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Archive 2021Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
p.53 #1Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
scalanc2 wrote:
Personally I do not care too much to handle a weight of 0.7 kg or so.
I do not understand the reason why people is so concerned about ultra light lenses.
We all manage zooms for all the day and a 35 must be super light.
WHY!!!
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Try carrying your camera / lens around your neck everyday, all day for 3 weeks and you'll quickly realize why some of us that travel value light compact lenses.
Personally I do not care too much to handle a weight of 0.7 kg or so.
I do not understand the reason why people is so concerned about ultra light lenses.
We all manage zooms for all the day and a 35 must be super light.
WHY!!!
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Try carrying your camera / lens around your neck everyday, all day for 3 weeks and you'll quickly realize why some of us that travel value light compact lenses.
Jan 29, 2021 at 08:56 AM
p.53 #2Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I usually do.
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
Jan 29, 2021 at 10:08 AM
p.53 #3Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
wind30 wrote:
... I don't care about sharpness be the neon green branches of the gm pic screams at me...
It is one of the worst LoCA samples I have seen from the 35mm gm.
Edit: went to the page and those were heavily cropped. I thought it was uncropped...
you can see the sigma has less LoCA too
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scalanc2 wrote:
CA seems to be a problem on this lens.
Important or not import it is there clearly visible in many pictures.
This one and focus breathing.
On the other side many aspects are top level.
But still not a perfect lens as all others.
Remember when the Sigma 35/1.2 Art was released and we had pages and pages of complaints about its LoCA correction?
Here is the link:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1606567/9#14935409
None of these 35mm lenses are super corrected for axial CA. Not even the big Sigma.
The best I've seen so far is the Canon 35/1.4L II but rendering is not smooth. There are trade-offs.
Some fringing actually helps rendering. Background foliage with green fringing around the edges helps smooth the edges of specular highlights.
Do we really want clinical super corrected lenses?
... I don't care about sharpness be the neon green branches of the gm pic screams at me...
It is one of the worst LoCA samples I have seen from the 35mm gm.
Edit: went to the page and those were heavily cropped. I thought it was uncropped...
you can see the sigma has less LoCA too
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scalanc2 wrote:
CA seems to be a problem on this lens.
Important or not import it is there clearly visible in many pictures.
This one and focus breathing.
On the other side many aspects are top level.
But still not a perfect lens as all others.
Remember when the Sigma 35/1.2 Art was released and we had pages and pages of complaints about its LoCA correction?
Here is the link:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1606567/9#14935409
None of these 35mm lenses are super corrected for axial CA. Not even the big Sigma.
The best I've seen so far is the Canon 35/1.4L II but rendering is not smooth. There are trade-offs.
Some fringing actually helps rendering. Background foliage with green fringing around the edges helps smooth the edges of specular highlights.
Do we really want clinical super corrected lenses?
Jan 29, 2021 at 10:13 AM
p.53 #4Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I'm kind of hoping that the 35 GM will render similarly to my 35mm Leica APO Summicron-SL... and that, if so, Sony releases a 50mm 1.4 GM. The only focal lengths I use on the Leica are 35, 50 and 90. I preordered the Alpha 1 and hope to be able to consolidate everything into one system.
Jan 29, 2021 at 10:18 AM
p.53 #5Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
scalanc2 wrote:
I usually do.
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend your purchase to anyone here
Edited on Jan 29, 2021 at 04:50 PM · View previous versions
I usually do.
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend your purchase to anyone here
Edited on Jan 29, 2021 at 04:50 PM · View previous versions
Jan 29, 2021 at 10:30 AM
p.53 #6Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Steve Spencer wrote:
There are too many to talk about here. Do I need to go through detail ? I would say if I first see this set a few days ago, I will not interested in this lens. Either his process or something about this lens in some of this light condition totally changed my initially good impression about it. I don't want to be the one ruel the party.
