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Archive 2020 · In Stock: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG DN Art ($1,199)

  
 
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So many FE 85/1.4 GM lenses for sale on the Buy and Sell board...


Aug 07, 2020 at 06:51 PM
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Sutro wrote:
For comparing this lens to the GM specifically I found this review to be quite helpful, especially after translating the subtitles




Thanks a lot. Finally a reviewer who post a full body portraits against a tree background. I understand Chinese so it is perfect.

The sigma looks very very good at rendering even with the very tough full body shot.

It just convince me to place a pre order. I have this theory that the initial lens Sigma sent out are cherry picked So I try to get one of those. Kind of make sense right? If I am sigma, the lens I send out in the first week are always those that get reviewed.

My sigma 35mm f1.2 which I got at launch day is very good. My sigma 14-24mm is not so good but I got that the 14-24mm in the later batches...



Aug 07, 2020 at 07:25 PM
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Pre-ordered with Adorama.

Hoping to consolidate the Sony 85 f/1.8 and the Samyang 85 f/1.4 Once I put it through its paces, is there really any reason to keep the Sony around?



Aug 07, 2020 at 08:44 PM
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Dustin Abbott has an interesting review. I think I might have to add it to my bag. Nice rendering.




Aug 07, 2020 at 09:26 PM
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magiclight wrote:
Dustin Abbott has an interesting review. I think I might have to add it to my bag. Nice rendering.


I watched the whole review... so Long and not a single full body shot showing how it renders bokeh at transitional areas.
I really hope reviewers when testing bokeh don’t just shoot something closeup and blow the background into oblivion and conclude it has good bokeh.
It is so difficult to look for a good review which looks at bokeh in detail. Example, so many reviews of the sigma 40mm art says it’s bokeh it’s good... but it performs badly in the transitional areas.



Aug 07, 2020 at 10:30 PM
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I too have looked for that medium distance bokeh and transitional zone blur in samples and haven’t seen many or any that I could judge definitely.

wind30 wrote:
I watched the whole review... so Long and not a single full body shot showing how it renders bokeh at transitional areas.
I really hope reviewers when testing bokeh don’t just shoot something closeup and blow the background into oblivion and conclude it has good bokeh.
It is so difficult to look for a good review which looks at bokeh in detail. Example, so many reviews of the sigma 40mm art says it’s bokeh it’s good... but it performs badly in the transitional areas.




Aug 07, 2020 at 10:40 PM
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wind30 wrote:
I watched the whole review... so Long and not a single full body shot showing how it renders bokeh at transitional areas.
I really hope reviewers when testing bokeh don’t just shoot something closeup and blow the background into oblivion and conclude it has good bokeh.
It is so difficult to look for a good review which looks at bokeh in detail. Example, so many reviews of the sigma 40mm art says it’s bokeh it’s good... but it performs badly in the transitional areas.



So I’ve also been looking for uses of the lens that are more than backlit, tight, bust-level shots and it’s surprisingly difficult to find. But this guy here uses it for video o the model and approaches from a distance and the image has a very interesting look. She’s certainly “popping” against the very smooth background.





Aug 07, 2020 at 10:46 PM
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wind30 wrote:
I watched the whole review... so Long and not a single full body shot showing how it renders bokeh at transitional areas.
I really hope reviewers when testing bokeh don’t just shoot something closeup and blow the background into oblivion and conclude it has good bokeh.
It is so difficult to look for a good review which looks at bokeh in detail. Example, so many reviews of the sigma 40mm art says it’s bokeh it’s good... but it performs badly in the transitional areas.


Lol every reviewer does that and says the bokeh is great. Then people on forums start shooting them in real world use cases find all sorts of squirelly bokeh. I.e. FE 35 1.8.



Aug 07, 2020 at 11:06 PM
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Mystik wrote:
Lol every reviewer does that and says the bokeh is great. Then it gets testy here and people find all sorts of squirelly bokeh in real world conditions. I.e. FE 35 1.8.


To be fair, bokeh was never great for the 35/1.8. Only Chad said that.



