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In all seriousness though, that football review was pretty bad, not because of the camera, but because of the guy behind the camera that really had no idea how to use a modern MILC AF system. He obviously hasn't shot sports since the early 1DX days and it just is a total different way of shooting if you are going to rely on Auto modes.

He should have been doing a number of things differently...didn't even look like he was moving the Zone mode along with the player (was he just leaving it pointed in one direction and praying?).

But it also should be noted that that type of football shooting is probably a lot harder on the AF system with other players around, hands moving in front of the face etc compared to what I do shooting a bird against clean background.



Aug 06, 2020 at 09:18 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
Well there is some user skill involved with tracking BIF also....just saying.....


I have always said. You can mess around with all the camera settings but out of the box good technique and appropriate shutter speeds will get you much further.



Aug 06, 2020 at 09:27 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
In all seriousness though, that football review was pretty bad, not because of the camera, but because of the guy behind the camera that really had no idea how to use a modern MILC AF system. He obviously hasn't shot sports since the early 1DX days and it just is a total different way of shooting if you are going to rely on Auto modes.

He should have been doing a number of things differently...didn't even look like he was moving the Zone mode along with the player (was he just leaving it pointed in one direction and praying?).

But it
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I think he should have taken that 400 off the mono pod and gone bare hand and single point right between the players eyes.. I mean how long does a football play last for anyways maybe a minute, someone fumbles the ball or gets sacked... We are not talking a kestrel with a 50 km/h tail wind flying through the branches...




Aug 06, 2020 at 09:39 PM
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Zenon Char wrote:
I have always said. You can mess around with all the camera settings but out of the box good technique and appropriate shutter speeds will get you much further.


I got that from what Rudy says about Case 1 in the first minute of this video. This has always stuck with me. When new owners got hung up on the Case numbers I'd show it and say you don't need to master the Case numbers in the first weekend.





Aug 07, 2020 at 08:34 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
In all seriousness though, that football review was pretty bad, not because of the camera, but because of the guy behind the camera that really had no idea how to use a modern MILC AF system. He obviously hasn't shot sports since the early 1DX days and it just is a total different way of shooting if you are going to rely on Auto modes.

He should have been doing a number of things differently...didn't even look like he was moving the Zone mode along with the player (was he just leaving it pointed in one direction and praying?).

But it
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I'm far from an expert on these matters, but I got the impression that he was fighting the AF system rather than working with it. I'm sure it was unintentional, but I think I will find another review to go by when it comes down to an evaluation of the R5 for sports action.



Aug 07, 2020 at 08:49 AM
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In the week I have had my R5 I have become quite fond of the camera and believe it will be a great tool for my uses as a wildlife and landscape camera. Right now, I think it is possible it will be the best ever, but more time is needed if for no other reason than to get the camera sorted out to best fit my needs.

But one thing I am certain of, it has the best mechanical shutter sound of any camera I have ever used or been reasonably familiar with. That includes Leicas, Leicaflexes, Canon FD, Canon EF, both film and digital versions, Olympus m4/3, and work familiarity with Nikon and Minolta cameras.

Twelve FPS with mechanical shutter on the R5 is pure ear candy for this old photographer.



Aug 07, 2020 at 12:29 PM
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Please excuse this if it has been mentioned before. I haven't had time to look through the thirty some pages for these reviews. Thank you Arbitrage for including that picture with the white brackets that indicates where the image boundaries are for those of us with first generation IS lenses. I am thinking that if I measured correctly and my math is close, that one loses about twenty seven percent of the image, so with the R5 one would have about 33 megs out of the 45 for the R5, and 14.6 megs for the R6 based on the 500 F4 example.


Aug 07, 2020 at 12:38 PM
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If you are referring to the white lines in the viewfinder when some EF lenses are attached, those lines are indicating the working focus points with that particular lens. One still has the full 36x24 mm pixel count available to actually make a photograph.


Aug 07, 2020 at 12:49 PM
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Thanks Steve!


Aug 07, 2020 at 02:36 PM
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Canon R5 JPEGs hands down the best....




Aug 07, 2020 at 05:05 PM
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Don't know if this counts for this thread but they did make one intriguing observation that they were only seeing between 3-8FPS in reality in MS (this time they used native RF glass) and up to 18 (but not 20) in ES.

I have a feeling these clowns leave their cameras on Focus Priority in order to get these FPS results which IMO is stupid for wildlife photography...but what do I know?? I should probably take some pointers at least if I'm after BIF against blown out sky

Yet so much wrong in this video...I cringed at a lot of things but I'm going to share just for the comedy...try not to smack your forehead too hard while watching....you've been warned....




Aug 08, 2020 at 07:14 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
Don't know if this counts for this thread but they did make one intriguing observation that they were only seeing between 3-8FPS in reality in MS (this time they used native RF glass) and up to 18 (but not 20) in ES.

I have a feeling these clowns leave their cameras on Focus Priority in order to get these FPS results which IMO is stupid for wildlife photography...but what do I know?? I should probably take some pointers at least if I'm after BIF against blown out sky

Yet so much wrong in this video...I cringed at a lot of things but
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Geoff, you're being kinda harsh on Chelsea...



Aug 08, 2020 at 08:22 PM
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Pius Sullivan wrote:
Geoff, you're being kinda harsh on Chelsea...


I concur and support it.



Aug 08, 2020 at 08:30 PM
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This fellow translated this. I'm finding it a little hard to understand. They are claiming 16ms but then 10ms for HD. What is the readout speed when not shooting video? I guess it is 16ms?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64240920

Those tests someone did at DPreview came up with 17ms.



Aug 09, 2020 at 08:26 PM
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Steve Irwin's son ...




Aug 09, 2020 at 08:27 PM
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Gordon Laing’s R6 PHOTOGRAPHY Review





Aug 10, 2020 at 04:12 PM
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mdvaden wrote:
Steve Irwin's son ...



thx.

I went to the Crocoseum at Australia Zoo when I just got the R for a trip down under. The fps and AF tracking was terrible with BIF. Did fine with the crocs though. R5 is a totally different beast of a camera. Can't wait for another safari after this pandemic is over.



Aug 10, 2020 at 07:13 PM
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Aug 10, 2020 at 07:29 PM
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That guy's ship has really put it's sails up. He's miles ahead on this voyage.




Aug 10, 2020 at 08:22 PM
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Has anyone seen an A9/A9ii comparison yet? I'd love to see how the AF truly stacks up. The R5's animal eye-AF seems better implemented but the specs point to the A9 being the better camera for tracking (partially for the better electronic shutter performance and lack of rolling shutter distortion)


Aug 10, 2020 at 10:22 PM
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