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Archive 2020Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
p.23 #1Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
I got lost on this thread but I saw some negative comments and seemed like color was the issue. My interest since I have the 14-24 which I really don’t need anything unless I want a smaller lens strictly for size and weight. So I guess the real question here is which. I’ve owned them all, what to go back too or buy
Loxia 21 I kind of swore Loxia off. Hate the ergos
I thought about the CV 21 1.4 which I really liked. Not exactly small and maybe not a big advantage given it’s a fairly big lens. The CV 21 3.5 still love it but sharper and faster would be nice. GM 24 had it but it would be 3 24mm focal lengths. Too redundant. My thoughts where 2 lenses for travel CV 50 app and a 20/21. Have to think about it more as this looks interesting too.
Loxia 21 I kind of swore Loxia off. Hate the ergos
I thought about the CV 21 1.4 which I really liked. Not exactly small and maybe not a big advantage given it’s a fairly big lens. The CV 21 3.5 still love it but sharper and faster would be nice. GM 24 had it but it would be 3 24mm focal lengths. Too redundant. My thoughts where 2 lenses for travel CV 50 app and a 20/21. Have to think about it more as this looks interesting too.
Mar 22, 2020 at 10:57 AM
p.23 #2Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Are we using this thread for 20G images?
If so, here are some from yesterday.
If not, never mind.
20200321 002b by Ron Smith, on Flickr
20200321 016b by Ron Smith, on Flickr
20200321 028b by Ron Smith, on Flickr
20200321 017b by Ron Smith, on Flickr
20200321 041a by Ron Smith, on Flickr
If so, here are some from yesterday.
If not, never mind.
20200321 002b by Ron Smith, on Flickr20200321 016b by Ron Smith, on Flickr20200321 028b by Ron Smith, on Flickr20200321 017b by Ron Smith, on Flickr20200321 041a by Ron Smith, on FlickrMar 22, 2020 at 01:21 PM
p.23 #3Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Here's a view night shots I took from Newfoundland. These are my first two attempts at astro so don't hold it against the lens. Overall i'm really pleased with it, lighter and smaller than 16-35 f4 to better complement my 24-105 for hiking trips, and now this low light capability I can play around with.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584924302215-3BISDVRHI2SHK2W8M6PS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/DSC09936.jpg?format=1000w
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Mar 22, 2020 at 06:58 PM
p.23 #4Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Pano
Mar 23, 2020 at 02:32 AM
p.23 #5Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Those night shots are really nice.
Mar 23, 2020 at 08:44 AM
p.23 #6Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ of the Batis a lot, but I don't like that it takes up so much room in my bag and I really dislike using it for manual focus, which I do a lot for a lens this wide.
I have wanted a nice small 18mm Voigtlander manual focus lens, but this may do. I think it would work well in a set with the Loxia 25, Voigtlander 40, Voigtlander 65, and a longer lens.
I have wanted a nice small 18mm Voigtlander manual focus lens, but this may do. I think it would work well in a set with the Loxia 25, Voigtlander 40, Voigtlander 65, and a longer lens.
Mar 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM
p.23 #7Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Steve Spencer wrote:
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ...Show more →
Don't forget the much higher max. magnification as well. It if wasn't for my Loxia 21 and Sigma 14-24, I would be all over this lens.
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ...Show more →
Don't forget the much higher max. magnification as well. It if wasn't for my Loxia 21 and Sigma 14-24, I would be all over this lens.
Mar 23, 2020 at 11:34 AM
p.23 #8Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Steve Spencer wrote:
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ...Show more →
It's really not a 20mm--my Tamron isn't marked except for 20, where they are not the same. Maybe the Tamron isn't that accurate, but it feels wide to me for a 20mm. I think it's more like an 18.5-19mm. It's a decent chunk wider than my Contax G 21. I posted in the other thread, but maybe I missed it. I was hoping someone would compare it against another 18mm prime or a zoom.
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ...Show more →
It's really not a 20mm--my Tamron isn't marked except for 20, where they are not the same. Maybe the Tamron isn't that accurate, but it feels wide to me for a 20mm. I think it's more like an 18.5-19mm. It's a decent chunk wider than my Contax G 21. I posted in the other thread, but maybe I missed it. I was hoping someone would compare it against another 18mm prime or a zoom.
Mar 23, 2020 at 11:34 AM
p.23 #9Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Woohoo Fogo!
