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Archive 2020 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses

  
 
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I'm especially curious to see how the 24mm handles transition zones when used wide open. This has historically been a huge problem for wides, they often give any background texture a really harsh, busy look.

It's where the design philosophy - yes, it was intentional - behind the 45/2.8, emphasizing classic rendition and under-correcting for SA, but with all other aberrations well controlled, could make it a winner.

Even though I'm broke for a while, I'd just be a huge hypocrite if I didn't buy this lens when it's released. Heck, I may even make it my first-ever preorder. It's exactly what I've been nagging Sigma to make: a compact wide in the physical style of the 45/2.8. 28mm is a "normal" lens for video shot at 2.35 ratio, so this lens is a perfect complement to the Sigma Fp.



Nov 28, 2020 at 03:54 PM
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imagesfromobjects wrote:
I'm especially curious to see how the 24mm handles transition zones when used wide open. This has historically been a huge problem for wides, they often give any background texture a really harsh, busy look.

It's where the design philosophy - yes, it was intentional - behind the 45/2.8, emphasizing classic rendition and under-correcting for SA, but with all other aberrations well controlled, could make it a winner.

Even though I'm broke for a while, I'd just be a huge hypocrite if I didn't buy this lens when it's released. Heck, I may even make it my first-ever preorder. It's exactly what
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It could be a nice wide complement to the 45/2.8. They are actually about the same size.



Nov 28, 2020 at 04:42 PM
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p.9 #3 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


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Yeah, about 5-10% of my shots might be close to maximum magnification of the 40, with the majority of that coming from photowalks and a minority coming from spontaneous documentation. Looking at that figure I could say it's not a must-have maybe, but I know I'm going to miss it if I don't have it. Sony's 35 1.8 is obviously the best replacement in this regard, and it might be what I end up pairing the α7C with—but I know I'm going to miss the 40's optics. Sony's 35 is not a slouch, per say, just not as special as
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I think my shooting style is similar, especially now that my commute to the office is from my kitchen to my dining room table. I force myself out to go for walks in my neighbourhood and I almost always take my A7RII and a lens, these days the 45/2.8 or 100STF. What I wind up taking a lot of photos of are flowers, leaves, interesting patterns, etc. I might say that 20% of my shots are what I would term 'close focus' but even before, MFD was always a huge consideration. I think it might be from the twin experiences of buying the Nikon 28/2.8 AIs, which has terrific close focus performance, for my F3 and the Minolta 28-135 AF for my Maxxum 7. That lens had an awful 1.5m close focus, though was optically excellent. I loved the Nikon, was frustrated as hell by the Minolta. I vowed to always pay attention to the MFD of my lenses after that.

We'll have to see. To be honest, I have a fascination/trepidation of Sigma's 45. It has produced perhaps the best looking images I've seen in a midspeed prime, but the SA that quality seems to come from has a huge amount of hassle attached to it. The 40 also has some SA—and while I don't agree with Zeiss' decision to take away control of the aperture when SA flares up I can kinda understand it: it takes the hassle out of the equation. However, the best control of this kind of look has to come from Sony's 20 G, 24 GM,...Show more

I had thought that about the SA of the Sigma as well, and really went back and forth on my purchase decision. I finally said 'screw it' and just went for it and I'm really glad that I did. Apart from being a pleasure to handle and use, I think the designers achieved a very interesting balance. At arm's length, portraits are almost perfect; sharp enough but with a subtle and pleasing rendering. As you get closer than that, into the close focus range near MFD, that's where it gets problematic, but truth be told, I'm almost always going to stop down to f/4 or f/5.6 for DOF anyways, so I don't really see the problem in real world usage. I turned up in my testing, for sure, it's there. But it's just not how I naturally use a lens. At f/4 resolution almost explodes and the lens is critically sharp in a broad central area. At infinity, it's a near perfect landscape lens in terms of sharpness, sharp into the extreme corners by f/5.6 and certainly by f/8. So the SA issue really only rears its ugly (glowy?) head at or near f/2.8 and MFD.

Now, I'm a very un-demanding AF user, so I haven't run into the C-AF issue and can't comment on that. I have an A7RII so I use eye AF tasked to a custom button and in AF-S. No issues. I can imagine, though, how small focus inaccuracies in AF-C would drive someone crazy, especially on the 60mp of the RIV.

But if Sigma manages to get some of the 'magic' from the 45 into the 24/35/65 trio, I'll buy one for sure. I don't want them to duplicate the 45, just to add something interesting and unique. I look forward to seeing Mr. Yamaki's presentation...I love his detailed explanations. They're insightful and he is very real, not slick or polished, just someone who clearly believes in his company, his engineers and his products.



Nov 28, 2020 at 04:56 PM
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p.9 #4 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


Little off topic but maybe a important factor here on super wide. I tested the Laowa 14mm today and it’s damn sharp even wide open . But to be brutally honest the A7C jpegs are too contrasty and certainly over processed. I’m without C1 as it’s not supported yet and Big Bronco needs C1 to process. So I’m stuck and pissed at the same time. The Samyang 75 1.8 also looks really good. These may fit in the fringes on these Sigmas. I’m not a expert in LR so I’m really reluctant to post anything yet. I’m too much a perfectionist about processing.

But I know a member may have got a bad Laowa 14 but there is hope . Mine looks awesome. BTW don’t use AWB as it has no clue on color science. Anyway that 14 would be nice in here. It’s really small



Nov 28, 2020 at 05:26 PM
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p.9 #5 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


Just playing around.

