But iPhones don't run Linux. iOS is built on Darwin, Apple's open-source core, which uses the XNU kernel (Mach plus BSD Unix code, much of it from FreeBSD). It's the same family as macOS, which is a certified UNIX. Android is the one built on a Linux kernel.
The licensing works differently too. The Linux kernel is GPLv2, which doesn't require changes to be submitted back to anyone. It requires that whoever distributes a modified version make the source available to the people who receive it, which is why Android phone makers publish their kernel source. The BSD code Apple builds on is under a permissive license with no such requirement, though Apple does publish Darwin and WebKit source anyway.
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Hi all, I know the new hotness right now is the 35/2 APO, but I ended up finding the elusive 40/2 "Hua" lens that was announced and then had some discussion and seemingly vanished. I was following user @ByChrisJones tip for grabbing a significant discount by combining the Shop App deal for $115 off a LLL purchase and the FREDMIRANDA discount code (works by the way, I finally bit on the 50/1.9) when i saw a listing for the 40/2 from a company called "Kamerahaus" that apparently is in NY. The lens was listed cheap at $249 with 1 in stock and I figured let me order it and see what happens. I ordered it Monday and it just arrived at my door tonight.
I have only pictures of the lens, as it arrived after it was dark so will update later once I have some samples to show. The lens has a slightly rough but otherwise well dampened focus that goes down to 0.5m with no bump/detent at 0.7 like some other lenses. The aperture ring is also slightly rough and has quiet clicks going from f2-f16.
Time will tell what the rendering actually looks like, but at least now there is some sort of confirmation that this lens is indeed real.
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Shoten Kobo managed to get some supplies and started selling these 40/2 Hua lenses (a limited quantity) in Japan from 11/12, for 49800 JPY in their online store. Their supplies have 1 year warranty and I guess they might be more carefully quality-controlled than the original China community batches.
I visited Ikebukuro Classic Camera Fair today and Shoten Kobo was one of the participating shops there with some products available to try and buy.
They had a handful of these lenses too and I tried one of the black copies and decided to buy it (at the fair they were priced at 49000 JPY).
LLL lenses are generally fairly expensive in Japan and I've never tried one before but this one has an interesting backstory and the pricing was good so I went for it.
I could pick any lens from available copies but since the one I had tried first seemed like a perfectly good copy I went for that one without looking closely at the others. The glass and coatings look perfectly clean / like new and I wouldn't have been able to tell the glass was sourced from old 1980's rangefinder cameras.
So far I'm enjoying the output from the lens based on very limited shooting, the weather is pretty bad this weekend so I'll shoot more when the weather gets better.
Juha Kannisto wrote: endergemini wroteHi all, I know the new hotness right now is the 35/2 APO, but I ended up finding the elusive 40/2 "Hua" lens that was announced and then had some discussion and seemingly vanished. I was following user @ByChrisJones tip for grabbing a significant discount by combining the Shop App deal for $115 off a LLL purchase and the FREDMIRANDA discount code (works by the way, I finally bit on the 50/1.9) when i saw a listing for the 40/2 from a company called "Kamerahaus" that apparently is in NY. The lens was listed cheap at $249 with 1 in stock and I figured let me order it and see what happens. I ordered it Monday and it just arrived at my door tonight.
I have only pictures of the lens, as it arrived after it was dark so will update later once I have some samples to show. The lens has a slightly rough but otherwise well dampened focus that goes down to 0.5m with no bump/detent at 0.7 like some other lenses. The aperture ring is also slightly rough and has quiet clicks going from f2-f16.
Time will tell what the rendering actually looks like, but at least now there is some sort of confirmation that this lens is indeed real.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55547453021_c27087beb9_b.jpgShoten Kobo managed to get some supplies and started selling these 40/2 Hua lenses (a limited quantity) in Japan from 11/12, for 49800 JPY in their online store. Their supplies have 1 year warranty and I guess they might be more carefully quality-controlled than the original China community batches.
I visited Ikebukuro Classic Camera Fair today and Shoten Kobo was one of the participating shops there with some products available to try and buy.
They had a handful of these lenses too and I tried one of the black copies and decided to buy it (at the fair they were priced at 49000 JPY).
LLL lenses are generally fairly expensive in Japan and I've never tried one before but this one has an interesting backstory and the pricing was good so I went for it.
I could pick any lens from available copies but since the one I had tried first seemed like a perfectly good copy I went for that one without looking closely at the others. The glass and coatings look perfectly clean / like new and I wouldn't have been able to tell the glass was sourced from old 1980's rangefinder cameras.
So far I'm enjoying the output from the lens based on very limited shooting, the weather is pretty bad this weekend so I'll shoot more when the weather gets better.
I actually have three of the 40/2 lens now; I purchased one more from a shop in Korea and another secondhand from another person and have been meaning to set up a tripod to see if there is any noticeable difference between all three haha.
