Desmolicious wrote:
I see the bike in focus, then focus drops off so by the second bush/tree behind it on the right it is clearly OOF.
Everything behind that is way out of focus.
Where do you see the smearing?
On the bike, the tree and the part of the ground that is in focus.
gdanmitchell wrote:
Asked and answered.
Also, I clicked on it. I cannot see the smearing you are describing in this little .jpg image. Portions seem in focus and portions that aren't the plane of optimal focus naturally seem softer... but how that is related to your point is... obscure.
I've seen the "smearing" and "worms" effects in Fujifilm files. You cannot see either of those issues in images downsized to the degree in that sample. The downsizing process interpolates large numbers of pixels in order to average them into individual pixels in the downsized image, effectively averaging out those effects when they occur.
It's not downsized. I linked to the full 16 mpix image. Are you even reading half of my posts? You're missing very much of what I write, that's for sure.
Still waiting for you to show us a photograph you made that shows the smearing issue. A 100% magnification crop of your image will be useful or access via a link to the full image.
I just did that. Full image = 100% crop. Just follow the link.
Now the Fujifilm system is so awful that it is worse than smartphones?
No, but the X70 is in terms of detail. Not when it comes to color and noise. Just as I wrote, but you still don't read.
A. You do know that RAW files are unsharpened, right, and that they require sharpening? (The .jpg files in your Fujifilm camera are captured as RAW files – "RAW" refers to the actual sensor data — and then post-processed in-camera to become .jpgs, with post processing that typically includes automatic adjustments to color, dynamic range, NR, curves, and sharpening.
B. It is just plain nonsense — on objective and subjective bases — that your smartphone has better image quality potential than the Fujifilm cameras, along other stuff you included in the portion of your post I didn't quote. Such statements don't exactly improve your credibility. ...Show more →
Are you kidding me or something? You can't have read anything of what I write. Why am I even trying to have a conversation with you. It's like talking to a wall. Jesus.
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If you can't see any smearing in the photo I linked to, I was right; your standards are way lower than mine. Good to know in the future.
Where are we going with this discussion? I went all Sony years ago. Now, lots of Sony experience and little recent Fuji experience. Clearly, many love shooting with Fuji cameras and many like the output. I find it hard to believe that Fuji cameras produce poor quality files. If that were true, they would be out of business. Are there poor quality Fuji images? Yup..seen many. Are there better RAW converters for Xtrans..sure looks like that is true.
Last night I used the Flickr search to pull up Rx1Rii images and X100f images. The comparison was not kind to the little Fuji. Not sure why..but these two cameras likely appeal to different group of photographers
bwcolor wrote:
Where are we going with this discussion? I went all Sony years ago. Now, lots of Sony experience and little recent Fuji experience. Clearly, many love shooting with Fuji cameras and many like the output. I find it hard to believe that Fuji cameras produce poor quality files. If that were true, they would be out of business. Are there poor quality Fuji images? Yup..seen many. Are there better RAW converters for Xtrans..sure looks like that is true.
Last night I used the Flickr search to pull up Rx1Rii images and X100f images. The comparison was not kind to the little Fuji. Not sure why..but these two cameras likely appeal to different group of photographers ...Show more →
I'm interested in the X100V since it's the first X100 with a tilting screen, which is a must for me. I had the first X100 and liked it in many ways but sold it pretty quickly due to the many quirks.
Now, the new X100V has a X-Trans sensor. My experience with X-Trans is really, really bad, and when I saw samples from the X100V that looked similar, I of course wanted to know if the issues I have with the X70 are gonna be there also with the X100V (albeit to a lesser degree, of course). I think that's what the discussion is (or at least was) about.
But, now there are people in this thread that refuse to read my posts from start to end but still claim I'm wrong. They won't even look at the example I provided, where it should be very clear what I think is problematic with the X70 sensor. That does of course not mean the X100V sensor is also problematic, but it could very well be. I don't understand why Fuji is using X-Trans in some cameras and Bayer in some. Makes no sense at all. If one of them were superior, why not have it in all cameras?
My main camera is the Fuji GFX 50R and I would love to have an APS-C crop of that sensor in a smaller camera. So, this is not at all about the amount of pixels. It's about bad and good sensor tech in general. It's also not about RAW converters and sharpening since the X-Trans problems are visible also in JPG SOOC.
Makten wrote:
I'm interested in the X100V since it's the first X100 with a tilting screen, which is a must for me. I had the first X100 and liked it in many ways but sold it pretty quickly due to the many quirks.
Now, the new X100V has a X-Trans sensor. My experience with X-Trans is really, really bad, and when I saw samples from the X100V that looked similar, I of course wanted to know if the issues I have with the X70 are gonna be there also with the X100V (albeit to a lesser degree, of course). I think that's what the discussion is (or at least was) about.
But, now there are people in this thread that refuse to read my posts from start to end but still claim I'm wrong. They won't even look at the example I provided, where it should be very clear what I think is problematic with the X70 sensor. That does of course not mean the X100V sensor is also problematic, but it could very well be. I don't understand why Fuji is using X-Trans in some cameras and Bayer in some. Makes no sense at all. If one of them were superior, why not have it in all cameras?
