p.18 #1 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
therealthings wrote:
With a 50% hit rate i doubt it is better. That's why i want to test it myself because like i said before, the a7rIV is not that bad at all even with adapted lenses.
Well, I guess if he says the R5/6 is better than Sony then that would mean his hit rate is even worse than 50% shooting with Sony. Would it not?
p.18 #2 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
I just saw the video from cinema5d. the documentary was really good. but it kinda sucks what he said at the end, what he experienced using the r6.. well it is really meant for photographers not a hybrid camera.. just my opinion..
p.18 #3 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
therealthings wrote:
I'm not sure Geoff would agree with you on this capturing his swallows in flight
Maybe I did not explain my self right
If I am shooting eratic bird and the R5 give me 50%success in tracking the eye while the remaining 50% the R5 still lock to other parts of the bird that is more than great. Actualy It is unmached by another camera.
But if Tony means by the 50% success rate for slow moving bird not in flight, just turning the head and body back and forth, then the 50% success rate is not acceptable at all.
And the fact that Tony is not a BIF or wild life photographers suggest that he meant the second case which I find very negative against the R5.
But I would not give lots of score to his review untill I hear from many others.
p.18 #4 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
NissanPatrol wrote:
Maybe I did not explain my self right
If I am shooting eratic bird and the R5 give me 50%success in tracking the eye while the remaining 50% the R5 still lock to other parts of the bird that is more than great. Actualy It is unmached by another camera.
But if Tony means by the 50% success rate for slow moving bird not in flight, just turning the head and body back and forth, then the 50% success rate is not acceptable at all.
And the fact that Tony is not a BIF or wild life photographers suggest that he meant the second case which I find very negative against the R5.
But I would not give lots of score to his review untill I hear from many others. ...Show more →
p.18 #6 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
keema wrote:
I just saw the video from cinema5d. the documentary was really good. but it kinda sucks what he said at the end, what he experienced using the r6.. well it is really meant for photographers not a hybrid camera.. just my opinion..
It is still a hybrid camera, but not a 4k primarily hybrid camera.
I was a Sony shooter for 2 years before coming back to Canon, and I have to say, I find it pretty sad that Canon was not able to get the R6 to run for a reasonable amount of time while downsampling 5.1k video to 4k. Whether it is intentionally designed to be thermally crippled, or their processor is just already outdated at launch (which doesn’t seem to be the case) it is quite sad that it can’t match the A7III, which can shoot 4k downsampled from 6k for over an hour, 2 years later.
The Northrup analysis showing equal indoor and outdoor times seems to indicate that the camera is extremely insulated, and there is very little way to get heat out of the camera. This is likely due to not putting thermal pads between the processor and the body.
This isn’t really a disappointment to me in terms of whether it will affect me, but it is a disappointment in terms of wanting Canon to make a camera that is better in every way than a 2 year old camera, which matters in terms of market share and making the system more relevant.
p.18 #7 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
WarrenL wrote:
Cinema5D offers independent review and testing of video gear. They list all new equipment as it is announced, and do in depth reviews. I would take the overheating assesmnet very seriously. According to Canon, the R6 will only do 30 minutes before overheating in 4K30 or 4K24. This is very disappointing.
At least the R5 has unlimited video for these frame rates...
I wasn't aware of that as I don't shoot video. Thanks for the update.
p.18 #9 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
Jesse Evans wrote:
Tony is a BIF and wildlife photographer.
Well if you call shooting Ospreys directly overhead against grey sky then yeah, he is accomplished at that
p.18 #10 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
keema wrote:
I just saw the video from cinema5d. the documentary was really good. but it kinda sucks what he said at the end, what he experienced using the r6.. well it is really meant for photographers not a hybrid camera.. just my opinion..
p.18 #11 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
lighthound wrote:
Well, I guess if he says the R5/6 is better than Sony then that would mean his hit rate is even worse than 50% shooting with Sony. Would it not?
Let’s all wait for someone who actually can produce a pleasing wildlife image tells us how good it is. I’m thinking Rob or yourself would be a good place to start
If Tony can only get 50% tack sharp on the eye and that is better than his Sony results then that only brings me to one conclusion...he doesn’t know what he is doing
p.18 #13 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
WarrenL wrote:
Cinema5D offers independent review and testing of video gear. They list all new equipment as it is announced, and do in depth reviews. I would take the overheating assesmnet very seriously. According to Canon, the R6 will only do 30 minutes before overheating in 4K30 or 4K24. This is very disappointing.
At least the R5 has unlimited video for these frame rates...
You should make sure your facts are correct before making such a definitive assertion.
From the EOS R6 Specifications page on Canon website
p.18 #14 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
Jesse Evans wrote:
It is still a hybrid camera, but not a 4k primarily hybrid camera.
