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lifeandmylens
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p.1 #1Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
I have the 35 GM for about a week until my real one comes in April.

Here’s a size comparison:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-S8JNtRZ/0/62453a9a/X5/i-S8JNtRZ-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-QT7M3mV/0/f6ecdfb4/X5/i-QT7M3mV-X5.jpg

Here are a few quick 5 min tests I did. . All are unedited.

A couple comparisons of a tree with some OOF areas:

Sigma @ f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-xLWK2qG/0/7352b0c8/X5/i-xLWK2qG-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NfFjk9b/0/56028e35/X5/i-NfFjk9b-X5.jpg

Sigma @ f/2.8
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RwfSzkW/0/b7cea709/X5/i-RwfSzkW-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/2.8
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NMRzPfP/0/1e6b9ea5/X5/i-NMRzPfP-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/1.4
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jfp4GCg/0/3f2d3a0a/X5/i-jfp4GCg-X5.jpg


Flare and Sunstars:

GM f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gMBcgdN/0/baad5917/X5/i-gMBcgdN-X5.jpg

Sigma f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-D78gnDD/0/1a801e98/X5/i-D78gnDD-X5.jpg


GM @ f/11
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LRd8VJx/0/5769e600/X5/i-LRd8VJx-X5.jpg

Sigma @ f/11
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZJ4Gx5s/0/6e502307/X5/i-ZJ4Gx5s-X5.jpg


Corners and bokeh comparisons
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8xdW3ZD/0/284d1f36/X5/i-8xdW3ZD-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fcgWDwC/0/c8694de5/X5/i-fcgWDwC-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-G3TxW3L/0/90a11f77/X5/i-G3TxW3L-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZM68W74/0/91d94126/X5/i-ZM68W74-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qZQQBPc/0/276b6559/X5/i-qZQQBPc-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sg2Tgwb/0/464e3eae/X5/i-sg2Tgwb-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tzXSWFx/0/b779cc49/X5/i-tzXSWFx-X5.png


Know that I’m not a lens tester (and have no desire to be - you do a great job here Fred!), but I am happy to make some test shot comparisons with the Sigma 35 f/2 DG DN as I know many of you are curious on comparing these two lenses. Let me know what you would like to see.

I’m having a baby this week so I don’t have a lot of time, but will try to get some done at least! I’ve been told there’s lots of waiting around
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:06 PM
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p.1 #2Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Thanks! And wow the GM looks really smooth...
Any thoughts on AF?
Just read the last sentence, I guess the GM will come in handy for "documentation" purposes then (and congrats of course!).
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:13 PM
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p.1 #3Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Wow, even at f2 the GM looks noticeably smoother - thank you for the comparison and +1 for the GM! Also, congratulations!
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:34 PM
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p.1 #4Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Is this using the demo/pre-production model of the 35mm GM?
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:37 PM
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p.1 #5Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
The GM does look better in my eye for all the tests.

And it should being more costly and a GM.
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:38 PM
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p.1 #6Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
The Sigma does an admirable job here but this brief comparison also makes me feel better about sticking with the GM pre-order. So far looks great. Creamy out of focus areas. Rounded bokeh balls. Contrast is looking great. If you are taking requests, it would be great to get a little more transition zone comparison, and after that, corner sharpness. Although that surely will be done by Fred and others eventually too.
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:41 PM
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p.1 #7Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
j4nu wrote:
Thanks! And wow the GM looks really smooth...
Any thoughts on AF?
Just read the last sentence, I guess the GM will come in handy for "documentation" purposes then (and congrats of course!).


Thanks! Yes I’ll be using the GM specifically for the birth

I’ll post more on AF once I’ve used it more. But so far, it’s rock solid and very fast.
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tbpeur01 wrote:
Wow, even at f2 the GM looks noticeably smoother - thank you for the comparison and +1 for the GM! Also, congratulations!


Thank you! Definitely smoother.
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bobby350z wrote:
Is this using the demo/pre-production model of the 35mm GM?


Yes.
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fotografur wrote:
The GM does look better in my eye for all the tests.

And it should being more costly and a GM.