New Sigma Series "I" without their hoods:







Nov 28, 2020 at 05:43 PM
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Not exactly a full body portrait heh, but shows rendering and blur against a bit demanding background imho:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mcvWZPJ/0/5f1f9c6e/X3/i-mcvWZPJ-X3.jpg

I need to go through all my photos, maybe I can find something more fitting .


Yes!! This is helpful! Thank you

Any more you have would be greatly appreciated as well!



Nov 28, 2020 at 07:22 PM
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p.9 #7 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


Fred Miranda wrote:
Just playing around.

New Sigma Series "I" without their hoods:


Thanks Fred. Man, what a nice looking set. I want them all - lol.

The size of the 24 is more how I pictured it to be, but the specs say it’s actually a couple of mm taller than the 45, and the same diameter? Hopefully it’s as you’ve shown.



Nov 28, 2020 at 08:10 PM
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p.9 #8 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


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Thanks Fred. Man, what a nice looking set. I want them all - lol.

The size of the 24 is more how I pictured it to be, but the specs say it’s actually a couple of mm taller than the 45, and the same diameter? Hopefully it’s as you’ve shown.


Yes, it's about 3mm taller than the 45/2.8 but I think the leaked images are for the L-mount versions.



Nov 28, 2020 at 09:05 PM
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p.9 #9 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


I don't wanna come off shallow, or like I'm objectifying anything, but those are some sexy lenses right there.

Dayyyummm.

Fred Miranda wrote:
Just playing around.

New Sigma Series "I" without their hoods:




Nov 29, 2020 at 12:06 AM
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Yes, it's about 3mm taller than the 45/2.8 but I think the leaked images are for the L-mount versions.


Am I dreaming, or did you update the image to make the 24 larger?



Nov 29, 2020 at 09:51 AM
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p.9 #11 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


I don't know if it is posted but I saw it on the A7C thread:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sigma-leaks-the-details-about-the-new-24mm-f-3-5-dg-gn-lens/

"The L mount version of the new Sigma lens has a 24mm lens configuration of 10 elements in 8 groups (including 1 SLD glass and 3 aspherical lenses), a minimum shooting distance of 10.8cm, a maximum shooting magnification of 1: 2, a filter diameter of 55mm, and a size of φ64×48.8mm, 549 USD.

35mm is 10 elements in 9 groups (1 SLD, 3 aspherical surfaces), minimum 27cm, maximum 1: 5.66, filter 58mm, φ70×67.4mm, 325g, $ 639.

65mm lens configuration 12 elements in 9 groups (including 1 SLD glass and 2 aspherical lenses), minimum shooting distance 55cm, maximum shooting magnification 1: 6.81, filter diameter 62mm, size φ72×74.7mm, weight 405g, $ 699 It seems to be."

In comparison, from B&H Specs:

Loxia 25mm 2.5 62 x 75mm 393g
Samyang 35mm 1.8 65 x 63.5mm 210g
Sony 55mm 64.52 x 70.61mm 281g

24mm is the smallest and more interesting esp for A7C unless you want the set...



Nov 29, 2020 at 03:10 PM
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p.9 #12 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


21mm is one of my favourite focal lengths but I would be happy with Sigma releasing a 18/f2 insteadso it gaps better between 24.


Nov 29, 2020 at 03:31 PM
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p.9 #13 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


"It seems that the new Sigma lenses will be released on December 18, 2020 for 35mm and 65mm, and January 22, 2021 for 24mm.#噂"
https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1333413234846490631

Tons of images showing the new Sigma Series I lenses:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12R0SD6sngwVRJpdPWs34ivYsBKE6jjx4



















Lens cap holder?




Nov 30, 2020 at 10:09 AM
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p.9 #14 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


Is that a (magnetic?) lens cap holder??


Nov 30, 2020 at 10:14 AM
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Disappointing date on the 24, but I guess we’ve had longer waits for things as well.


Nov 30, 2020 at 10:49 AM
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p.9 #16 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


I'm happy the 35/2 is coming out pretty soon and in time for Christmas and New Year holidays as that's the one I'm most eager to get from these...

I wonder how one can pull out that magnetic cap from the lens while the hood is on... I hope this cap holder is not needed for that operation.



Nov 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM
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p.9 #17 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


I think Sigma needs to give whoever designed the 35mm format contemporary line like a 2% cut of the gross profits rofl. Sexist lens design in lens design history? I'm not even sure I'm kidding. Those are gooooooooooooood.


Nov 30, 2020 at 11:28 AM
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Yes, very handsome lenses. I have always liked Sigma build quality as well.


Nov 30, 2020 at 11:33 AM
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JVan_02 wrote:
I think Sigma needs to give whoever designed the 35mm format contemporary line like a 2% cut of the gross profits rofl. Sexist lens design in lens design history? I'm not even sure I'm kidding. Those are gooooooooooooood.


Really? I was just looking at the pictures thinking „man this 35mm and 65mm are ugly“ - don’t like this clutch-thingy that doesn’t seem to have a purpose. Also hate the lens hood

I guess design is a very subjective thing



Nov 30, 2020 at 11:35 AM
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p.9 #20 · Pre-order: Sigma 24mm f/3.5, 35mm f/2 and 65mm f/2 DG DN lenses


I will replace Loxia35 with Sigma 35/2




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