You wanna avoid light sources doing astro. Go where its darkest/no light pollution from streets or buildings. Folks love the desert for such things.
nvanhiker wrote:
Here's a view night shots I took from Newfoundland. These are my first two attempts at astro so don't hold it against the lens. Overall i'm really pleased with it, lighter and smaller than 16-35 f4 to better complement my 24-105 for hiking trips, and now this low light capability I can play around with.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584924302215-3BISDVRHI2SHK2W8M6PS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/DSC09936.jpg?format=1000w
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You wanna avoid light sources doing astro. Go where its darkest/no light pollution from streets or buildings. Folks love the desert for such things.
nvanhiker wrote:
Here's a view night shots I took from Newfoundland. These are my first two attempts at astro so don't hold it against the lens. Overall i'm really pleased with it, lighter and smaller than 16-35 f4 to better complement my 24-105 for hiking trips, and now this low light capability I can play around with.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584924302215-3BISDVRHI2SHK2W8M6PS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/DSC09936.jpg?format=1000w
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584925842144-Z1Q830F27OF8B655KC1J/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kEhkXuElnYWSDHt82vrng7p7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0nQwvinDXPV4EYh2MRzm-RQtVDBUITpfXimS-6dUM9XGraGK2y7qAEstHvCd2BSkyQ/DSC09308.jpg?format=1000w
Mar 23, 2020 at 11:55 AM
p.23 #10Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
nehemiahphoto wrote:
I have wanted a nice small 18mm Voigtlander manual focus lens, but this may do. I think it would work well in a set with the Loxia 25, Voigtlander 40, Voigtlander 65, and a longer lens.It's really not a 20mm--my Tamron isn't marked except for 20, where they are not the same. Maybe the Tamron isn't that accurate, but it feels wide to me for a 20mm. I think it's more like an 18.5-19mm. It's a decent chunk wider than my Contax G 21. I posted in the other thread, but maybe I missed it. I was hoping someone would compare it against another 18mm prime or a zoom.
I don't know about the Tamron, but Zeiss lists 21.5mm as the focal length for the Contax G 21, so it makes sense that its a decent bit wider. The Sony could be as close to 20mm as 19.5mm and still be noticeably wider.
Steve Spencer wrote
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ of the Batis a lot, but I don't like that it takes up so much room in my bag and I really dislike using it for manual focus, which I do a lot for a lens this wide.I have wanted a nice small 18mm Voigtlander manual focus lens, but this may do. I think it would work well in a set with the Loxia 25, Voigtlander 40, Voigtlander 65, and a longer lens.
I don't know about the Tamron, but Zeiss lists 21.5mm as the focal length for the Contax G 21, so it makes sense that its a decent bit wider. The Sony could be as close to 20mm as 19.5mm and still be noticeably wider.
Mar 23, 2020 at 12:56 PM
p.23 #11Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
MAubrey wrote:
I have wanted a nice small 18mm Voigtlander manual focus lens, but this may do. I think it would work well in a set with the Loxia 25, Voigtlander 40, Voigtlander 65, and a longer lens.It's really not a 20mm--my Tamron isn't marked except for 20, where they are not the same. Maybe the Tamron isn't that accurate, but it feels wide to me for a 20mm. I think it's more like an 18.5-19mm. It's a decent chunk wider than my Contax G 21. I posted in the other thread, but maybe I missed it. I was hoping someone would compare it against another 18mm prime or a zoom.I don't know about the Tamron, but Zeiss lists 21.5mm as the focal length for the Contax G 21, so it makes sense that its a decent bit wider. The Sony could be as close to 20mm as 19.5mm and still be noticeably wider.
And it also has a PCX filter, so not sure if that alter things as well.
nehemiahphoto wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
As I have thought about this lens and seen how much wider it is than the 21mm lenses, I am think about it as a replacement for the Batis 18. It seems much closer to that lens with a focal length that seems to be more like 19 than 20 and an AF lens. It is just a bit heavier than the Batis, and physically smaller (about the same length but quite a bit skinnier with a smaller filter), and it is a stop and third faster, has an aperture ring, and linear manual focus. I like the IQ of the Batis a lot, but I don't like that it takes up so much room in my bag and I really dislike using it for manual focus, which I do a lot for a lens this wide.I have wanted a nice small 18mm Voigtlander manual focus lens, but this may do. I think it would work well in a set with the Loxia 25, Voigtlander 40, Voigtlander 65, and a longer lens.
And it also has a PCX filter, so not sure if that alter things as well.
Mar 23, 2020 at 01:10 PM
p.23 #12Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
KarmaKramer wrote:
Woohoo Fogo!
You wanna avoid light sources doing astro. Go where its darkest/no light pollution from streets or buildings. Folks love the desert for such things.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584924302215-3BISDVRHI2SHK2W8M6PS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/DSC09936.jpg?format=1000w
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Generally yes, particularly light pollution, but sometimes light can be good for Astro. Moonlight illuminating the foreground can be particularly helpful if that's what one is going for.
Woohoo Fogo!
