Confirmed new lens (I'm not as negative on the current lens as others). Other than the clear likelihood that they are going to upgrade the chip, I'm hoping they include something else that's a clear upgrade. Say Weather sealing
WR has to be there. They screwed the pooch if they didn't add it. A lot of people in the online communities I visit were clamoring for it, but I'm under no impression that these people make up any semblance of a majority of X100 users or potential users. Still, Fuji can position it as the "anywhere, any time, any conditions" camera. It's already the "anywhere, anytime" camera. They just need to give some assurance that a little rain or splash from a wave isn't going to ruin your camera.
I'm also hoping they add their tilt screen (like on the X-T3) so we can shoot at hip or ground level without having to fudge it or get on our knees or belly. I would be thrilled if they added that. Hopefully if they had to make the body a little bit larger for proper WR seals, they were able to find space for that screen too. Fingers crossed.
marsguy wrote:
WR has to be there. They screwed the pooch if they didn't add it. A lot of people in the online communities I visit were clamoring for it, but I'm under no impression that these people make up any semblance of a majority of X100 users or potential users. Still, Fuji can position it as the "anywhere, any time, any conditions" camera. It's already the "anywhere, anytime" camera. They just need to give some assurance that a little rain or splash from a wave isn't going to ruin your camera.
I'm also hoping they add their tilt screen (like on the X-T3) so we can shoot at hip or ground level without having to fudge it or get on our knees or belly. I would be thrilled if they added that. Hopefully if they had to make the body a little bit larger for proper WR seals, they were able to find space for that screen too. Fingers crossed....Show more →
I'm not a fan of articulated screen nor 99% of the images from people "shooting from the hip". The low investment in the scene IMHO is often reflected in the image. I really like, however, your "anytime, anywhere" thoughts. My reach goals would be really nice manual focusing. I do wonder if they are considering putting whatever XT4 sensor there is in the X100V, that would at least explain some of the pricing.
AndrewNYC wrote:
I'm not a fan of articulated screen nor 99% of the images from people "shooting from the hip". The low investment in the scene IMHO is often reflected in the image. I really like, however, your "anytime, anywhere" thoughts. My reach goals would be really nice manual focusing. I do wonder if they are considering putting whatever XT4 sensor there is in the X100V, that would at least explain some of the pricing.
I don't shoot street from the hip though I know a lot of people are referring to that when they say "shoot from the hip". I'm more talking about getting a cool perspective of a landscape or scene by getting the camera lower to the ground, which either requires crouching, sitting, or laying on the ground. With a tilt screen, I can get ground-level shots just by crouching, and hip-level shots by standing.
While I like things like articulating screens for many kinds of photography, I would not want one on the X100v. As I wrote earlier, the DNA of this camera is that of a simple, lightweight, manually-controllable, viewfinder-style camera. As such I feel that things like articulating screens and so forth are better left for cameras whose virtues point more toward flexibility and adaptability.
BTW, the last thing I'd want to see on the X100v is that bizarre XPro3 fake-film-box-holder rear screen! But don't worry, word on the street is that it will not be on the X100v. (My bet is that it won't be on an XPro4 either, if there ever is one.)
No need to ruin the form factor of the camera with an articulating screen. Just connect it to your app and use that to shoot from other positions. To me the more important thing for street photography is changing the lens so that you can set the zone focus, instead of the fly by wire who knows where it’s focused now.
I love my T , And you can tell by looking at it that it goes everywhere with me.
If it doesn’t come out with a manual focus option lines like the like a Q series, I think I will pass and bank the 1500 bucks towards a like a Leica Monochrom M.
Basically. Price rumors, historically, have a terrible track record. Can also be affected by short term events in the market among competing brands or even tariffs.
Chris_C wrote:
So rumors about features are to be so trusted as to valid the return of an X-T3....but rumors about price are to be ignored?
RoamingScott wrote:
Basically. Price rumors, historically, have a terrible track record. Can also be affected by short term events in the market among competing brands or even tariffs.
We'll have to agree to disagree. The same source you are accepting on the one hand you are rejecting on the other...and the only two times I can remember Patrick offering price rumors...they were pretty much on target.
Out of curiosity...what is your price estimate for the X-T4?
