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p.27 #1A1 Reviews/Video thread
Bryan Crowe wrote:
Do any of the reviews comment on the ability to switch between crop mode and normal when buffering ?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1686124/
Do any of the reviews comment on the ability to switch between crop mode and normal when buffering ?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1686124/
Feb 14, 2021 at 12:08 PM
p.27 #2A1 Reviews/Video thread
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.
Thats pretty amazing!
Thats pretty amazing!
Feb 14, 2021 at 12:24 PM
p.27 #3A1 Reviews/Video thread
Lassep wrote:
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.
Thats pretty amazing!
A9 (not the II) mess up WB some times and I had some unrecoverable portraits. A9 generally has a magenta cast and it's hard to get rid of it. I tried Fuji for some time. While Fuji mess up WB more often, the only thing I had to change in ACR was WB. It was easy to get consistent result with Fuji. I hope Sony has improved.
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.
Thats pretty amazing!
A9 (not the II) mess up WB some times and I had some unrecoverable portraits. A9 generally has a magenta cast and it's hard to get rid of it. I tried Fuji for some time. While Fuji mess up WB more often, the only thing I had to change in ACR was WB. It was easy to get consistent result with Fuji. I hope Sony has improved.
Feb 14, 2021 at 01:01 PM
p.27 #4A1 Reviews/Video thread
Jemini wrote:
Thats pretty amazing!A9 (not the II) mess up WB some times and I had some unrecoverable portraits. A9 generally has a magenta cast and it's hard to get rid of it. I tried Fuji for some time. While Fuji mess up WB more often, the only thing I had to change in ACR was WB. It was easy to get consistent result with Fuji. I hope Sony has improved.
Sony has included an IR WB sensor in the A1, same as the one in the Siii, I suspect the sample images from the Siii in regards to WB should be the same/similar to the A1
Lassep wrote
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.Thats pretty amazing!
Sony has included an IR WB sensor in the A1, same as the one in the Siii, I suspect the sample images from the Siii in regards to WB should be the same/similar to the A1
Feb 14, 2021 at 01:06 PM
p.27 #5A1 Reviews/Video thread
Hope it works 😉.
webmstrk9 wrote:
Thats pretty amazing!A9 (not the II) mess up WB some times and I had some unrecoverable portraits. A9 generally has a magenta cast and it's hard to get rid of it. I tried Fuji for some time. While Fuji mess up WB more often, the only thing I had to change in ACR was WB. It was easy to get consistent result with Fuji. I hope Sony has improved.Sony has included an IR WB sensor in the A1, same as the one in the Siii, I suspect the sample images from the Siii in regards to WB should be the same/similar to the A1
webmstrk9 wrote:
Jemini wrote
Lassep wrote
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.Thats pretty amazing!
Feb 14, 2021 at 02:05 PM
p.27 #6A1 Reviews/Video thread
Jemini wrote:
Thats pretty amazing!A9 (not the II) mess up WB some times and I had some unrecoverable portraits. A9 generally has a magenta cast and it's hard to get rid of it. I tried Fuji for some time. While Fuji mess up WB more often, the only thing I had to change in ACR was WB. It was easy to get consistent result with Fuji. I hope Sony has improved.
So why do you shoot JPEG if you have issues with the WB?
Lassep wrote
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.Thats pretty amazing!
So why do you shoot JPEG if you have issues with the WB?
Feb 14, 2021 at 03:10 PM
p.27 #7A1 Reviews/Video thread
Bryan Crowe wrote:
Do any of the reviews comment on the ability to switch between crop mode and normal when buffering ?
I believe it was Alex Phan who has confirmed that this works now, so there is no need to wait for the buffer to clear in order to toggle to/from APSC.
Do any of the reviews comment on the ability to switch between crop mode and normal when buffering ?
I believe it was Alex Phan who has confirmed that this works now, so there is no need to wait for the buffer to clear in order to toggle to/from APSC.
Feb 14, 2021 at 03:13 PM
p.27 #8A1 Reviews/Video thread
“A1 already out selling the A7sIII which [itself] broke [sales] records” [Sony has had to go back to the factory and request triple A1 output]
https://youtu.be/lpURG8VUVFM
https://youtu.be/lpURG8VUVFM
Feb 14, 2021 at 04:00 PM
p.27 #9A1 Reviews/Video thread
If you were asking me, I'm shooting JPG and RAW. I struggled with RAW in ACR. I also tried in Sony Edit which was better but not perfect. Pic was in mixed indoor lights.