Now I need see more images. The skin tone is quite disaster in this set, but don't get me wrong. I don't buy the generalization about Sony Skin tone have problem, I didn't have problems about it and have no such a complaint and so are many others. You can't expect more "digital" look images than these. I am not saying skin tone has anything to do with this lens. Just bring some hope that it is the process and harsh lighting.He's probably edited the images to this own taste and post-processing is usually detrimental to rendering. Therefore, I don't think we should make assumptions here except that the lens is indeed very sharp.
Only "out of the camera" samples at mid-distance showing complex backgrounds can help us know more about the lens overall rendering. I say mid-distance because that's where the transition zone becomes part of the background and easier to see rendering quality without the interference of blur.
It's scary to me that the lens is so sharp at close distance. This usually means Sony fully corrected spherical aberration for this lens and that's not good news for those looking for a 35mm with outstanding rendering. The more I see it, the more I think the new 35/1.4 GM has more in common with the 135/1.8's rendering than the 24/1.4 or 85/1.4 GM lenses. However, without testing the lens, it's hard to know for sure. It would be great if a reviewer posted a gallery showing subjects a mid-distance with minimal post-processing, so we can get more clarity on this.It looks to me like the 35 GM makes some of the compromises of the 24 GM (e.g., small size for less than perfect correction of color aberrations) and some of the compromises of the 135 GM (maximizing sharpness for neutral rendering rather than a softer rendering). I can live with these compromises even though they are not what I prefer. My wife actually favors both of these compromises, and as she will be the primary user of this lens they work our well for us. Still I can see that people might like different ones.
Personally, I would like to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for rendering, and aperture for color correction maintaining a small size, but nobody asks me or seems to design lenses for what I want. The CV 50 f/2 APO comes close, but even there I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for a bit better rendering. Even though I don't see many lenses that have the compromises I would really like, I see a lot of really nice lenses with different compromises and that are still attractive. The GM 35 f/1.4 is certainly one of them.Just curious, what is your favorite rendering 35mm? Any format, speed or system and without sensitivity to usability, price and size.A really good question. I don't like most 35mm lenses and all that I really like are manual focus. Three that I like follow a lineage. One of my favorite rendering 35mm lenses of all time, is the Zeiss C/Y 35 f/1.4. It has a lot of weaknesses, however, with a lot of axial CA and the bokeh can be challenging at times, but when it gets it right it is lovely. I also very much like the Zeiss ZE/ZF/ZF.2 35 f/1.4 which is obviously related. It is slightly easier to shoot, with really nice bokeh, but still a...Show more →
+1 on the RX1 and the Zeiss 35/1.4 "Classic".
Both are amazing.
I also like the 35/2 "Classic".
Slightly less flexible than the 1.4 but what pop. Lighter too.
nehemiahphoto wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
zhangyue wrote
Hodie wrote
What would turn you on? Just asking.? I would say if I first see this set a few days ago, I will not interested in this lens. Either his process or something about this lens in some of this light condition totally changed my initially good impression about it. I don't want to be the one ruel the party. Now I need see more images. The skin tone is quite disaster in this set, but don't get me wrong. I don't buy the generalization about Sony Skin tone have problem, I didn't have problems about it and have no such a complaint and so are many others. You can't expect more "digital" look images than these. I am not saying skin tone has anything to do with this lens. Just bring some hope that it is the process and harsh lighting.
Only "out of the camera" samples at mid-distance showing complex backgrounds can help us know more about the lens overall rendering. I say mid-distance because that's where the transition zone becomes part of the background and easier to see rendering quality without the interference of blur.
It's scary to me that the lens is so sharp at close distance. This usually means Sony fully corrected spherical aberration for this lens and that's not good news for those looking for a 35mm with outstanding rendering. The more I see it, the more I think the new 35/1.4 GM has more in common with the 135/1.8's rendering than the 24/1.4 or 85/1.4 GM lenses. However, without testing the lens, it's hard to know for sure. It would be great if a reviewer posted a gallery showing subjects a mid-distance with minimal post-processing, so we can get more clarity on this.