You wanna avoid light sources doing astro. Go where its darkest/no light pollution from streets or buildings. Folks love the desert for such things.
nvanhiker wrote
Here's a view night shots I took from Newfoundland. These are my first two attempts at astro so don't hold it against the lens. Overall i'm really pleased with it, lighter and smaller than 16-35 f4 to better complement my 24-105 for hiking trips, and now this low light capability I can play around with.https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584924302215-3BISDVRHI2SHK2W8M6PS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQKw/DSC09936.jpg?format=1000w
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e196974f39c41335c177302/1584925842144-Z1Q830F27OF8B655KC1J/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kEhkXuElnYWSDHt82vrng7p7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0nQwvinDXPV4EYh2MRzm-RQtVDBUITpfXimS-6dUM9XGraGK2y7qAEstHvCd2BSkyQ/DSC09308.jpg?format=1000w
Generally yes, particularly light pollution, but sometimes light can be good for Astro. Moonlight illuminating the foreground can be particularly helpful if that's what one is going for.
Mar 23, 2020 at 01:38 PM
p.23 #13Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Hard to maintain social distances here in Seattle if the weather is even halfway decent.
Quick shot from the sunset with the 20G.
Quick shot from the sunset with the 20G.
Mar 26, 2020 at 12:56 AM
p.23 #14Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
20200329 116b by Ron Smith, on FlickrApr 01, 2020 at 09:05 PM
p.23 #15Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
nhsonyshooter wrote:
My 24gm couldn't do 20 but the 20 can do 24.
But the 20mm can’t do f1.4 and the 24mm can do f1.8
Apr 08, 2020 at 12:56 AM
p.23 #16Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
sye46 wrote:
But the 20mm can’t do f1.4 and the 24mm can do f1.8
Have not missed that so far thanks to the DR of these camera's
nhsonyshooter wrote
My 24gm couldn't do 20 but the 20 can do 24.Have not missed that so far thanks to the DR of these camera's
Apr 08, 2020 at 03:29 AM
p.23 #17Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
GMPhotography wrote:
I got lost on this thread but I saw some negative comments and seemed like color was the issue. My interest since I have the 14-24 which I really don’t need anything unless I want a smaller lens strictly for size and weight. So I guess the real question here is which. I’ve owned them all, what to go back too or buy
Loxia 21 I kind of swore Loxia off. Hate the ergos
I thought about the CV 21 1.4 which I really liked. Not exactly small and maybe not a big advantage given it’s a fairly big lens. The CV...Show more →
So far the 20mm paired with the Samyang 45 1.8 gives me one of the lightest, sharpest, fastest 2 lens AF kits I have ever had. Lov'n it
I got lost on this thread but I saw some negative comments and seemed like color was the issue. My interest since I have the 14-24 which I really don’t need anything unless I want a smaller lens strictly for size and weight. So I guess the real question here is which. I’ve owned them all, what to go back too or buy
Loxia 21 I kind of swore Loxia off. Hate the ergos
I thought about the CV 21 1.4 which I really liked. Not exactly small and maybe not a big advantage given it’s a fairly big lens. The CV...Show more →
So far the 20mm paired with the Samyang 45 1.8 gives me one of the lightest, sharpest, fastest 2 lens AF kits I have ever had. Lov'n it
Apr 08, 2020 at 03:33 AM
p.23 #18Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
nhsonyshooter wrote:
Loxia 21 I kind of swore Loxia off. Hate the ergos
I thought about the CV 21 1.4 which I really liked. Not exactly small and maybe not a big advantage given it’s a fairly big lens. The CV 21 3.5 still love it but sharper and faster would be nice. GM 24 had it but it would be 3 24mm focal lengths. Too redundant. My thoughts where 2 lenses for travel CV 50 app and a 20/21. Have to think about it more as this looks interesting too.So far the 20mm paired with the Samyang 45 1.8 gives me one of the lightest, sharpest, fastest 2 lens AF kits I have ever had. Lov'n it
I Have the same kit now but also bring the Sony FE 85 1.8
GMPhotography wrote
I got lost on this thread but I saw some negative comments and seemed like color was the issue. My interest since I have the 14-24 which I really don’t need anything unless I want a smaller lens strictly for size and weight. So I guess the real question here is which. I’ve owned them all, what to go back too or buyLoxia 21 I kind of swore Loxia off. Hate the ergos
I thought about the CV 21 1.4 which I really liked. Not exactly small and maybe not a big advantage given it’s a fairly big lens. The CV 21 3.5 still love it but sharper and faster would be nice. GM 24 had it but it would be 3 24mm focal lengths. Too redundant. My thoughts where 2 lenses for travel CV 50 app and a 20/21. Have to think about it more as this looks interesting too.
I Have the same kit now but also bring the Sony FE 85 1.8
Apr 08, 2020 at 05:16 AM
p.23 #19Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
20200402 036b by Ron Smith, on FlickrApr 08, 2020 at 06:01 AM
p.23 #20Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Fred - Sony 20mm or CV 21mm for microcontrast and character?
Apr 22, 2020 at 10:33 AM