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Archive 2021 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)

  
 
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Hodie wrote:
IMO, the 55 is the least special out of that group, so yeah, I would sell that one. But, if it's a lens or focal length that is important to you, then perhaps not. I wouldn't sell the 135 GM because it will be harder to re-attain if you ever decide you want it back, though, I see used prices of it anywhere from 1500-1600 these days. Still, that's a chunk of change.


That is in the eye of the beholder. My wife uses the 35/1.2 Art and 55/1.8 most of the time. It has a great rendering, is light, fast focussing, as well as sharp. Many of our images chosen for the German Wedding Award (we are already finalist in 3 categories) were done with the 55 (in my opinion, all those lenses are great and it is more important to improve skill than buy new lenses. But for me at least it is part of the fun ...).




Jan 25, 2021 at 12:22 PM
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Holger wrote:
That is in the eye of the beholder. My wife uses the 35/1.2 Art and 55/1.8 most of the time. It has a great rendering, is light, fast focussing, as well as sharp. Many of our images chosen for the German Wedding Award (we are already finalist in 3 categories) were done with the 55 (in my opinion, all those lenses are great and it is more important to improve skill than buy new lenses. But for me at least it is part of the fun ...).



I don't disagree and hopefully I wasn't implying that one can't take great photos with that lens. I was speaking purely from a technical perspective and also a GAS perspective.



Jan 25, 2021 at 12:24 PM
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p.52 #3 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


richard.o.shaw wrote:
I really like the look of this 35GM and the image samples so far.
I will probably need to sell one of my current lenses to purchase this, but I'm not sure which one.
My current kit is 24GM, Zeiss 55, Batis 85, 135GM.
Any advice?
The 135 and 55 are probably my least used the lenses, but I do love the images they produce. I would probably end up using the 35 a lot more than the 135 though...


Without knowing what type of photography you like, it is a bit hard to give you advice on which lens to sell. I photograph outdoor portraits mostly and have the Zeiss 35mm f2.8 & 55 f1.8, Batis 85 & 135, the last 2 are used for 80% of my portrait photos and I would never sell them. I love the small and compact 35 ZA, it is a very sharp lens, however I plan on adding the 35 f1.4 for more environmental type portraits, because the 2 stops is important for this and how I shoot. And the 55mm is a great lens, I am just not interested in selling it, even though if may end up being the least used of these 4 lenses.

Had the 24GM for almost a year, but just was not using it for portraits, and for travel or landscapes I usually wanted to go wider than 24mm. So I sold the 24mm GM and bought the Sony 20mm f1.8G. Finally feel like I have the best lens spacing for me, and that means 5 primes, probably not what you wanted to hear.



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Jan 25, 2021 at 07:51 PM
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SpecFoto wrote:
Without knowing what type of photography you like, it is a bit hard to give you advice on which lens to sell. I photograph outdoor portraits mostly and have the Zeiss 35mm f2.8 & 55 f1.8, Batis 85 & 135, the last 2 are used for 80% of my portrait photos and I would never sell them. I love the small and compact 35 ZA, it is a very sharp lens, however I plan on adding the 35 f1.4 for more environmental type portraits, because the 2 stops is important for this and how I shoot. And the 55mm is
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Not what I wanted to hear haha! But makes perfect sense.
I agree, the 55 is a fantastic lens even though I don't end up using it very often. I'm glad I have it and it's great whenever I want a compact set up.
I think ideally I would sell both the 85 Batis and 135GM for the 85GM to have a single fast portrait lens. But the current 85GM's autofocus is not great and that lens might be replaced soon. If it does, then maybe a kit like 24GM, 35GM, 55, 85GM would be a nice option. Or perhaps swapping the 24GM for the Tamron 17-28. Or maybe I just need to raise some funds to add the 35GM to my kit



Jan 26, 2021 at 06:54 AM
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p.52 #5 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


a review comparing the gm to the sigma 1.2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjtCnDm6sg



Jan 27, 2021 at 02:18 PM
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p.52 #6 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


Would love to use 1.4 lenses, but I hate lens switching personally. Not a professional, so zooms work out better for me.


Jan 28, 2021 at 06:11 PM
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p.52 #7 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


Sutro wrote:
a review comparing the gm to the sigma 1.2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjtCnDm6sg


That's actually a great review. I watched it with the volume muted and just saw the comparison images.

From his comparison, FE 35/1.4 GM is a tad wider in comparison, has lower optical vignetting (less pronounced cat-eye) compared to Sigma when both are set to wide open. That means less of a swirling effect for the GM. It also has less distortion and specular highlights have no onion pattern. Rendering is surprisingly similar to me.
The Sigma's advantage is the f/1.2 aperture with a tad more blurring which is noticeable at mid and long distance.



Jan 28, 2021 at 06:25 PM
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Agreed. This is one of the most useful “reviews” I’ve seen. I’m more drawn to the GM even setting aside weight and haptics.

Fred Miranda wrote:
That's actually a great review. I watched it with the volume muted and just saw the comparison images.

From his comparison, FE 35/1.4 GM is a tad wider in comparison, has lower optical vignetting (less pronounced cat-eye) compared to Sigma when both are set to wide open. That means less of a swirling effect for the GM. It also has less distortion and specular highlights have no onion pattern. Rendering is surprisingly similar to me.
The Sigma's advantage is the f/1.2 aperture with a tad more blurring which is noticeable at mid and long distance.




Jan 28, 2021 at 07:08 PM
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That's actually a great review. I watched it with the volume muted and just saw the comparison images.