I was a Sony shooter for 2 years before coming back to Canon, and I have to say, I find it pretty sad that Canon was not able to get the R6 to run for a reasonable amount of time while downsampling 5.1k video to 4k. Whether it is intentionally designed to be thermally crippled, or their processor is just already outdated at launch (which doesn’t seem to be the case) it is quite sad that it can’t match the A7III, which can shoot 4k downsampled from 6k for over an hour, 2 years later. ...Show more →
You are right, it still a hybrid camera. It is just sad that canon still followed what sony did on their earlier mirrorless camera's. only difference is canon said the limitations at launch not denying it and admitting it later on as what sony did..
so i guess, it will be the same thing on the future, they will release a body that can record unlimited..
p.18 #15 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
Jesse Evans wrote:
It is still a hybrid camera, but not a 4k primarily hybrid camera.
I was a Sony shooter for 2 years before coming back to Canon, and I have to say, I find it pretty sad that Canon was not able to get the R6 to run for a reasonable amount of time while downsampling 5.1k video to 4k. Whether it is intentionally designed to be thermally crippled, or their processor is just already outdated at launch (which doesn’t seem to be the case) it is quite sad that it can’t match the A7III, which can shoot 4k downsampled from 6k for over an hour, 2 years later. ...Show more →
You are right, it still a hybrid camera. It is just sad that canon still followed what sony did on their earlier mirrorless camera's. only difference is canon said the limitations at launch not denying it and admitting it later on as what sony did..
so i guess, it will be the same thing on the future, they will release a body that can record unlimited..
p.18 #16 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
arbitrage wrote:
Well if you call shooting Ospreys directly overhead against grey sky then yeah, he is accomplished at that
I didn't make any qualitative assessment of his photos ;-P However, despite my qualms with the Northrups recent clickbait messaging, they are pretty accomplished photographers, and I would be happy to have many of the wildlife images they have in their portfolio https://www.northrupphotography.com/
I believe that Tony was saying his experience was limited because they have not had the camera for very long.
p.18 #17 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
keema wrote:
You are right, it still a hybrid camera. It is just sad that canon still followed what sony did on their earlier mirrorless camera's. only difference is canon said the limitations at launch not denying it and admitting it later on as what sony did..
so i guess, it will be the same thing on the future, they will release a body that can record unlimited..
Well, that's not the only difference. The R5 and R6 are coming years later. Now, don't get me wrong, I have the R5 preordered, for me the camera is perfect, but I don't think that should prevent me from criticizing Canon, because I believe that they should have been able to do better in their 4k oversampled modes than they did.
To clarify, it seems very obvious based on the testing that Northrup did, and the experiences described by cinema5d that Canon have left air gaps inside of the camera that insulate the internal components from the outside world. This is good if sunlight is directly shining on your camera, but it is bad if you are attempting to cool the camera externally, and means the camera is more likely to overheat in many more scenarios than it otherwise would have.
p.18 #18 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
Jesse Evans wrote:
I didn't make any qualitative assessment of his photos ;-P However, despite my qualms with the Northrups recent clickbait messaging, they are pretty accomplished photographers, and I would be happy to have many of the wildlife images they have in their portfolio https://www.northrupphotography.com/
I believe that Tony was saying his experience was limited because they have not had the camera for very long.
Yeah, I was half joking also but they so often shoot those overhead terribly lit Osprey shots in there wildlife vids.
I agree that what Tony meant was that he hadn’t had much experience with the R5 for wildlife, not wildlife in general.
I wonder if camera overheats while recording a video, is it still possible to take photographs?
I saw somewhere but can’t recall where that it won’t let you shoot photos when in heat warning mode. But I assume you could be back to shooting stills much sooner than video.
p.18 #20 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs
keema wrote:
I just saw the video from cinema5d. the documentary was really good. but it kinda sucks what he said at the end, what he experienced using the r6.. well it is really meant for photographers not a hybrid camera.. just my opinion..
I saw it, too. And I am sorry. I myself would never try to use a tool which I do not know and I never tested before to produce anything. And for sure not for a client.
And of course one always should have a working backup available (tools can break).
That the camera did not work like he expected is his fault. Not Canons. Nor a failure of the R6.
I do not understand how he could do this.
It is his responsibility to be informed about the equipment he is using. There are no limitations when filming in full HD/30fps, as far I remember (I am not a film maker). All higher resolutions/framerates have runtime restrictions to save the camera (his investment) the R6. This is the same with R5 (8K/4K120 etc.). Those video specs are gimmicks for hobby videographers to play around and and experiment with.
A film maker should know that professional equipment that runs 12 hours a day 7 days a week is priced ten times (and even more) higher than an EOS R5/R6 body.
