveat, I've been using a Breakthrough X2 UV filter on this lens. I need to test at infinity without it to be sure the edges don't improve a stop sooner, which I've seen happen with some lenses when using the B+W filters that share similar Schott glass and Nanotech coatings. Unfortunately, Zeiss does not make their UV T* filter in 39mm....Show more →
I would be surprised if a high quality UV (B+W, Heliopan, etc.) alters how the lens performs at infinity distance but I never really tested this thoroughly. I do like the T* UV filters though.
As you already saw on your M10-R/M11, the CV 28/2 II is exceptional on the M body. It actually performs better than the latest 28/2 cron everywhere on the frame at infinity, although the Leica comes close. By f/2.8-4, I'd say it's already optimal on the M while the SL needs at least f/8 for good performance. Unfortunately, on the Sony, the corners never get very good even stopped down.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I would be surprised if a high quality UV (B+W, Heliopan, etc.) alters how the lens performs at infinity distance but I never really tested this thoroughly. I do like the T* UV filters though.
As you already saw on your M10-R/M11, the CV 28/2 II is exceptional on the M body. It actually performs better than the latest 28/2 cron everywhere on the frame at infinity, although the Leica comes close. By f/2.8-4, I'd say it's already optimal on the M while the SL needs at least f/8 for good performance. Unfortunately, on the Sony, the corners never get very good even stopped down.
Thanks! I was hoping for performance on the SL2-S that matched the 28 Lux, which is optimal by f/5.6, but this will do at f/8 since the IBIS more than makes up for the difference in light loss from stopping down. Hood arrives today, so I’m hoping that will make it feel a little more balanced ergonomically.
The lenses I had that were sensitive to filters were the Canon telephotos. For some reason all the copies of fhe B+W filters would cause a minor reduction in far corner sharpness at infinity. The other lens I had an issue with was the 50 Lux BC. I think it’s the narrow snout of the BC didn’t like either the B+W or the Leica brand filters. I think the Zeiss has a slightly more narrow outer rim holding the glass that may have helped.
Speaking of filters and since you also own the 35 Lux Pre-ASPH: a popular filter workaround for that lens is to use any brand 49mm filters in the original 2-piece 12504 hood in place of the harder to find Series VII filters. I found fhe 49mm filters are causing a very obvious far corner vignette and smearing at infinity. The hood needs the real Series VII filters, which I believe are 52mm glass held by a very thin outer band.
Hood arrived, and it actually makes the lens a bit more ridiculous-looking I think it’s now longer than the 28 Lux without a hood.
The Breakthrough 39mm doesn’t work with the hood since the ribbed edge of the filter makes it too wide. I had a 39mm Leica UV in my stash of filters, and it allowed the hood to fit.
1bwana1 wrote:
Well adapter, lens, filter, hood all bolted together makes anything look like a contraption.
The lens alone is a compact, elegant design.
Absolutely. This looks 1000x better on my film Ms. Still, it’s growing on me. Adding the hood has certainly improved the handling and balance on the SL2-S.
Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 11:44 AM.
Looking across the inside and lower levels of the Colosseum.
Hand Held relying on Camera IBIS, A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, F8?, 1/400 Second.
Exposure Corrected -0.26 Stops.
March 7, 2022
At the Colosseum, Roma (Rome) Italy.
naturephoto1 wrote:
Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 11:44 AM.
Looking across the inside and lower levels of the Colosseum.
Hand Held relying on Camera IBIS, A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, F8?, 1/400 Second.
Exposure Corrected -0.26 Stops.
March 7, 2022
At the Colosseum, Roma (Rome) Italy.
Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 6:19 PM.
Looking at farmers fields near the intersection of Loch Valley Road and Stony Ridge Road. Many of the fields have yet to be planted.
Tripod mounted A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II Asph VM lens with Moose (Peterson) Warm Polarizing Filter; silent shutter.
ISO 100, f8, 1/50 second.
June 6, 2022
Along Loch Valley Road, New Tripoli, PA.
Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 12:01 PM.
Looking at the exterior of a Church in Termini Imerse which is about 22 miles from Palermo.
Hand Held relying on Camera IBIS, A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, F8?, 1/1000 Second.
March 14, 2022
At Termini Imerse (Termini), Sicily, Italy.
Irving wrote:
Isn't your review for the version I of this lens not the version II?
You are mixing up Version I and II with Version II Type I and Type II because of Cosina's ridiculously stupid naming scheme.
It is also explained right at the beginning of the review in the comment you just quoted.
BastianK wrote:
You are mixing up Version I and II with Version II Type I and Type II because of Cosina's ridiculously stupid naming scheme.
It is also explained right at the beginning of the review in the comment you just quoted.
Version II Type I and II are the same, only the casing looks different.
Hi Bastian,
The Version II Type I and Type II I believe are the same optical design, but there is a difference in the weight, handling (I believe) (haptics), and appearance/presentation.
The Version II may not be to your liking or mine on a stock Sony body, but is an excellent performer on an Ultra Thin sensor modified Sony body and also on an M body. It is one of my favorite and most used lenses, but on my Kolari Vision UT sensor modified A7rII rather on my stock A1, A7rIII, or A7r. I should try it on my Kolari Vision Thin sensor V3 modified camera, but I suspect that i would have the same color issues into the corners and edges as I experienced with my Leica M 24mm f3.8 Asph and my Zeiss 35mm f1.4 Distagon ZM lenses.
I think it’s now longer than the 28 Lux without a hood.
