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p.17 #1 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs


arbitrage wrote:
And lets not forget the horrible 7D2 and the amazing 1DX...they suffered from this problem also.....

...okay...I'll stop now


Too funny!



Jul 23, 2020 at 06:26 PM
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p.17 #2 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs


She likes the EVF, says it looks pretty organic like an OVF. That is very good to hear!


Jul 23, 2020 at 08:09 PM
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TeamSpeed wrote:
So it appears that this won't be a vloggers camera at the higher video modes, based on how long it took to cool down the camera just to do more. Two hours and the camera still had reduced recording capacity.

So this would be good for small clips through an event maybe while being a primary stills camera, which is fine with me.


Not sure who vlogs at 8k all the time (none) or need 4kHQ (you better have a pretty face with no blemishes). 4k 30p is unlimited by heat and it's a good bitrate 4k.



Jul 23, 2020 at 09:47 PM
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Tony stated that he shoots at 4khq, in his video I believe because it gives a more fluid real life look. I am sure he isn't alone. So there will be folks that were initially excited by the two cameras, but have decided against them. More for me!

One more thing, drones are shooting in 4khq, and are very popular and are some of vloggers favorite toys. It is obviously pretty important to a segment of the media-related customer base.



Jul 23, 2020 at 10:17 PM
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p.17 #5 · Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs


One more. From the link. About ⅔ of the way down.

Above: Ok, now onto the full-frame sensor, confirmed to have 45 Megapixels, a resolution chosen to allow 8k video capture in the DCi shape without any cropping, and easy scaling down to 4k and 1080p. In photo terms, it may be numerically lower than the 50 Megapixel 5DS and 5DSr, but Canon explained to me the use of a new low pass filter actually allows the R5 to out-resolve those models, even the 5DSr with its filter-cancelling path.

https://www.cameralabs.com/canon-eos-r5-review/



Jul 23, 2020 at 10:50 PM
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TeamSpeed wrote:
Tony stated that he shoots at 4khq, in his video I believe because it gives a more fluid real life look. I am sure he isn't alone. So there will be folks that were initially excited by the two cameras, but have decided against them. More for me!

One more thing, drones are shooting in 4khq, and are very popular and are some of vloggers favorite toys. It is obviously pretty important to a segment of the media-related customer base.


What? They have uploaded all of their videos recently in 1080p from the EOS RP... Doesn't really make sense.



Jul 23, 2020 at 11:06 PM
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The z7 pictures look more contrasty

https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/07/23/canon-eos-r5-first-shots-lab-sample-images-from-canons-high-end-full-frame



Jul 24, 2020 at 05:55 AM
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This was shared in the Lag thread
I've been watching through at 1.5x speed with auto English sub-titles to try and get the gist of what he is testing. I wish I could understand Japanese as this guy seems pretty funny...watch him try to do 1s and 2s handheld IBIS with the 28-70....
Lots of good things in this one like showing 12FPS has no shutter blackout because it is running a slideshow that doesn't look too bad.
Also shows pretty slow card writing to SD card (he tests from cheap to fastest) but excellent CFe writing.
I've got a lot more to get through...not sure what the rest will bring....




Jul 24, 2020 at 06:19 AM
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Tony overall was very positive on the R5...said the AF was better than the Sony which is quite a compliment.


Tony mentioned the following.

At first at 14:56 he says "in my limited experience, especially when it comes to wildlife" So we're listening to someone's experience on wildlife AF that has limited experience with the subject. Now if we were to discard that notice;

at 15:30 "It didn't nail autofocus every single time, so it would sometimes focus on the bill, focus on the body, but that happens with all of my dslr cameras too."

and then "Maybe i had a FIFTY PERCENT hitrate on that"

just 50%? I mean, really? I would expect the eye-af to to much better. But then again, looking at his disclaimer of his limited experience, we still have to find out this for ourselves. The eye-af on my a7rIV is more accurate than 50% with adapted EF mount glass, so i just can't believe the R5 is going to perform worse than that.

And on a side note, at 16:43 he mentions file transfer directly off the camera. And wired connection did not work for him, so he changed to 5ghz wifi, which he raved about. Well, i would be happy not to swap in and out cards any longer too, but then the askerisk appeared on top at the 17:08 mark where he stated that after that it failed to work. So i really really hope Canon did not create buggy code or a weak wifi module that is unstable. We'll have to test this more as well.

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Jul 24, 2020 at 06:26 AM
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50%?

I can understand that for eratic birds


But for perching birds my z7 can do better




Jul 24, 2020 at 06:42 AM
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NissanPatrol wrote:
50%?

