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p.12 #1 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Is there any possibility for A9/A9II/A7RIV users to get FW with that bird eye focus?


Jan 26, 2021 at 03:37 PM
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p.12 #2 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Nice job Sony, now just take this sensor and put it in the A7c body. Give us the new AF/colors/menu and you can keep the video specs as they are not needed Winner winner.


Jan 26, 2021 at 03:39 PM
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p.12 #3 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)



Those are pretty good looking.
snapsy wrote:
I downloaded

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sony's 8K Sample Video
and extracted some screen grabs:

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Jan 26, 2021 at 03:39 PM
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p.12 #4 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Jemini wrote:
Is there any possibility for A9/A9II/A7RIV users to get FW with that bird eye focus?


People keep asking this question, but I think Sony has shown it has no intention of "backporting" the new features into old products...
Otherwise, we'd see multi-colored focus point already in the older cameras...



Jan 26, 2021 at 03:41 PM
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p.12 #5 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


It may have a slight, acute impact between now and shipping, but they’re not cannibalizing the a9 line if that’s what you’re asking.

JadedWriter wrote:
Can this thing tank the A9II on the used market?




Jan 26, 2021 at 03:45 PM
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p.12 #6 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Steve Spencer wrote:
For lots of reasons that supposed 15 stops of DR doesn't tell us much. First, that is at low ISO not high ISO. Second, it tells us nothing about patterns in the noise which can make or break high ISO performance. Third it is a bit of a made up number. You can't talk about DR without making some assumptions and Sony tells us nothing about the assumptions they are making to get that number. Fourth, we have seen that number before. Sony said the same thing about the A7r IV, but its high ISO performance isn't as good
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Caution is a good word at this point and definitely need more testing. It's important to note that by every apples to apples comparison, the high ISO noise performance on the A7R4 is equal to or better than the A7R3 when down sampled from 61MP to 42MP. Having said that, I expect the A1 to come in better than the downsampled A7R4 due to improvements with this new, never seen before sensor. I'm sure we'll know fairly soon where it stacks up.

Topaz Denoise AI has completely changed the game on high ISO noise and this is not the huge unsolvable hardware issue that it once was.

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Jan 26, 2021 at 03:46 PM
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p.12 #7 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


photomadnz wrote:
Great spec and Im sure that AF is incredible. Im a little bemused that they didn't add a flip screen though?! For a truly hybrid camera it will be a nightmare on a lot of gimbals


At the German Sony live talk they mentioned this and that pros Sony asked (with connection to AP) were against it. The less moving parts the better.
I don't need it either, so am fine with this ;-)



Jan 26, 2021 at 03:50 PM
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p.12 #8 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Would be nice, I really don't need a $6500 camera, also hoping this effects the pricing later this year cause I'm sure as hell not buying anything now...also if Nikon can finally put out a Z mount 200-600 I might not even care.
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It may have a slight, acute impact between now and shipping, but they’re not cannibalizing the a9 line if that’s what you’re asking.






Jan 26, 2021 at 03:51 PM
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p.12 #9 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


My opinion on 'crappy' back screens by the way, is that for my use until they make ones that have 0 glare, I don't care. I use it for menus and histograms only, if I'm doing a detailed chimp I use the OVF anyway.


Jan 26, 2021 at 03:54 PM
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p.12 #10 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


As expected, no EDU discounts on the A1 at this early stage. My guess would be black Friday 2021.


Jan 26, 2021 at 03:55 PM
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p.12 #11 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


I can't believe we are in a time where this is now an official highlight spec of a camera

take off mode, hehe

Dedicated Real-time Eye AF Bird Mode lets you select the bird to be tracked and the camera will automatically detect the bird's eye and track it, regardless if the bird is in flight or still. This mode even works once a sitting bird takes flight



Jan 26, 2021 at 03:58 PM
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p.12 #12 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


httivals wrote:
In other words, it's probably a good 3-4 stops better than I get with the A7RIV and the 24-105mm f4 IS G lens.



Extraordinarily skeptical of that degree of improvement from Sony to Canon IBIS.




Jan 26, 2021 at 04:00 PM
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p.12 #13 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Sounds like an incredible camera! Total and complete overkill for my purposes. So timing this "essential purchase" for my photography will likely involve a much larger purchase for my better half to keep a happy household.




Jan 26, 2021 at 04:10 PM
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p.12 #14 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Jemini wrote:
Is there any possibility for A9/A9II/A7RIV users to get FW with that bird eye focus?


I only really want two things for my A9II. Bird eye focus and faster startup time. Fingers crossed we don’t get abandoned.



Jan 26, 2021 at 04:14 PM
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p.12 #15 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Colin F wrote:
I always have to chuckle when someone asserts "Memory is cheap now!"


It is relative to a $6,500 camera and a $12,000 lens.



Jan 26, 2021 at 04:18 PM
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p.12 #16 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Just to clarify, those images were provided by Sony to DPR and, presumably, others.

I see no indication that DPR or anyone else has had their hands on this one.



Jan 26, 2021 at 04:22 PM
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p.12 #17 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


First, you may want to ask JMAN13, who reports that there is a significant difference. Second, it's the combination of using the lens IS and the body IS that takes the image stabilization to a whole different level, like with the Olympus OMD em1 Mark III and certain lenses. . . . But I agree, you need to really try it yourself in your use scenarios to see whether it makes a difference. That's why I'm on a waiting list for a Canon R5. . . It also had the added benefit of occupying my energy/mind during the ongoing pandemic isolation.

lightskyland wrote:
Extraordinarily skeptical of that degree of improvement from Sony to Canon IBIS.






Jan 26, 2021 at 04:28 PM
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p.12 #18 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Douglas Liu wrote:
Just ordered a 168 GB Sony Cfexpress A card, $400! ouch!! I can only afford to buy only one for now.


I'm going to see how bad it is with SD first. Unless my dealer can get me a good discount on the CFE A card when I order the camera.

If I can manage with SD for a little while then hopefully the competition will get on board and drop prices to CFE B levels.



Jan 26, 2021 at 04:31 PM
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p.12 #19 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


As much as I love my a9ii, my R5’s IBIS is quite a bit better. I can handhold 1-2” shots with the R5 and see maybe 50% in focus.


Jan 26, 2021 at 04:32 PM
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p.12 #20 · Pre-Order Sony Alpha A1 (50MP, 30fps, 8K)


Jemini wrote:
Is there any possibility for A9/A9II/A7RIV users to get FW with that bird eye focus?


My gut tells me the new AI is tied to the new processor and probably to the 120 AF calculations per second (2x the A9 and 4x the A7RIV). So I'd give it a very low chance. The A7SIII would have the best bet of getting it but Bird Eye-AF is not available in video mode even on the A1 so I don't think Sony will be bothered to bring it to the A7SIII.



Jan 26, 2021 at 04:34 PM
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