From his comparison, FE 35/1.4 GM is a tad wider in comparison, has lower optical vignetting (less pronounced cat-eye) compared to Sigma when both are set to wide open. That means less of a swirling effect for the GM. It also has less distortion and specular highlights have no onion pattern. Rendering is surprisingly similar to me.
The Sigma's advantage is the f/1.2 aperture with a tad more blurring which is noticeable at mid and long distance.


Good summary and good review. For me the Sigma was just never an option just because of the size. What I am curious about is how it will compare with my CV 35mm 1.2. I had been waffling about selling it but just can't. So the GM can't come soon enough. I think in the end I'll probably be keeping both.



Jan 28, 2021 at 08:33 PM
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That indeed is a great review and comparison, there are even raw files to download .
I see that it won't be that easy for me to part ways with the Sigma (f1.2 blur), but on the other hand the GM is visibly sharper on some of the pictures...
Anyways, I decided to keep the Bigma until I get my hands on the GM to make the decision more informed ...



Jan 28, 2021 at 09:12 PM
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p.52 #11 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


There has to be something wrong with his Bigma.

Like what the hell is going on with this one?
https://www.magicweddingphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/11a_sigma_12.jpg


Here is the GM for comparison:
https://www.magicweddingphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/11a_sony_14.jpg


I know Sony is shaper and all, but if Sigma was this bad, I would dump it the next day after receiving it.

Bokeh on Sigma is noticeably smoother.

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Jan 28, 2021 at 10:10 PM
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... I don't care about sharpness be the neon green branches of the gm pic screams at me...

It is one of the worst LoCA samples I have seen from the 35mm gm.

Edit: went to the page and those were heavily cropped. I thought it was uncropped...

you can see the sigma has less LoCA too



Jan 28, 2021 at 11:00 PM
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ramesesthe2nd wrote:

There has to be something wrong with his Bigma.

Like what the hell is going on with this one?
https://www.magicweddingphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/11a_sigma_12.jpg


Here is the GM for comparison:
https://www.magicweddingphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/11a_sony_14.jpg


I know Sony is shaper and all, but if Sigma was this bad, I would dump it the next day after receiving it.

Bokeh on Sigma is noticeably smoother.


This also struck me, but if you take a look at the raw files, I think every one is sharper on the GM.
So... it's either a bad copy of the Sigma or the GM is really that much sharper...
However, that one picture you posted indeed seems misfocused because the difference is that big.
However #2, the same can be seen in cameralabs comparison so maybe it's indeed the GM being super sharp...



Jan 29, 2021 at 04:39 AM
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... I don't care about sharpness be the neon green branches of the gm pic screams at me...

It is one of the worst LoCA samples I have seen from the 35mm gm.

Edit: went to the page and those were heavily cropped. I thought it was uncropped...

you can see the sigma has less LoCA too


Ya, it's a heavy crop but also the Sun is setting in the background which gives this peculiar glow, which I think contributes to CA impression...



Jan 29, 2021 at 04:41 AM
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p.52 #15 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


CA seems to be a problem on this lens.
Important or not import it is there clearly visible in many pictures.
This one and focus breathing.
On the other side many aspects are top level.
But still not a perfect lens as all others.



Jan 29, 2021 at 05:48 AM
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scalanc2 wrote:
CA seems to be a problem on this lens.
Important or not import it is there clearly visible in many pictures.
This one and focus breathing.
On the other side many aspects are top level.
But still not a perfect lens as all others.


There has never been a perfect lens made and there never will be. Simply because peoples perceptions, needs and wants are different.



Jan 29, 2021 at 06:06 AM
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Exactly, given the size and weight of this lens, something's gotta give. Let's be clear, CA is not a problem of this lens cause it's only apparent in these very demanding situations, unlike those old optics that will be riddled with the problem.

Nonetheless, I would love to hear what other compromises that you prefer Sony should have taken in place of the moderate CA and focus breathing.



Jan 29, 2021 at 06:29 AM
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Personally I do not care too much to handle a weight of 0.7 kg or so.
I do not understand the reason why people is so concerned about ultra light lenses.
We all manage zooms for all the day and a 35 must be super light.
WHY!!!
It is a good feature of course but not at cost of optical compromises.
At the moment I’ve seen on this lens CA, focus breathing and a so, so bokeh.
Spectacular resolution also. Possibly too much and useless for practical applications.
May be I’m wrong (for sure I am for several people) but this is an other compromise which could have been avoided just increasing a little weight/dimensions.



Jan 29, 2021 at 08:27 AM
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p.52 #19 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)


ramesesthe2nd wrote:

There has to be something wrong with his Bigma.

Like what the hell is going on with this one?
https://www.magicweddingphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/11a_sigma_12.jpg


Here is the GM for comparison:
https://www.magicweddingphotographer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/11a_sony_14.jpg


I know Sony is shaper and all, but if Sigma was this bad, I would dump it the next day after receiving it.

Bokeh on Sigma is noticeably smoother.


Looks like bokeh is affected by the use of EFCS at fast shutter speed at least. Maybe that could do something with sharpness too?



Jan 29, 2021 at 08:29 AM
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scalanc2 wrote:
Personally I do not care too much to handle a weight of 0.7 kg or so.
I do not understand the reason why people is so concerned about ultra light lenses.
We all manage zooms for all the day and a 35 must be super light.
WHY!!!


Because some of us are carrying our cameras for hours, walking with the camera hanging around the neck. A few hundred grams makes a lot of difference. Size is also important if you want to fit the camera in a small bag. Personally I often use bags that are not mainly for photography (since I also need other things in there), so the smaller camera and lens, the better.



Jan 29, 2021 at 08:32 AM
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