Daran wrote:
Thats pretty amazing!A9 (not the II) mess up WB some times and I had some unrecoverable portraits. A9 generally has a magenta cast and it's hard to get rid of it. I tried Fuji for some time. While Fuji mess up WB more often, the only thing I had to change in ACR was WB. It was easy to get consistent result with Fuji. I hope Sony has improved.So why do you shoot JPEG if you have issues with the WB?
Daran wrote:
Jemini wrote
Lassep wrote
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.Thats pretty amazing!
Feb 14, 2021 at 04:50 PM
p.27 #10A1 Reviews/Video thread
The first thing I did was put it up against the 7R4 and R5, and the colors look like they closely mirror the Canon. That's a good thing - I always hated sony color. But the cameras are just so good..
Feb 14, 2021 at 05:49 PM
p.27 #11A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
Finally same thing at 6400...
EDIT...added the A9II file for good measure....that file is getting close to 100% crop. The crop ends up around 1600 wide and my output to FM is 1400.
Judging from the samples posted, I think that the realistic limit to preserve textures and fine detail is ISO 6400 (I suppose this ISO implies maintaining details in birds' feathers). Keeping in mind the downscaled interpolation applied to the higher resolution bodies to the 24 mpx of the A9II, the A7 R4 is the best in this aspect, closely followed by A1. R5 feels a tad worse than the other two, but not bad at all in absolute terms (does it really applies some NR by defalult in the raws, loosing some detail??). A9II is out of the game IMHO.
Finally same thing at 6400...
EDIT...added the A9II file for good measure....that file is getting close to 100% crop. The crop ends up around 1600 wide and my output to FM is 1400.
Judging from the samples posted, I think that the realistic limit to preserve textures and fine detail is ISO 6400 (I suppose this ISO implies maintaining details in birds' feathers). Keeping in mind the downscaled interpolation applied to the higher resolution bodies to the 24 mpx of the A9II, the A7 R4 is the best in this aspect, closely followed by A1. R5 feels a tad worse than the other two, but not bad at all in absolute terms (does it really applies some NR by defalult in the raws, loosing some detail??). A9II is out of the game IMHO.
Feb 15, 2021 at 02:28 PM
p.27 #12A1 Reviews/Video thread
Bryan Crowe wrote:
Do any of the reviews comment on the ability to switch between crop mode and normal when buffering ?
It's been confirmed you can
Do any of the reviews comment on the ability to switch between crop mode and normal when buffering ?
It's been confirmed you can
Feb 15, 2021 at 03:52 PM
p.27 #13A1 Reviews/Video thread
Lassep wrote:
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.
Thats pretty amazing!
Yes, the skin-tones on the A1 now look similar to Nikon (with the caveat about the validity of using pictures for this: re metermerism etc).
That said, what struck me was the image quality of the A1 files vs the A7rIV: the A1's file appear as sharp or sharper, with less CA, tonaly richer and with greater clarity. Perhaps the newer version of ACR is playing a role here, and/or in-camera processing. Regardless, based on this one lab shot, the A1 seems to set a new image quality bar (dynamic range evaluation pending)
You can see the effect of the low-pass-filter on the R5's still file, although Canon hits back with more detailed 8K video (at the expence of a more processed look compared to the A1).
My biggest takeaway from the studio comparison is that the colors of the new Alpha 1 seem to have improved a great deal. This is pretty big as i do portraits and wildlife in combination. The Sony colors/whitebalance has always (in my opinion) required a lot more post-processing than their competitors to be acceptable. Now looking in a comparison between The A1, R5, D850 and Z7II i find that the A1 and D850 are equally pleasing, while the R5 and the Z7II are not on par.
Thats pretty amazing!
Yes, the skin-tones on the A1 now look similar to Nikon (with the caveat about the validity of using pictures for this: re metermerism etc).
That said, what struck me was the image quality of the A1 files vs the A7rIV: the A1's file appear as sharp or sharper, with less CA, tonaly richer and with greater clarity. Perhaps the newer version of ACR is playing a role here, and/or in-camera processing. Regardless, based on this one lab shot, the A1 seems to set a new image quality bar (dynamic range evaluation pending)
You can see the effect of the low-pass-filter on the R5's still file, although Canon hits back with more detailed 8K video (at the expence of a more processed look compared to the A1).
