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Archive 2020 · In Stock: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG DN Art ($1,199)

  
 
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Justin Stone wrote:
Far be it for anyone on this forum to encourage you to acquire more gear. Especially after you’ve whittled it down so parsimoniously.



Lol

Yea I need no encouragement. I’m not shy on buying gear. Actually bought a few handguns and I’m really good. Same skills aiming and holding steady. I got that wired.



Aug 08, 2020 at 08:46 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Not a lot
CV 15
Cv 21 1.4
Sigma 24-70
Sony. 135

So some holes. This Covid situation puts a damper on things. A 35/85 would be nice


I see GM 135 is holding strong .



Aug 08, 2020 at 08:46 AM
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j4nu wrote:
I see GM 135 is holding strong .


It is. I use it a lot. Recently I’ve been shooting doctors for health care provider. Love this lens





Aug 08, 2020 at 08:51 AM
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wind30 wrote:
I watched the whole review... so Long and not a single full body shot showing how it renders bokeh at transitional areas.


That is why I like to include tight shots, mid body and full body shots when testing lenses/bokeh indeed.

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Aug 08, 2020 at 09:43 AM
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Looks like a solid revision. The first version was already excellent.
Makes me wish I shot at 85mm more often



Aug 08, 2020 at 09:55 AM
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I much prefer the bokeh of the GM when I look at specific situations like when they zoom in on the close up shots of the camera around 17:00 in this review:



but for real world usage I don't really see much of a difference, as far as I can tell. I still need to see more comparisons between this 85, the DSLR version, and the GM. I guess the questions I have now are if bokeh looks nicer than it did on the previous version because in 99% of real world scenarios I couldn't tell the difference between the HSM lens and the GM (except maybe cat eyes but even in the real world that was rare). And then how much better the AF is than the GM, especially in dark scenarios, when shooting backlit subjects, when underexposing, or stopped down, because that is my main gripe with the GM.



Aug 08, 2020 at 01:31 PM
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GabrielPhoto wrote:
That is why I like to include tight shots, mid body and full body shots when testing lenses/bokeh indeed.


I think I speak for most of us when I say we would looove to see you do an in depth comparison between the two Sigmas, the Samyang, and the GM



Aug 08, 2020 at 01:38 PM
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One of the most significant improvements I see over the GM is LoCA performance.


Aug 08, 2020 at 02:20 PM
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Teo Rey wrote:
I think I speak for most of us when I say we would looove to see you do an in depth comparison between the two Sigmas, the Samyang, and the GM


Hopefully, I will get a reply from my Sigma contact soon. I already have my model and location selected lol
Thank you!



Aug 08, 2020 at 02:52 PM
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Jared's review is out..has comparisons with the GM (used two different copies of the GM, worrying one was not a solid lens)




Aug 09, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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Thanks for posting that, although I find Jared painful to watch. TLDR; 11:00 in he starts the repeatable comparison. No surprises here: the sigma tests sharper and has more hits on eye a/f particularly wide open. He recommends the sigma.


Aug 09, 2020 at 12:09 PM
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I'm still really wondering how Sigma will turn out in real life usage...
Against GM, it's not about sharpness I think as from what I've seen and read here @f1.4 it's mostly about the character and the look the GM gives you for portraits. GM still seems to have slightly better bokeh balls and softer background...
Against SY, again I think while sharpness on the Samyang is very high, it's also more about the look it gives you when shooting people. Well, the color cast is a downside for the Samyang.
AF-wise, it seems the new Sigma wins against both GM and SY.
For non-portrait usage, Sigma also seems to be on top with better aberration control, but stopped down I'm not sure if the difference is big enough to matter...



Aug 09, 2020 at 12:52 PM
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But I feel the distortion in the sigma is too high. The face of the woman in the test by Jared is too enlarged, the difference is pretty obvious. Maybe in other kind of photos, a bit of pincushion distorsion is nice as it makes people slimmer, but in other cases...

Hilarious that Jared is just focusing in sharpness at 300% in one specific area of the picture and when he shoots a full body shot outdoors to check rendering, it is just next to the wall. Is he really a photographer? Really anyone here could be making YouTube reviews better than most of what we have, that are just video commercials really...



Aug 09, 2020 at 01:36 PM
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numbertwo wrote:
But I feel the distortion in the sigma is too high. The face of the woman in the test by Jared is too enlarged, the difference is pretty obvious. Maybe in other kind of photos, a bit of pincushion distorsion is nice as it makes people slimmer, but in other cases...

Hilarious that Jared is just focusing in sharpness at 300% in one specific area of the picture and when he shoots a full body shot outdoors to check rendering, it is just next to the wall. Is he really a photographer? Really anyone here could be making YouTube reviews better
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Could you point to a frame in the video? Pincushion distortion wouldn't make the face larger, it'd make it smaller.



Aug 09, 2020 at 01:45 PM
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MAubrey wrote:
Could you point to a frame in the video? Pincushion distortion wouldn't make the face larger, it'd make it smaller.


Not if the face is near the edge in portrait orientation, right? Check the minute 12, the face in the sigma picture is elongated.



Aug 09, 2020 at 01:56 PM
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I may buy it just to get a good test in. Why I ignore these reviews


Aug 09, 2020 at 02:01 PM
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numbertwo wrote:
But I feel the distortion in the sigma is too high. The face of the woman in the test by Jared is too enlarged, the difference is pretty obvious. Maybe in other kind of photos, a bit of pincushion distorsion is nice as it makes people slimmer, but in other cases...

Hilarious that Jared is just focusing in sharpness at 300% in one specific area of the picture and when he shoots a full body shot outdoors to check rendering, it is just next to the wall. Is he really a photographer? Really anyone here could be making YouTube reviews better
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Different focal lengths (nominally 85mm but in reality the sigma is narrower -this has been reported by several reviewers, who regonised the old 85 Art to be wider than the others) and a different body position make a difference.

However, we are waiting for experts like you become a thorough tester ;-)



Aug 09, 2020 at 02:07 PM
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numbertwo wrote:
Not if the face is near the edge in portrait orientation, right? Check the minute 12, the face in the sigma picture is elongated.

Fair. But at 12:00 all I see is a model with her head slightly up in one and slightly down in the other.

You must have a better eye for detail than I.



Aug 09, 2020 at 02:08 PM
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numbertwo wrote:
Not if the face is near the edge in portrait orientation, right? Check the minute 12, the face in the sigma picture is elongated.


It's hard to tell because the angle of the head is different, and the hair is closer in on the face in the Sigma image, casting a shadow on part of the face, and making the face seem narrower.

But if pincushion distortion is too high, won't the standard lens profile fix it?



Aug 09, 2020 at 03:42 PM
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Note to GabrielPhoto from Teo Rey:

"I think I speak for most of us when I say we would looove to see you do an in depth comparison between the two Sigmas, the Samyang, and the GM "


Including also any "portrait" lenses you might have in the 104-106mm range...



Aug 09, 2020 at 04:21 PM
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