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p.5 #1 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


mcbroomf wrote:
Yes, street it's a great lens I think. It may not do too well in the Bronco test though


I’m really not expecting it will



Mar 06, 2019 at 12:59 PM
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p.5 #2 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


First off, my sample is NOT like that of Mike. There was something really off with his.

I managed to get stars with a torchlight (excuse the messy working table). It is raining and gloomy and I could not find my earlier snaps.

f/16 on a stock A7R (handheld snap 1/10s). It is a 13 bladed aperture lens as I posted earlier.

Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:01 PM
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p.5 #3 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


This was a hand-held infinity snap (f/4) on a stock A7R. No sharpening applied in the post.


Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:05 PM
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p.5 #4 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Very nice Vivek ... much better than the copy I had I think ...


Mar 06, 2019 at 01:08 PM
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p.5 #5 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


genji wrote:
“TAP should work until 700g without problems. Therefor I guess the problem is the usage after one year.” The 700g maximum that Techart specifies is wildly optimistic. I strongly believe that weight contributes far more than usage to inducing the wobble and therefore don’t use lenses weighing more than 350g with the TAP.


Yeah sorry can I call BS on that ? As with the old Pentax x1.7 AFA you may need to make a minor MF adjustment until you get ball park with longer FL or heavier lenses ..... after that it nails focus just fine (works beautifully with my all metal Nikon 105/2.5 AiS and 435g). Just don't expect to be able to use it from 1m to infinity without giving it a helping hand.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:10 PM
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p.5 #6 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Thanks Mike. That is the reason why I still have not returned for an exchange sample without the ring flare.
mcbroomf wrote:
Very nice Vivek ... much better than the copy I had I think ...




Mar 06, 2019 at 01:10 PM
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p.5 #7 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Mathieu18 wrote:
What are the packages?


I didn't check that particular listing but it's a typical selling strategy in China to have :
a) just the item itself
Package b) if it's a lens then cleaning materials & filters perhaps
Package c) and so on .... sometimes with 9 or 10 items.

They always throw in freebies too ! I've had a table top tripod with one item I bought and a clip on powerful little light etc. etc. all thrown in as nice little surprises.




Mar 06, 2019 at 01:16 PM
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p.5 #8 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


BastianK wrote:
My gf who lives in HK ordered for me on TaoBao (chinese ebay/amazon).
There are many stores that have it listed and all for the same price, so I cannot even tell you which one it was in the end.

Sunstars look really really bad. Not only the number of blades is important but also the exact spacing.
Sony has figured that out since the GM lenses. Leica and Cosina (Zeiss/Voigtlander) can do it too.
Everyone else: only very rarely.

The optical design is similar to Loxia 21mm 2.8 or Voigtlander VM 35mm 1.7 though, just one aspheric as rear element, which is usually good
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I think I will wait until the FE Plus version becomes available at Amazon or other US stores. Thanks for your thoughts on it.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:20 PM
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p.5 #9 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Frogfish wrote:
I didn't check that particular listing but it's a typical selling strategy in China to have :
a) just the item itself
Package b) if it's a lens then cleaning materials & filters perhaps
Package c) and so on .... sometimes with 9 or 10 items.

They always throw in freebies too ! I've had a table top tripod with one item I bought and a clip on powerful little light etc. etc. all thrown in as nice little surprises.



These are the packages (true for most sellers):
Lens only
Lens + FE-adapter
Lens + hood
Lens + FE-adapter + Lens hood




Mar 06, 2019 at 01:24 PM
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p.5 #10 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Yea it sounds like to me the FE version is the adapter included. Like I said I think it’s a marketing tool.


Mar 06, 2019 at 01:27 PM
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p.5 #11 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Bastian let us know if yours comes with the adapter when you receive it.


Mar 06, 2019 at 01:31 PM
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p.5 #12 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


I found their hood not only useless but dangerous!

It scratches the body of the lens while mounting/dismounting!

Highly recommend that it is avoided!



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:34 PM
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p.5 #13 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Yea I have some 52mm screw in hoods or some filter rings to use. I have 3 big containers of metal screw in hoods, filters , step up , step down. Hell I could open a store


Mar 06, 2019 at 01:36 PM
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p.5 #14 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


GMPhotography wrote:
Yea it sounds like to me the FE version is the adapter included. Like I said I think it’s a marketing tool.

As I already told people here several times FEplus does not mean that only the adapter is included.
Everyone who can speak mandarin can read their FAQ and confirm this.

You can also see it in Fred's screenshot:

Second option is whether you want Leica optimized or Sony optimized (FE plus).
Third option is those "packages" (see my post before).



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:38 PM
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p.5 #15 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


I can’t speak or read Mandarin. So have no idea what it’s saying.

Color classification. That’s not saying it’s optimized for Sony or Leica. Are they talking color of the mount or something. I get the packages now but I certainly don’t understand the color classification.

What do the FAQ say




Mar 06, 2019 at 01:48 PM
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p.5 #16 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


GMPhotography wrote:
I can’t speak or read Mandarin. So have no idea what it’s saying.

Color classification. That’s not saying it’s optimized for Sony or Leica. Are they talking color of the mount or something. I get the packages now but I certainly don’t understand the color classification.

What do the FAQ say


"Color classification" is probably not the correct translation to English.

It looks like they just started selling the FE Plus version optimized for the Sony sensor stack. That could be the reason it's not widely available yet. I'm not 100% certain of anything as this company is not big on communication.

Hopefully Bastian gets a well-centered copy of the FE Plus so we can have a better idea of how it performs.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:51 PM
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p.5 #17 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


BastianK wrote:
As I already told people here several times FEplus does not mean that only the adapter is included.
Everyone who can speak mandarin can read their FAQ and confirm this.

You can also see it in Fred's screenshot:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/70/1782870.png
Second option is whether you want Leica optimized or Sony optimized (FE plus).
Third option is those "packages" (see my post before).


Not sure where you posted that info as it’s not on this thread . Also you state it’s optimized for Sony . Is that your guess or does it actually say that on their site.

Not trying to give you a hard time but I just spent 500 bucks and I feel like I got screwed. I can still cancel my order that’s what I’m trying to figure out.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:54 PM
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p.5 #18 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Fred Miranda wrote:
"Color classification" is probably not the correct translation to English.

It looks like they just started selling the FE Plus version optimized for the Sony sensor stack. That could be the reason it's not widely available yet. I'm not 100% certain of anything as this company is not big on communication.


Yea it kinda sucks.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:55 PM
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p.5 #19 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-03-06_195434.jpg


First question: FE plus and Leica version, what is the difference?
First anwer: They both have M-mount, you still need an adapter to use the FE version.

Second question: So what is the difference between those two then?
Second answer: Sony and Leica sensors are different, if the lens is not optimized for the sensor of your camera
image quality will be degraded, especially in the corners.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:57 PM
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p.5 #20 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Guy, BastianK posted (previous page) a picture of the bayonet at my request. It shows (poor resolution) “FEPlus” engraved on the bayonet.

On the communication front, yes, it could be improved. I find them OK deal with though. One needs to be a little bit patient.



Mar 06, 2019 at 01:58 PM
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