The pricing from Shoten Kobo seems pretty good and it's a pretty cool lens so I'm glad you were able to pick one up. Wondering if you got to try any of the DK-Optic lenses they had there as well? Despite my poor experience with the Impastolite I still love its rendering and wish it worked out for me. Curious about their new Belladonna but since I am 50/50 working lenses from DK I am holding off since their pricing is on the higher side and customer support from both Shoten and DK has ultimately been very poor.
endergemini wrote: Juha Kannisto wroteendergemini wroteHi all, I know the new hotness right now is the 35/2 APO, but I ended up finding the elusive 40/2 "Hua" lens that was announced and then had some discussion and seemingly vanished. I was following user @ByChrisJones tip for grabbing a significant discount by combining the Shop App deal for $115 off a LLL purchase and the FREDMIRANDA discount code (works by the way, I finally bit on the 50/1.9) when i saw a listing for the 40/2 from a company called "Kamerahaus" that apparently is in NY. The lens was listed cheap at $249 with 1 in stock and I figured let me order it and see what happens. I ordered it Monday and it just arrived at my door tonight.
I have only pictures of the lens, as it arrived after it was dark so will update later once I have some samples to show. The lens has a slightly rough but otherwise well dampened focus that goes down to 0.5m with no bump/detent at 0.7 like some other lenses. The aperture ring is also slightly rough and has quiet clicks going from f2-f16.
Time will tell what the rendering actually looks like, but at least now there is some sort of confirmation that this lens is indeed real.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55547453021_c27087beb9_b.jpgShoten Kobo managed to get some supplies and started selling these 40/2 Hua lenses (a limited quantity) in Japan from 11/12, for 49800 JPY in their online store. Their supplies have 1 year warranty and I guess they might be more carefully quality-controlled than the original China community batches.
I visited Ikebukuro Classic Camera Fair today and Shoten Kobo was one of the participating shops there with some products available to try and buy.
They had a handful of these lenses too and I tried one of the black copies and decided to buy it (at the fair they were priced at 49000 JPY).
LLL lenses are generally fairly expensive in Japan and I've never tried one before but this one has an interesting backstory and the pricing was good so I went for it.
I could pick any lens from available copies but since the one I had tried first seemed like a perfectly good copy I went for that one without looking closely at the others. The glass and coatings look perfectly clean / like new and I wouldn't have been able to tell the glass was sourced from old 1980's rangefinder cameras.
So far I'm enjoying the output from the lens based on very limited shooting, the weather is pretty bad this weekend so I'll shoot more when the weather gets better.
https://stkb.co.jp/info/p59949/ https://stkb.co.jp/info/p59914/I actually have three of the 40/2 lens now; I purchased one more from a shop in Korea and another secondhand from another person and have been meaning to set up a tripod to see if there is any noticeable difference between all three haha.
The pricing from Shoten Kobo seems pretty good and it's a pretty cool lens so I'm glad you were able to pick one up. Wondering if you got to try any of the DK-Optic lenses they had there as well? Despite my poor experience with the Impastolite I still love its rendering and wish it worked out for me. Curious about their new Belladonna but since I am 50/50 working lenses from DK I am holding off since their pricing is on the higher side and customer support from both Shoten and DK has ultimately been very poor. ...Show more →
Thanks! Would be interesting to hear if you found any noticeable differences in IQ / rendering between your 3 copies of LLL 40/2. The idea that all copies are unique and can utilize elements from different manufacturer's old rangefinder 40/2 lenses is quite interesting. My copy seems to have good sharpness at focused area from wide open, and nice bokeh with old school character and also relatively good corner-to-corner sharpness on my Sony A7CII when stopped down a bit. I don't see any troublesome field curvature effects on bokeh rendering that could be happen with old (esp. wider angle) rangefinder lenses on Sony sensor stack either. I'm expecting to enjoy the lens and the results I can get with it as the few samples I've shot so far seem nice and promising, but I need to shoot much more in decent weather to get a good understanding.
I like this type of small and light lenses for general walk-around shooting and 40mm f2 is pretty suitable for that. I also have a whole bunch of other 40mm lenses, also including Minolta M-Rokkor 40/2 which might have some similarities with this LLL, but it's always nice to have more options. There don't seem to be many reviews for the LLL 40/2 at all. I just found this one HK blog post about it: https://chan.nds.hk/blog/?p=14748.
Shoten Kobo had a bunch of those DK Optic lenses on display at Ikebukuro Classic Camera Fair and I could have asked to try any of them at their counter, but the event hall area is not very good for lens testing at all and I'd be mostly tempted to try out something only if I was considering to buy it (mainly to see that the lens has no obvious faults that could be spotted on a quick trial over the counter). I've not been thinking of buying any of those DK Optics so far as they are mostly 200K yen or more. Since I adapt all my lenses to Sony cameras and don't even have a native M camera, there's always a bit of a concern of potential sensor stack induced field curvature issues too and I tend to stick to native E-mount optimized lenses when it comes to upper price ranges. The sample shots for the DK Optics lenses on Shoten Kobo's page look nice though.