My main camera is the Fuji GFX 50R and I would love to have an APS-C crop of that sensor in a smaller camera. So, this is not at all about the amount of pixels. It's about bad and good sensor tech in general. It's also not about RAW converters and sharpening since the X-Trans problems are visible also in JPG SOOC. ...Show more →
Waiting will take care of your concerns. Right now, few samples are available and all are from in camera jpg. The Leica CL might provide an alternative.
fotografur wrote:
But the million dollar question is
Black or Silver
Silver won't heat up in sunlight, leading to less sensor noise and less risk of overheating during video. Looks more retro so likely less of a target for theft. Also likely for people to act more naturally around it because they think it's a film camera.
The black is mad sexy, and I almost bought it, but pragmatism got the best of me. And of course I still love the way the silver looks too.
fotografur wrote:
But the million dollar question is
Black or Silver
From what I've seen/heard, the new silver finish is more luxe than in the past. i.e. looks fancier/more expensive.
I'm going to have to see both in the flesh so to speak before I make up my mind.
fotografur wrote:
But the million dollar question is
Black or Silver
Definitely black as long as the lenses are black. Silver lenses on a black camera though...
Seriously, to me it's down to stealth. I don't want to be seen and since I mostly wear dark clothes, black is a no-brainer.
bwcolor wrote:
Waiting will take care of your concerns. Right now, few samples are available and all are from in camera jpg. The Leica CL might provide an alternative.
Of course, but for me JPG is pretty important too. I don't always use the RAW's.
The CL is a bit too big with its interchangable lenses. And too expensive. And doesn't have a tilting screen.
does anyone recall if the X100V size wise is very similar to the X100F?
planning to buy a half-leather case for my silver X100V but also have a X100F on its way so don't really want to buy 2 cases unless I have to.
Makten wrote:
Are you kidding me or something? You can't have read anything of what I write. Why am I even trying to have a conversation with you. It's like talking to a wall. Jesus.
I'm not sure that calling me Jesus is appropriate.
Makten wrote:
Definitely black as long as the lenses are black. Silver lenses on a black camera though...
Seriously, to me it's down to stealth. I don't want to be seen and since I mostly wear dark clothes, black is a no-brainer.
Silver for me. All of my cameras are black and every X100 I’ve bought has been silver. Stealth means nothing to me, I take pictures when traveling and of my family. Not a street shooter at all, so I could care less if people know I have a camera around my neck or not.
X100v is...
1.5mm wider
same height
1.1mm thicker
0.4 oz / 9g heavier with battery and card
o.3 oz/ 9g heavier bare body
(there seems to be some kind of minor rounding error on non-metric weights)
TMaG82 wrote:
Silver for me. All of my cameras are black and every X100 I’ve bought has been silver. Stealth means nothing to me, I take pictures when traveling and of my family. Not a street shooter at all, so I could care less if people know I have a camera around my neck or not.
The silver really looks beautiful from what i've seen, but many seem more impressed with the black for some reason.
X100v is...
1.5mm wider
same height
1.1mm thicker
4/10 oz / 9g heavier with battery and card
3/10 oz/ 9g heavier bare body
(there seems to be some kind of minor rounding error on weights)...Show more →
thank you to both of you. seems like I'll just wait for a X100V case then it will also fit the X100F
marsguy wrote:
Silver won't heat up in sunlight, leading to less sensor noise and less risk of overheating during video. Looks more retro so likely less of a target for theft. Also likely for people to act more naturally around it because they think it's a film camera.
The black is mad sexy, and I almost bought it, but pragmatism got the best of me. And of course I still love the way the silver looks too.
I can't say that "heating up in sunlight" has ever been a real problem! ;-)
Maybe if you leave the camera sitting on a table in full sun for a long time on a very warm day. Maybe...
Your point about silver looking more "retro" may be at least partially true. (Way back when I had my first x-trans camera — the XE1 — a young guy walked past me in Heidelberg, DE where I was doing street photography and noted admiringly, " Cool! A Leica!" I didn't have the heart to tell him.)
On the other hand, an all black system might be less "flashy" from a distance.
Honestly, I really think it is just a matter of personal taste. Pick whichever you like best. (The closest I can come to a practical difference Is that black may show scratches, scuffs, and dings a bit more... but some people like that!) We originally had two XE1 models — one black and one silver. I never developed a real preference for one over the other. My XPro2 is black, but I can't recall why... ;-)
Desmolicious wrote:
Back on topic, I played around with the X-Pro3 some more at my local, and now the hardest part is figuring if I want this or the X100V.
I decided to avoid that decision, so I will have both! My poor X-H1 feels trampled on
One solution is to just use your 50r with the 50mm. The 50/50 combo or the X100MF which Fuji didn’t bring to market 😛
Bayer sensor, Fuji ergo and colors, better than a7rii or the rx1r2 (the gf50 is more pleasing than the 35 on the rx1r2). No leaf shutter and 2x the size but worth it
bwcolor wrote:
Where are we going with this discussion? I went all Sony years ago. Now, lots of Sony experience and little recent Fuji experience. Clearly, many love shooting with Fuji cameras and many like the output. I find it hard to believe that Fuji cameras produce poor quality files. If that were true, they would be out of business. Are there poor quality Fuji images? Yup..seen many. Are there better RAW converters for Xtrans..sure looks like that is true.
Last night I used the Flickr search to pull up Rx1Rii images and X100f images. The comparison was not kind to the little Fuji. Not sure why..but these two cameras likely appeal to different group of photographers ...Show more →
@Des.... “living in fear is not a way to live.” Got a couple of neighborhoods here in Philly where you won’t have to be afraid at all... you simply won’t live long enough to be afraid.
Silver lenses on a black camera though... 