Personally, I would like to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for rendering, and aperture for color correction maintaining a small size, but nobody asks me or seems to design lenses for what I want. The CV 50 f/2 APO comes close, but even there I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for a bit better rendering. Even though I don't see many lenses that have the compromises I would really like, I see a lot of really nice lenses with different compromises and that are still attractive. The GM 35 f/1.4 is certainly one of them.
+1 on the RX1 and the Zeiss 35/1.4 "Classic".
Both are amazing.
I also like the 35/2 "Classic".
Slightly less flexible than the 1.4 but what pop. Lighter too.
Jan 29, 2021 at 10:32 AM
p.53 #7Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
nhsonyshooter wrote:
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend you purchase to anyone here
To an extent both camps (Bigma owners and GM purchasers) are trying to defend their forts. Sony ambassadors are paid promoters and that's why you see the misfocused Bigma images being pushed as less sharper images.
Sony is sharper, smaller, lighter, and cheaper and you can argue that its IQ is as good as Sigma if not better. IMO bokeh and rendering are better on Sigma and it produces a more pronounced 3D effect due to vignetting and even shallower DOF (sweet f/1.2). I am most likely going to jump ship to the GM from Bigma, as I prefer smaller and lighter lenses, but as I just purchased Bigma, I am in no rush. I am just waiting for $1088 EDU pricing (current 24GM price) at the end of year to purchase the GM. My real problem is that I find it difficult to part with my favorite lenses, so I will most likely end up with both GM and the Bigma.
scalanc2 wrote
I usually do.Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
To an extent both camps (Bigma owners and GM purchasers) are trying to defend their forts. Sony ambassadors are paid promoters and that's why you see the misfocused Bigma images being pushed as less sharper images.
Sony is sharper, smaller, lighter, and cheaper and you can argue that its IQ is as good as Sigma if not better. IMO bokeh and rendering are better on Sigma and it produces a more pronounced 3D effect due to vignetting and even shallower DOF (sweet f/1.2). I am most likely going to jump ship to the GM from Bigma, as I prefer smaller and lighter lenses, but as I just purchased Bigma, I am in no rush. I am just waiting for $1088 EDU pricing (current 24GM price) at the end of year to purchase the GM. My real problem is that I find it difficult to part with my favorite lenses, so I will most likely end up with both GM and the Bigma.
Jan 29, 2021 at 02:11 PM
p.53 #8Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
ramesesthe2nd wrote:
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend you purchase to anyone hereTo an extent both camps (Bigma owners and GM purchasers) are trying to defend their forts. Sony ambassadors are paid promoters and that's why you see the misfocused Bigma images being pushed as less sharper images.
You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?
nhsonyshooter wrote
scalanc2 wrote
I usually do.Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?
Jan 29, 2021 at 02:40 PM
p.53 #9Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
DaveFP wrote:
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend you purchase to anyone hereTo an extent both camps (Bigma owners and GM purchasers) are trying to defend their forts. Sony ambassadors are paid promoters and that's why you see the misfocused Bigma images being pushed as less sharper images.You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?
Did you not see the video and the provided samples? Are you telling me that a guy who shoots professionally accidently posted misfocused samples to prove Sony was sharper?
ramesesthe2nd wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
scalanc2 wrote
I usually do.Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
Anything to back your claim?
Did you not see the video and the provided samples? Are you telling me that a guy who shoots professionally accidently posted misfocused samples to prove Sony was sharper?
Jan 29, 2021 at 03:15 PM
p.53 #10Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Please guys, let's take a step back on the accusations and try to be more objective. I'm sure we will see more comparisons very soon.
Jan 29, 2021 at 03:20 PM
p.53 #11Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I don't think there's anything fishy going on behind the scenes... it's just that the GM is exceptionally sharp so that when you compare them directly, you get the impression that the Sigma is slightly soft.