Feb 16, 2021 at 03:21 AM
p.27 #14A1 Reviews/Video thread
fototrainer iso review video finally has subtitles/translation
https://youtu.be/9fIUWVhYZgQ
https://youtu.be/9fIUWVhYZgQ
Feb 16, 2021 at 06:04 PM
p.27 #15A1 Reviews/Video thread
Interesting live stream from Patrick Murphy-Racey.
It’s quite long. And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
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It’s quite long. And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
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Feb 16, 2021 at 09:30 PM
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p.27 #16A1 Reviews/Video thread
Can you clue us in so we don’t have to blindly watch a movie length zoom call? 
robert614 wrote:
Interesting live stream from Patrick Murphy-Racey.
It’s quite long, And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
robert614 wrote:
Interesting live stream from Patrick Murphy-Racey.
It’s quite long, And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
Feb 16, 2021 at 09:33 PM
p.27 #17A1 Reviews/Video thread
RoamingScott wrote:
Can you clue us in so we don’t have to blindly watch a movie length zoom call?
It’s quite long, And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
Lol. Sure.
The Maple Leaf’s photographer is really stoked about the 1/400 (1/500 in aps-c) flash sync speed.
He uses strobes when shooting hockey and basketball. Even though the flash freezes the action. The 1/250th second sync speed he’s been using up until now would still sometimes result in blurring on very fast movements. So having the higher sync speed is very exciting to him.
That, coupled with “Hypersyncing”, he said he was able get 1/800th of sec flash sync when in aps-c mode on the A1.
Can you clue us in so we don’t have to blindly watch a movie length zoom call?
robert614 wrote
Interesting live stream from Patrick Murphy-Racey.It’s quite long, And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
Lol. Sure.
The Maple Leaf’s photographer is really stoked about the 1/400 (1/500 in aps-c) flash sync speed.
He uses strobes when shooting hockey and basketball. Even though the flash freezes the action. The 1/250th second sync speed he’s been using up until now would still sometimes result in blurring on very fast movements. So having the higher sync speed is very exciting to him.
That, coupled with “Hypersyncing”, he said he was able get 1/800th of sec flash sync when in aps-c mode on the A1.
Feb 16, 2021 at 09:41 PM
p.27 #18A1 Reviews/Video thread
robert614 wrote:
It’s quite long, And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaALol. Sure.
The Maple Leaf’s photographer is really stoked about the 1/400 (1/500 in aps-c) flash sync speed.
He uses strobes when shooting hockey and basketball. Even though the flash freezes the action. The 1/250th second sync speed he’s been using up until now would still sometimes result in blurring on very fast movements. So having the higher sync speed is very exciting to him.
That, coupled with “Hypersyncing”, he said he was able get 1/800th of sec flash sync when in aps-c mode on the A1.
I am, too. As an event photographer this rang a bell with me.
RoamingScott wrote
Can you clue us in so we don’t have to blindly watch a movie length zoom call?robert614 wrote
Interesting live stream from Patrick Murphy-Racey.It’s quite long, And the aspect of the A1 they discuss is pretty niche. But it’s interesting to hear the perspective of a professional sports photographer and what he considers the stand out feature of the A1.
https://youtu.be/yHk764nlGaA
The Maple Leaf’s photographer is really stoked about the 1/400 (1/500 in aps-c) flash sync speed.
He uses strobes when shooting hockey and basketball. Even though the flash freezes the action. The 1/250th second sync speed he’s been using up until now would still sometimes result in blurring on very fast movements. So having the higher sync speed is very exciting to him.
That, coupled with “Hypersyncing”, he said he was able get 1/800th of sec flash sync when in aps-c mode on the A1.
I am, too. As an event photographer this rang a bell with me.
Feb 17, 2021 at 02:09 AM
p.27 #20A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
Added to the main list.... I need someone to lend me equipment so I can beat the sh%t out of it without a care in the world :-) Glad to see it held up and I like his results.... although not in agreement on his jpg comments, its good to see the camera get put through some real world paces.
Added to the main list.... I need someone to lend me equipment so I can beat the sh%t out of it without a care in the world :-) Glad to see it held up and I like his results.... although not in agreement on his jpg comments, its good to see the camera get put through some real world paces.
Feb 18, 2021 at 07:21 AM