Exactly the info I was looking for, if i could get a decent 28 / 40 / 75 spread of quality M lenses that adapt well and have a bit of character ill give those a go
p.15 #2 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Andyuk109 wrote:
Yep, Ive learnt a painful and probably expensive lesson around the differences in the manual focusing experience between the ZF and A7CR over the last few weeks
Which took me down the techart and adapted M route, if I cant get the hang of MF on sony, try the AF adapter and if that isnt viable, back to a ZF without having to replace lenses (again)
Then I hit the various threads around how adapting M mount glass isnt as simple as I expected and wanted to double check the latest views on good options
Thanks
Presumably there were other reasons that inspired the switch that were more highly prioritized than the manual focusing experience? If so, I'd consider how much those mean to you in the overall picture and if some inconvenience in the manual focusing experience is a worthwhile compromise.
If you're switching for access to certain FE lenses, were you aware that you can adapt FE to Nikon Z and retain AF? I don't know the full details and expect there would be some compromises, such as adapted vs. native AF performance and also the impact of sensor stack differences on image quality, but if those are not significant, it would seem that Nikon would be a more appropriate camera platform.
p.15 #3 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Andyuk109 wrote:
Yep, Ive learnt a painful and probably expensive lesson around the differences in the manual focusing experience between the ZF and A7CR over the last few weeks
Which took me down the techart and adapted M route, if I cant get the hang of MF on sony, try the AF adapter and if that isnt viable, back to a ZF without having to replace lenses (again)
Then I hit the various threads around how adapting M mount glass isnt as simple as I expected and wanted to double check the latest views on good options
Thanks
In case you had not figure this out yet, every manufacturer has some type of glass in front of the sensor silicon. Leica has the thinnest, in order to handle rangefinder glass, etc, I think it is something like 0.8mm. Nikon is second with 1.1mm. Sony is much thicker at 2.0mm (Canon is at 2.4mm). As such, cameras like the Nikon Zf handles M-mount glass better than Sony, especially at 35mm and wider.
If your goal is to enjoy M-mount glass outside the Leica rangefinders, I think the Zf if the best platform to do so - the thinner sensor glass in combination with the Nikon MF assist tech makes it far better than a Sony a7CR IMO.
PS The CV 40/1.2 in E-mount works well, even if isn't much "fun" focusing compared to Nikon's method, but it renders well with its character and all. Perhaps start there? Personally, I am thinking of going the other way, I'm a Sony shooter but I am thinking of adding a used Nikon Zf just to enjoy some MF glass on it
Absolutely, through a mix of choice and accident I found myself with a lot of Sony lenses and was adapting them to my Z8 previously
All worked but there was a nagging sense it wasn't quite optimal and with the launch of the A7Rvi it seemed like an opportune moment to switch fully
With hindsight I'd have kept the ZF, 24-120 and the Nikon MF lenses but decided to go all in and switch my travel camera to an A7CR to just have a single system
My other half also uses a Sony (albeit a crop sensor a6700) so having everything aligned to E mount made sense at the time
In terms of the compromises, it's hard to explain. I do a little bit of wildlife, macro and sport and do on an A7r Vi with a sigma 300-600, Sony 70-200 gm ii, 100-400 and 100mm macro - a pretty good gear set but somehow the satisfaction from nailing a shot with an MF lens just outweighs that experience
I rarely do anything with the images afterwards, just highly value that sense of quiet satisfaction and am trying to recreate it
Thank you, definitely a steeper learning curve than expected, i had a vague notion that adapting to E mount was the easiest option without fully understanding the technicalities
Im starting to lean towards running 2 systems as you suggest, still have the megadap E to Z adapter, all the accessories and spare batteries for the ZF and would only need to adapt my tamron 35-150 from E to Z to have my perfect travel setup
p.15 #6 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Good luck with that. There is no perfect camera/system. If there was, Leica would make a Q3/4 with fast scanning 45mp sensor and stellar 35mm fast prime, and then people would stop buying $6K Summiluxes or $10K M11's...
p.15 #7 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
@pattots
Yep, a fair observation
For me, absolute technical perfection isnt the priority, more the experience of using fast manual primes with nice rendering that are a little different to my AF lenses
p.15 #8 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Andyuk109 wrote:
@pattots
Yep, a fair observation
For me, absolute technical perfection isnt the priority, more the experience of using fast manual primes with nice rendering that are a little different to my AF lenses
The odd nice picture to keep would be a bonus
Thank you
I share that goal/part of the journey and as such I've reach the conclusion that I don't enjoy manual focusing on Sony, hence, the addition of the Nikon Zf to the fun of it (adding a Leica 35'lux for it. A sane person would have settled for a Voigtlander...)
p.15 #10 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
My only vm lenses left (there where many) are the 1.7/35 & 1.5/75
Never used them on a leica but when bought no emount versions availible....
They are as good as described follow members above 🙏
Both have a IQ signature I like and not seen/found in other lenses with this FL
p.15 #11 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Yep, those seem to get decent reviews / feedback
I had the 75 f1.5 on Nikon and liked it so feels like a good place to start or the thypoch option recommended previously
Its the 40mm f1.2 that is bugging me the most, Ive got good 35 & 50mm f1.2 AF options but they are chunky, a good, fast 40mm that adapts well would scratch this itch