Agree on both fronts.
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #8Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
GM is a lot bigger than the sigma, so as a compact option, the sigma is a much better choice and stills delivers optically. Degree of blur difference is not substantial at f2 vs f1.4.

That said the GM bokeh does look good in these samples and that's the area I was most curiuos about vs the sigma 35 f1.2 (the bigma). keeping my GM pre-order for now, though the sigma 35 f2 has personally earned it's keep.

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Feb 21, 2021 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #9Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
lifeandmylens wrote:
I have the 35 GM for about a week until my real one comes in April.

Here’s a size comparison:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-S8JNtRZ/0/62453a9a/X5/i-S8JNtRZ-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-QT7M3mV/0/f6ecdfb4/X5/i-QT7M3mV-X5.jpg

Here are a few quick 5 min tests I did. . All are unedited.

A couple comparisons of a tree with some OOF areas:

Sigma @ f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-xLWK2qG/0/7352b0c8/X5/i-xLWK2qG-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NfFjk9b/0/56028e35/X5/i-NfFjk9b-X5.jpg

Sigma @ f/2.8
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RwfSzkW/0/b7cea709/X5/i-RwfSzkW-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/2.8
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NMRzPfP/0/1e6b9ea5/X5/i-NMRzPfP-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/1.4
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jfp4GCg/0/3f2d3a0a/X5/i-jfp4GCg-X5.jpg

Flare and Sunstars:

GM f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gMBcgdN/0/baad5917/X5/i-gMBcgdN-X5.jpg

Sigma f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-D78gnDD/0/1a801e98/X5/i-D78gnDD-X5.jpg

GM @ f/11
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LRd8VJx/0/5769e600/X5/i-LRd8VJx-X5.jpg

Sigma @ f/11
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZJ4Gx5s/0/6e502307/X5/i-ZJ4Gx5s-X5.jpg

Corners and bokeh comparisons
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8xdW3ZD/0/284d1f36/X5/i-8xdW3ZD-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fcgWDwC/0/c8694de5/X5/i-fcgWDwC-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-G3TxW3L/0/90a11f77/X5/i-G3TxW3L-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZM68W74/0/91d94126/X5/i-ZM68W74-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qZQQBPc/0/276b6559/X5/i-qZQQBPc-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sg2Tgwb/0/464e3eae/X5/i-sg2Tgwb-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tzXSWFx/0/b779cc49/X5/i-tzXSWFx-X5.png

Know that I’m not a lens tester (and have no desire to be - you do a great job here Fred!), but I am happy to make some test shot comparisons with the Sigma 35 f/2 DG DN as
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Wow, thanks for this comparison. I much prefer the GM's rendering at f/2.
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #10Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
You did a great job here, thanks for the effort.

A big focal plane with billowy abstraction of objects floating in the ether, or a smooth draw with still well drawn remnants of 3D and objects for context - what do you like in your bokeh? To some extent, any modern f1.4 lens has to play to its audiences' wishes: massive separation with a strong focal plane and soft backgrounds to work with each other.
Feb 21, 2021 at 05:51 PM
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p.1 #11Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Dude, you are the real MVP. Having a baby this week and still posted this for us nerds to start a new fight.

Congrats on the baby! Hope all goes well.


lifeandmylens wrote:
I’m having a baby this week so I don’t have a lot of time, but will try to get some done at least! I’ve been told there’s lots of waiting around


Feb 21, 2021 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #12Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
I prefer the GM rendering too. I guess it makes sense as it costs more than twice, but Sigma is doing a great job here. It is not like GM completely owned Sigma; Sigma's rendering is nice too.

Sigma's design is so sexy. Looking at both of them side-by-side in the first two images, Sigma is like having a slimmer, more attractive looking sibling. GM is not a bad design, but it isn't Sigma cool.
Feb 21, 2021 at 06:20 PM
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p.1 #13Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
ramesesthe2nd wrote:
Dude, you are the real MVP. Having a baby this week and still posted this for us nerds to start a new fight.

