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p.3 #1 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Fred Miranda wrote:
If it makes you feel better, I will grab one too.


Yes


I looked at there site and can’t find that info at all.



Mar 05, 2019 at 11:10 PM
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p.3 #2 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Here is there website on the 28mm. I don’t see anything about Sony except using a TechArt


http://m.7artisans.com/en/h-pd-39-306.html



Mar 05, 2019 at 11:20 PM
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p.3 #3 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


There eBay store

https://www.ebay.com/itm/7artisans-28mm-F1-4-Large-Aperture-Lens-For-Leica-M-M-M240-M3-M5-M6-M7-M8-M9-M9P/173655852449?hash=item286eb205a1:g:qpIAAOSwJ~5b96ov



Mar 05, 2019 at 11:25 PM
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p.3 #4 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Fred Miranda wrote:
How do we know which one we are buying? It is marked on the lens? Seem a bit confusing.

Luckily my gf speaks chinese.
Sales said there is a mark on the bayonet to differentiate between M and FE version,
so there should be some optical adjustment for the thick Sony filter stack.

So I am getting this FEplus version.



Mar 06, 2019 at 04:38 AM
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p.3 #5 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


This is a standard order form for China (similar to those on Alibaba or Taobao). Once you tap on your selection it will have a red ring around it. Two taps required here 1. M or FE and 2. The package you want.

Fred Miranda wrote:
How do we know which one we are buying? It is marked on the lens? Seem a bit confusing.




Mar 06, 2019 at 05:07 AM
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p.3 #6 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


WTF it’s nowhere on their Amazon or EBay store


Mar 06, 2019 at 05:23 AM
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p.3 #7 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


@Bastian: really nice. Thanks for that info. Really interesting, since you find that version nowhere. I am looking forward to your review.

I own the M-Version (the one without flare) I use it on my Sony a7r3 with TAP (wobbling startet; maybe because of the weight or because I used it intensivley during the last year). Weight is ~510g together with the lens hood (original one from 7artisans). TAP should work until 700g without problems. Therefor I guess the problem is the usage after one year.

I have some photos of the combo here in my dropbox. All other photos are taken wide open. This lens has some character. Min autofocus! distance with tap is 20cm!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5k2b0t6kd5ycs93/AABWQqAtXnnQI4wE8LdBGLJza?dl=0


One more info: those images are OOC. Color profile: standard. Auto white balance. Just sent via Playmemories app to my mobile and uploaded to dropbox.

Edited on Mar 07, 2019 at 12:51 AM · View previous versions



Mar 06, 2019 at 05:56 AM
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p.3 #8 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


According to 7A, I have the Leica M version. Surprising that it does so well on a stock Sony cam!


Mar 06, 2019 at 06:22 AM
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p.3 #9 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


GMPhotography wrote:
WTF it’s nowhere on their Amazon or EBay store


I don’t think the info is on any of their English language sites yet (if ever)
These producers are primarily concerned with the domestic market which is huge, and where the price differenc between a domestic product and a Japanese or a German one is a massive factor. The international market for these goods is still a bit of an afterthought....



Mar 06, 2019 at 06:30 AM
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p.3 #10 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


I’m not going to worry about it. Just weird


Mar 06, 2019 at 07:09 AM
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p.3 #11 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


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@Bastian@: really nice. Thanks for that info. Really interesting, since you find that version nowhere. I am looking forward to your review.

I own the M-Version (the one without flare) I use it on my Sony a7r3 with TAP (wobbling startet; maybe because of the weight or because I used it intensivley during the last year). Weight is ~510g together with the lens hood (original one from 7artisans). TAP should work until 700g without problems. Therefor I guess the problem is the usage after one year.

I have some photos of the combo here in my dropbox. All other photos are
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“TAP should work until 700g without problems. Therefor I guess the problem is the usage after one year.” The 700g maximum that Techart specifies is wildly optimistic. I strongly believe that weight contributes far more than usage to inducing the wobble and therefore don’t use lenses weighing more than 350g with the TAP.



Mar 06, 2019 at 07:13 AM
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p.3 #12 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


genji wrote:
“TAP should work until 700g without problems. Therefor I guess the problem is the usage after one year.” The 700g maximum that Techart specifies is wildly optimistic. I strongly believe that weight contributes far more than usage to inducing the wobble and therefore don’t use lenses weighing more than 350g with the TAP.


That is a fairly low weight that you are suggesting. I do not own the TAP myself, but even my Leica M WATE with the 67mm filter adapter, and B+W UV (without front 67mm replacement cap) weighs 12oz (340g) and Leica's spec weight for the WATE is 11.8 oz (335g).

Rich



Mar 06, 2019 at 07:28 AM
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p.3 #13 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


I had the (pre ordered) TAP briefly before selling it off. I agree with Jonathon that you can not hang heavy lenses on it and expect it to survive for long.

Another important aspect that most over look about the TAP is that it has a chip from a zoom and that will impact the lens’ performance compared to a dumb adapter.



Mar 06, 2019 at 07:36 AM
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p.3 #14 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


You should not.


GMPhotography wrote:
I’m not going to worry about it. Just weird





Mar 06, 2019 at 07:37 AM
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p.3 #15 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


You mean info transfered for Sony inbody stabilization? And FL information (adjusted per smartphone or adapter itself).
Or is there something else that the adapter takes care of?

realVivek wrote:
Another important aspect that most over look about the TAP is that it has a chip from a zoom and that will impact the lens’ performance compared to a dumb adapter.





Mar 06, 2019 at 08:48 AM
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p.3 #16 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


I would be weary of geometric corrections and shading correction in particular, even when these are turned off in the camera settings.


Mar 06, 2019 at 08:53 AM
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p.3 #17 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


If it's true and there are two versions of this lens (optimized for E or M mount), it's definitely something to worry about even if both versions only fit the M-mount.
At 28mm, lenses designed for the M-mount usually show induced field curvature on the Sony.



Mar 06, 2019 at 10:13 AM
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p.3 #18 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


smodjo wrote:
@Bastian@: really nice. Thanks for that info. Really interesting, since you find that version nowhere. I am looking forward to your review.

I own the M-Version (the one without flare) I use it on my Sony a7r3 with TAP (wobbling startet; maybe because of the weight or because I used it intensivley during the last year). Weight is ~510g together with the lens hood (original one from 7artisans). TAP should work until 700g without problems. Therefor I guess the problem is the usage after one year.

I have some photos of the combo here in my dropbox. All other photos are
...Show more
That link is not working



Mar 06, 2019 at 10:17 AM
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p.3 #19 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


Fred, That is not a worry in case of my sample (as well that of a few others whogot it early on).

Fwiw, i think it (M version) is better put together than the “FEplus” version.

Compare the 35/2 lens from 7A in M mount and E mount.



Mar 06, 2019 at 10:19 AM
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p.3 #20 · 7Artisians 28mm 1.4 tests coming


realVivek wrote:
That is not a worry in case of my sample (as well that of a few others whogot it early on).

Fwiw, i think it (M version) is better put together than the “FEplus” version.

Compare the 35/2 lens from 7A in M mount and E mount.

1. Did you already compare the 28 1.4 for Leica and for Sony side by side?
2. Both are M-mount. Both are mechanically the same.
Only difference is optics and a mark on the bayonet.



Mar 06, 2019 at 10:22 AM
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