Even on the Lego pictures with nearly the same focus point (checked with A7Info) the GM is visibly sharper and the same can be seen at infinity in cameralabs test:
https://www.cameralabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/sony-fe-35mm-f1-4-gm-review-23.jpg
Taken from https://www.cameralabs.com/sony-fe-35mm-f1-4-gm-review/
(I hope I'm not breaking any law by linking this picture here
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Even on the Lego pictures with nearly the same focus point (checked with A7Info) the GM is visibly sharper and the same can be seen at infinity in cameralabs test:
https://www.cameralabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/sony-fe-35mm-f1-4-gm-review-23.jpg
Taken from https://www.cameralabs.com/sony-fe-35mm-f1-4-gm-review/
(I hope I'm not breaking any law by linking this picture here
)Jan 29, 2021 at 03:24 PM
p.53 #12Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
ramesesthe2nd wrote:
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend you purchase to anyone hereTo an extent both camps (Bigma owners and GM purchasers) are trying to defend their forts. Sony ambassadors are paid promoters and that's why you see the misfocused Bigma images being pushed as less sharper images.You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?Did you not see the video and the provided samples? Are you telling me that a guy who shoots professionally accidently posted misfocused samples to prove Sony was sharper?
I don't understand what you are talking about or implying.
lenstip.com showed 66 vs. 50 lp/mm wide open in the center and that should be visible. the cameralabs.com review shows difference when cropping in to 100% and more (looks like 200% to me) in line with these measurements by lenstip. The fantastic Sigma was even bested by the Sony.
DaveFP wrote
ramesesthe2nd wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
scalanc2 wrote
I usually do.Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
Anything to back your claim?
I don't understand what you are talking about or implying.
lenstip.com showed 66 vs. 50 lp/mm wide open in the center and that should be visible. the cameralabs.com review shows difference when cropping in to 100% and more (looks like 200% to me) in line with these measurements by lenstip. The fantastic Sigma was even bested by the Sony.
Jan 29, 2021 at 03:29 PM
p.53 #13Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
This is exactly what I'm waiting for.
Some comparison to see the bokeh and rendering in same conditions.
I also know of copy variance and I believe resolution power is just one parameter, and not the most important to me at this very high level. Also, almost any new entry is praised by reviewers. Market moves also with this support.
No need for me to defend anything, I'm not a seller.
Some comparison to see the bokeh and rendering in same conditions.
I also know of copy variance and I believe resolution power is just one parameter, and not the most important to me at this very high level. Also, almost any new entry is praised by reviewers. Market moves also with this support.
No need for me to defend anything, I'm not a seller.
Jan 29, 2021 at 03:41 PM
p.53 #14Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
scalanc2 wrote:
I usually do.
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
The thing is that the Sony is exceptionally good for the size and weight. And also better than almost any other 35 mm lens, whatever the cost, size and weight. The small differences between it and the Sigma comes down to taste. Personally I wouldn't want the Sigma even if I got it for free. Such a huge lens just ruins the joy of photography, to me. Luckily we can choose what we want and like.
I actually prefer the rendering of the Sony as well, with its lower mechanical vignetting and more neutral bokeh. Not gonna buy it though, because I only use Sony as a secondary system. But if I didn't have my other camera I'd buy the Sony GM in a heartbeat. It looks more or less perfect.
I usually do.
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
The thing is that the Sony is exceptionally good for the size and weight. And also better than almost any other 35 mm lens, whatever the cost, size and weight. The small differences between it and the Sigma comes down to taste. Personally I wouldn't want the Sigma even if I got it for free. Such a huge lens just ruins the joy of photography, to me. Luckily we can choose what we want and like.
I actually prefer the rendering of the Sony as well, with its lower mechanical vignetting and more neutral bokeh. Not gonna buy it though, because I only use Sony as a secondary system. But if I didn't have my other camera I'd buy the Sony GM in a heartbeat. It looks more or less perfect.
