p.35 #1 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
Alex W wrote:
Really tempted as a compact companion to my R4 and A9 but just not sure about the viewfinder and lack of custom buttons. The ergonomics for the most part of my now gone A6600 did not bother me but the EVF did. Still temping though.
If you disliked teh A6600 EVF, you're going to hate the A7c EVF. The A6600's is 0.71x vs 0.59x on the A7c.
p.35 #4 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
knshshnk wrote:
if popup wasn't possible, at least an add-on EVF would'be been better, even the RX1r have bigger magnification
I'd have rather seen a further reduction in top plate height and a clip-on EVF than the combo we got. I did shoot a NEX-5N that way before the NEX-7 came out and it was workable, the tilting EVF was fun as well.
Could you imagine what we could have had if they'd stuffed a FF sensor into a NEX-5N/R body? I'd have happily given up IBIS for a FF E mount body that small even with the body being basically unusable on a tripod and would need a clip-on EVF & flash.
p.35 #5 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
mawz wrote:
Not really, the base body is pretty much the same size as the A7III. It's all of 3mm less wide, same depth. Top plate is very close to the same height as the A7III.
They chopped the big EVF off and stuffed a tiny one into the empty space in the corner and used low-profile dials on the top and went back to a A7II style grip.
There's some interesting engineering in there, but it doesn't seem to have resulted in any real reduction in the body size, which is largely determined by the screen size and the necessary control space to the right of the screen.
I honestly think Sony could have done a smaller body if they'd gone with a better but smaller (or more 16x9 format) LCD instead of going to a smaller EVF. They managed to find the lousy middle point between too much miniaturization and not enough.
Sony's done a better job at dropping mass than size on the A7c. Have to say they did a great job on losing weight even if the size drop is basically EVF hump removal.
p.35 #11 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
mawz wrote:
Not really, the base body is pretty much the same size as the A7III. It's all of 3mm less wide, same depth. Top plate is very close to the same height as the A7III.
They chopped the big EVF off and stuffed a tiny one into the empty space in the corner and used low-profile dials on the top and went back to a A7II style grip.
There's some interesting engineering in there, but it doesn't seem to have resulted in any real reduction in the body size, which is largely determined by the screen size and the necessary control space to the right of the screen.
I honestly think Sony could have done a smaller body if they'd gone with a better but smaller (or more 16x9 format) LCD instead of going to a smaller EVF. They managed to find the lousy middle point between too much miniaturization and not enough.
Sony's done a better job at dropping mass than size on the A7c. Have to say they did a great job on losing weight even if the size drop is basically EVF hump removal.
p.35 #13 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
kdrk888 wrote:
Man, based on most of the comments here, on dpreview and SAR, Sony got slapped around quite a bit
They might have received a warmer reception if it were priced at $1299 with these specs.
I think they stumbled on this one. Too close to the price of the a7iii, and missing several key features for a camera in that range (decent viewfinder, dual slots, joystick, custom buttons, two dials, etc).
(although given my track record trying to second-guess such things, I expect they'll sell a zillion of them.)