I can understand that for eratic birds

But for perching birds my z7 can do better



I'm not sure Geoff would agree with you on this capturing his swallows in flight



Jul 24, 2020 at 06:46 AM
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NissanPatrol wrote:
The z7 pictures look more contrasty

https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/07/23/canon-eos-r5-first-shots-lab-sample-images-from-canons-high-end-full-frame


As for the wine bottles I think the R5 shows more detail and the background is smoother.



Jul 24, 2020 at 07:20 AM
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Zenon Char wrote:
As for the wine bottles I think the R5 shows more detail and the background is smoother.


True

But I am talking contrast wise, it is obvious the z7 has more contrast between the color.




Jul 24, 2020 at 07:28 AM
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therealthings wrote:
Tony mentioned the following.

At first at 14:56 he says "in my limited experience, especially when it comes to wildlife" So we're listening to someone's experience on wildlife AF that has limited experience with the subject.


I believe they take photos of birds from canoes and shore quite often around their home, often osprey. Maybe he meant limited in variety rather than hours spent. I've certainly seen images from both of them suggesting they know what they're doing here.

at 16:43 he mentions file transfer directly off the camera. And wired connection did not work for him, so he changed to 5ghz wifi, .. asterisk appeared on top at the 17:08 mark where he stated that after that it failed to work. So i really really hope Canon did not create buggy code or a weak wifi module that is unstable.

I would be more concerned about Canon's choice of the deprecated FTP protocol. It's been deprecated because it's a 1970s mess with all the cruft that implies. It's a pig to set up, and the problem could easily have been some configuration error on his NAS. Canon chose it because sports agencies use it and they had the code lying around. No brownie points from me for that.

He's an ex IT guy. I would have hoped he tested for IPv6 support at this stage. I would like to see all of CIFS (SMB), IPv6 and Bonjour supported. I would be surprised if any of them is.



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Jul 24, 2020 at 09:44 AM
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Here is R6 disapointed user (for me I do not care about videos)




Jul 24, 2020 at 09:44 AM
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NissanPatrol wrote:
Here is R6 disapointed user (for me I do not care about videos)



The numbers are random. I don't know the actual specs and didn't think accuracy was necessary for this.

So time in the field is different from time on paper? I always thought 20 minutes was 20 minutes. It appears his issues may be time management. If you know something is going to take an hour and even if it overheats 5 minutes before the spec what is the difference? You weren't going to get an hr in the first place.

You can't make everyone happy. He should get the proper equipment for his requirements.



Jul 24, 2020 at 09:53 AM
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therealthings wrote:
Tony mentioned the following.

At first at 14:56 he says "in my limited experience, especially when it comes to wildlife" So we're listening to someone's experience on wildlife AF that has limited experience with the subject. Now if we were to discard that notice;

at 15:30 "It didn't nail autofocus every single time, so it would sometimes focus on the bill, focus on the body, but that happens with all of my dslr cameras too."

and then "Maybe i had a FIFTY PERCENT hitrate on that"

just 50%? I mean, really? I would expect the eye-af to to much better. But then again, looking
...Show more

But you left out the best part where he said the R5/6 AF tracking is better than Sony's especially if you're a wildlife photog.



Jul 24, 2020 at 10:03 AM
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lighthound wrote:
But you left out the best part where he said the R5/6 AF tracking is better than Sony's especially if you're a wildlife photog.


With a 50% hit rate i doubt it is better. That's why i want to test it myself because like i said before, the a7rIV is not that bad at all even with adapted lenses.



Jul 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM
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Zenon Char wrote:
The numbers are random. I don't know the actual specs and didn't think accuracy was necessary for this.

So time in the field is different from time on paper? I always thought 20 minutes was 20 minutes. It appears his issues may be time management. If you know something is going to take an hour and even if it overheats 5 minutes before the spec what is the difference? You weren't going to get an hr in the first place.

You can't make everyone happy. He should get the proper equipment for his requirements.


Cinema5D offers independent review and testing of video gear. They list all new equipment as it is announced, and do in depth reviews. I would take the overheating assesmnet very seriously. According to Canon, the R6 will only do 30 minutes before overheating in 4K30 or 4K24. This is very disappointing.

At least the R5 has unlimited video for these frame rates...



Jul 24, 2020 at 10:30 AM
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lighthound wrote:
But you left out the best part where he said the R5/6 AF tracking is better than Sony's especially if you're a wildlife photog.





Jul 24, 2020 at 10:35 AM
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