Aug 07, 2020 at 11:08 PM
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Well I never said the 35 1.8 has great bokeh. Actually far from it. Typical 1.8 lens I have said this many times . Sharp as hell with fast focusing but look is modern day with regard. to bokeh and look of the lens. You can throw in the 35,55,85 all 1.8 glass as they follow that same pattern. I’ve always disliked the 55mm. My problem was the 85 GM AF was horrid. It almost cost me a huge client in the studio. I had to buy the Sony 85 1.8 for the speed. This maybe could be the answer . Good look with some AFspeed



Aug 07, 2020 at 11:28 PM
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Yeah, I think I might order it just cause it looks aesthetically pleasing (great optics aside).


Aug 07, 2020 at 11:31 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Well I never said the 35 1.8 has great bokeh. Actually far from it. Typical 1.8 lens I have said this many times . Sharp as hell with fast focusing but look is modern day with regard. to bokeh and look of the lens. You can throw in the 35,55,85 all 1.8 glass as they follow that same pattern. I’ve always disliked the 55mm. My problem was the 85 GM AF was horrid. It almost cost me a huge client in the studio. I had to buy the Sony 85 1.8 for the speed. This maybe could be the answer
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Did u look at the Sony 85mm f1.8 bokeh in detail? I have that lens but I never took a detailed look at it. I don’t see anything bad with it’s bokeh through normal usage.
Maybe it’s the dof of 85mm vs 35/40mm that makes transitional bokeh stand out more on the 35mm? I saw bokeh I did not like on the sigma 40mm soon after using it.
But I am much more forgiving on a cheap, Light lens like the 85mm f1.8 vs a bazooka like the sigma 40mm.



Aug 07, 2020 at 11:39 PM
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Worth trying for sure. I’m probably not buying anymore gear.


Aug 07, 2020 at 11:41 PM
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With bokeh, and I've noticed Abbott with this, many reviewers think blur is the measure - more blur equals better bokeh.


Aug 07, 2020 at 11:43 PM
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wind30 wrote:
Did u look at the Sony 85mm f1.8 bokeh in detail? I have that lens but I never took a detailed look at it. I don’t see anything bad with it’s bokeh through normal usage.
Maybe it’s the dof of 85mm vs 35/40mm that makes transitional bokeh stand out more on the 35mm? I saw bokeh I did not like on the sigma 40mm soon after using it.
But I am much more forgiving on a cheap, Light lens like the 85mm f1.8 vs a bazooka like the sigma 40mm.


I’ve owned it several times. I’m not forgiving at all I have tested hundreds of lenses in every brand. I’m a working Pro. Been doing this for decades.

35 1.8 and Batis 85 test. I have tons of tests on the forum. Do a search

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1616382/0

Sony
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1484863/0

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Aug 07, 2020 at 11:48 PM
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philip_pj wrote:
With bokeh, and I've noticed Abbott with this, many reviewers think blur is the measure - more blur equals better bokeh.


The Sigma 45/2.8 is a great example of this misconception.



Aug 07, 2020 at 11:55 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I’ve owned it several times. I’m not forgiving at all I have tested hundreds of lenses in every brand. I’m a working Pro. Been doing this for decades.

35 1.8 and Batis 85 test. I have tons of tests on the forum. Do a search

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1616382/0

Sony
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1484863/0


Thanks for the link. Your impressions is pretty similar to mine for the Sony 85mm f1.8.
I am thinking the sigma buys me f1.4 and lower LoCA over the Sony 85mm f1.8.



Aug 08, 2020 at 12:12 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Worth trying for sure. I’m probably not buying anymore gear.


What's your current gear Guy?



Aug 08, 2020 at 12:20 AM
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Not a lot
CV 15
Cv 21 1.4
Sigma 24-70
Sony. 135

So some holes. This Covid situation puts a damper on things. A 35/85 would be nice



Aug 08, 2020 at 07:29 AM
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Far be it for anyone on this forum to encourage you to acquire more gear. Especially after you’ve whittled it down so parsimoniously.

GMPhotography wrote:
Not a lot
CV 15
Cv 21 1.4
Sigma 24-70
Sony. 135

So some holes. This Covid situation puts a damper on things. A 35/85 would be nice




Aug 08, 2020 at 08:34 AM
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