Congrats on the baby! Hope all goes well.

lifeandmylens wroteI’m having a baby this week so I don’t have a lot of time, but will try to get some done at least! I’ve been told there’s lots of waiting around


Haha thank you! Hope the fight goes well
Feb 21, 2021 at 07:08 PM
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p.1 #14Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
GM looks really good here. Sigma's no slouch, especially at the price differential, but I'd probably go with the GM in the end.

I canceled my GM preorder because I don't exactly need the lens right now, but I'll come back to it somewhere down the line.
Feb 21, 2021 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #15Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Congratulations on your baby! We just had ours a few months ago and he makes us happier than anything in the whole world. You are truly in for a real blessing

With regards to the lenses, would it be possible to test them both at full body portrait distances to see how the rendering compares? Also if we could see transition zone comparisons that would be amazing!! You're the real MVP!
Feb 21, 2021 at 08:01 PM
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p.1 #16Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Oh I almost forgot! Could you compare how the field of view changes with both lenses at the same distances? Like once you get closer up, say for mid length portraits. I'm concerned about the Sony's terrible focus breathing.
Feb 21, 2021 at 08:02 PM
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p.1 #17Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Thanks for the comparison and congrats on the baby to come! I have two young kids (6 years and 10 months) and it’s true what they say...everything
Feb 21, 2021 at 08:13 PM
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p.1 #18Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Congratulations and thanks for the test. GM looks really good.
Feb 21, 2021 at 08:29 PM
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p.1 #19Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
lifeandmylens wrote:
I have the 35 GM for about a week until my real one comes in April.

Here’s a size comparison:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-S8JNtRZ/0/62453a9a/X5/i-S8JNtRZ-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-QT7M3mV/0/f6ecdfb4/X5/i-QT7M3mV-X5.jpg

Here are a few quick 5 min tests I did. . All are unedited.

A couple comparisons of a tree with some OOF areas:

Sigma @ f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-xLWK2qG/0/7352b0c8/X5/i-xLWK2qG-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NfFjk9b/0/56028e35/X5/i-NfFjk9b-X5.jpg

Sigma @ f/2.8
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RwfSzkW/0/b7cea709/X5/i-RwfSzkW-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/2.8
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NMRzPfP/0/1e6b9ea5/X5/i-NMRzPfP-X5.jpg

Sony @ f/1.4
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jfp4GCg/0/3f2d3a0a/X5/i-jfp4GCg-X5.jpg

Flare and Sunstars:

GM f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gMBcgdN/0/baad5917/X5/i-gMBcgdN-X5.jpg

Sigma f/2
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-D78gnDD/0/1a801e98/X5/i-D78gnDD-X5.jpg

GM @ f/11
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LRd8VJx/0/5769e600/X5/i-LRd8VJx-X5.jpg

Sigma @ f/11
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZJ4Gx5s/0/6e502307/X5/i-ZJ4Gx5s-X5.jpg

Corners and bokeh comparisons
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8xdW3ZD/0/284d1f36/X5/i-8xdW3ZD-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fcgWDwC/0/c8694de5/X5/i-fcgWDwC-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-G3TxW3L/0/90a11f77/X5/i-G3TxW3L-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZM68W74/0/91d94126/X5/i-ZM68W74-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qZQQBPc/0/276b6559/X5/i-qZQQBPc-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sg2Tgwb/0/464e3eae/X5/i-sg2Tgwb-X5.png

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tzXSWFx/0/b779cc49/X5/i-tzXSWFx-X5.png

Know that I’m not a lens tester (and have no desire to be - you do a great job here Fred!), but I am happy to make some test shot comparisons with the Sigma 35 f/2 DG DN as
...Show more →

For someone who’s not a “lens tester”, you’ve done a stellar job. Well done and thank you!
Feb 21, 2021 at 09:01 PM
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p.1 #20Sony 35 GM vs Sigma 35 f2 DG DN
Thanks for uploading these.

It looks like the sigma has a wider focal length, which might also contribute to the GM’s smoother bokeh along with sigma having gone for a more contrasty look.

Did you use a tripod though as maybe the apparently slightly different focal length could just be where one stands.
Feb 21, 2021 at 09:15 PM
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