Jan 29, 2021 at 04:28 PM
p.53 #16Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Absolutely, when the overall IQ quality is fine for most people nowadays, convenience factors (AF speed, weight and size, future compatibility, etc.) become much higher on the list. I have never used the Sigma 35/1.2, but I have had a sharp and well centered ZE 35/1.4. This appears to render about the same or slightly better (definitely better in term of purple fringing).
In the end, if this amount of CA really bothers some of you that much while weight and size ain't a factor, the Leica Z system is probably your best bet. They don't seem to care much about size and weight there within the same class of optics. Or the Leica SL system, though Leica tax might be too much for some.
Like I said before, this GM 35 and the GM 2 are like the AF version of those Leica M lenses. CA has never been well controlled on those M lenses either and Sony managed to improve on many other aspects (of course due to the bigger size and more weight as well).
In the end, if this amount of CA really bothers some of you that much while weight and size ain't a factor, the Leica Z system is probably your best bet. They don't seem to care much about size and weight there within the same class of optics. Or the Leica SL system, though Leica tax might be too much for some.
Like I said before, this GM 35 and the GM 2 are like the AF version of those Leica M lenses. CA has never been well controlled on those M lenses either and Sony managed to improve on many other aspects (of course due to the bigger size and more weight as well).
Jan 29, 2021 at 06:15 PM
p.53 #17Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Surfnsun wrote:
Tell time to hurry up...
Anyone here will get theirs on the 15th? My local dealer said I can pick my copy up on the 17th
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Tell time to hurry up...
Anyone here will get theirs on the 15th? My local dealer said I can pick my copy up on the 17th
.Jan 29, 2021 at 06:17 PM
p.53 #18Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Makten wrote:
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.Personally I wouldn't want the Sigma even if I got it for free. Such a huge lens just ruins the joy of photography, to me. Luckily we can choose what we want and like.
Wait... get it for free, sell it on the B&S board and use the funds toward the new 35/1.4 GM. 
scalanc2 wrote
I usually do.Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
Wait... get it for free, sell it on the B&S board and use the funds toward the new 35/1.4 GM.
Jan 29, 2021 at 06:21 PM
p.53 #19Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
ramesesthe2nd wrote:
Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.It's OK for you to Like your Sigma. It's a nice lens. But from what I have seen the Sony matches it in a smaller package. Doesn't make your Sigma any worse. Just enjoy it if you don't mind the extra size and weight. No need to defend you purchase to anyone hereTo an extent both camps (Bigma owners and GM purchasers) are trying to defend their forts. Sony ambassadors are paid promoters and that's why you see the misfocused Bigma images being pushed as less sharper images.You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?Did you not see the video and the provided samples? Are you telling me that a guy who shoots professionally accidently posted misfocused samples to prove Sony was sharper?
You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?
DaveFP wrote
ramesesthe2nd wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
scalanc2 wrote
I usually do.Since many years.
An don’t tell me that 200 gr. makes the difference.
For sure I also prefer light stuff but with no trade in quality.
I also know that perfect lenses are not of this world.
This Sony lens is great for some aspects like resolution, dimensions, weight af performances etc. , I don’t know yet.
But for some others like CA, FB, vignetting and bokeh/rendering is nothing more than ordinary to my eyes. Possibly once I make use of it I will change my opinion but at the moment unfortunately it is not so.
Anything to back your claim?
You are accusing them of fraud?
Anything to back your claim?
Jan 29, 2021 at 06:42 PM
p.53 #20Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I was really undecided between the Sigma 35mm F2 and the GM especially since I received the Sigma 65mm and am so impressed with it. However I am within the return/exchange period of a new Sony FE 35mm 1.8 I bought and can exchange it, pay the difference and preorder the GM. That is what I have decided to do. Tired of going back and forth and want to put the 35mm search to bed. Never have been disappointed with any GM I have purchased and I am 99.9 percent sure that will be the case with the new 35mm GM. Plus I need a good fast 1.4 lens in my kit. I will be preordering tomorrow and late in the game but hopefully I will not have to wait too long.
Jan 29, 2021 at 06:44 PM