I don’t know and I don’t particularly care. It will be whatever it will be. Somewhere between the X-T3 (which came in surprisingly low) and the A73.
Chris_C wrote:
We'll have to agree to disagree. The same source you are accepting on the one hand you are rejecting on the other...and the only two times I can remember Patrick offering price rumors...they were pretty much on target.
Out of curiosity...what is your price estimate for the X-T4?
It would be nice if Fujifilm would release a monochrome sensor version of an X100 or X-Pro series camera... The only choices out there are crazy priced and they could make it more affordable....
M_Wales wrote:
It would be nice if Fujifilm would release a monochrome sensor version of an X100 or X-Pro series camera... The only choices out there are crazy priced and they could make it more affordable....
It would be really interesting, especially since I already have a X100T for color work. It would really be interesting to see how much you gain in low light compared to pics that are converted.
The variant I'd like to see is one with a vertical sensor and a 56mm APD lens- a portrait optimized pocket camera. Pretty niche. Either that or a really wide sensor to replicate more the 6x9, 6x12 MF cameras that FUJI used to make.
M_Wales wrote:
It would be nice if Fujifilm would release a monochrome sensor version of an X100 or X-Pro series camera... The only choices out there are crazy priced and they could make it more affordable....
I posted about this recently, but I want to share the response again. Basically, I think that the idea of a monochrome sensor is a lot more interesting than the reality, and in fact a color sensor is, in my view, better for monochrome digital photography.
I shot BW for a long time before I ever shot color — yeah, I started that long ago. Back in the day, full control over our black and white images involve not long post processing decisions (how to develop the film, how to make the prints, contrast and surface of paper, dodging and burning) but also some committed decisions at the time of exposure. One that we hardly ever deal with today was using various types of colored filters to alter the tonal relationships on our BW film. At a minimum we likely carried red and yellow filters, and adding orange and green wasn't unusual — in addition to the CP, etc.
I don't want to go back to that. And by capturing full color image data with a digital camera I now don't have to (except for CP and ND filtering, perhaps) since I can apply those filtering operations on my file in post. This has all kinds of huge advantages. To list a few... While we typically had one density of a color filter back then, today I can apply any density of any filter color in post. I can also selectively apply it to only portions of the image, or I can even apply different filters to different areas of the image. For example, I could apply a green filter to lighten foliage while applying a red filter elsewhere in the image to darken sky.
It is objectively true that a monochrome sensor (which devotes all of the photo sites to recording pure luminance with not sensor-level filtering) could have slightly more sharpness or potentially more gradations for luminosity. But in really, our color sensors provide that to a great degree, and we can produce truly excellent monochromatic prints from the data we get from color sensors.
So, while I am a fan of black and white photography... I'm not really a fan of monochromatic sensors. It turns out that they make black and white photography more complex, provide little real advantage, and eliminate the possibility of using many more sophisticated types of post-processing.
I think a flip out screen would be great. Back when I shot mainly on a Rolleiflex 3.5E twin lens reflex and developed/printed all my own stuff, I learned to love composing my shots waist level. It feels kind of weird holding a camera up to my face, all the more so since I wear glasses.
martini_shooter wrote:
I think a flip out screen would be great. Back when I shot mainly on a Rolleiflex 3.5E twin lens reflex and developed/printed all my own stuff, I learned to love composing my shots waist level. It feels kind of weird holding a camera up to my face, all the more so since I wear glasses.
Normal flip up screen would improve usability. I think it can be done without giving up X100F form factor - take a look at what Sony is doing in RX100 series.
I know many Fuji shooter disagree, but to me the hybrid viewfinder is a gimmick. Useless retro-spec feature. I use evf in my X100 all the time, and see other doing the same. Why not admit this and honestly go all evf?
Otherwise it is important to keep in X100 tradition while improving speed and responsiveness of the camera.
tuomkok wrote:
Normal flip up screen would improve usability. I think it can be done without giving up X100F form factor - take a look at what Sony is doing in RX100 series.
I know many Fuji shooter disagree, but to me the hybrid viewfinder is a gimmick. Useless retro-spec feature. I use evf in my X100 all the time, and see other doing the same. Why not admit this and honestly go all evf?
Otherwise it is important to keep in X100 tradition while improving speed and responsiveness of the camera.
You have zero understanding on why people like rangefinder viewfinders.
